Gatting Some Bad BD-R Burns-Verify Not Activated?

[burni]

I am getting some BD-R backup movie copies where the video freezes and the audio continues on just fine, even though the BDRebuilder log says that the burn was successful.

 

As far as I can tell the ImgBurn Verify process after Write is not activated. How do I activate the full Verify process so I know if I have a bad burn?

 

Is there a way to come back and run a Verify routine after the disc is ejected and ImgBurn is exited? I'm concerned that I may have a large batch of bad backups now and I would like to check (Verify) all my backups.

 

Thank you!

Edited November 27, 2013 by burni

[LIGHTNING UK!]

There's a "verify" checkbox right under where you select the drive you're burning to.

 

As for verifying at a later date.... Go into Verify mode when you first open the program.

[burni]

If the disc passes the Verify test but still freezes what should I be looking for as the source of the problem?

 

Thank you!

[burni]

There's a "verify" checkbox right under where you select the drive you're burning to.

 

As for verifying at a later date.... Go into Verify mode when you first open the program.

 

I ran the Verify process on one of my freezing discs, upon completion I got a "Operation Successfully completed!" message. Log file is below.

 

I tried this freezing disc in PS3 and Oppo83 players and it froze in the exact same spot on both players, these players are better than average players. 

 

I notice that most of my current burns, when I eyeball the discs, are visually only using about half of the available disc space now. Earlier burned discs were using most of the visually available space?

 

Here are the specs on my LG WH12LS30 BD burner: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=toolbar-instant&hl=en&ion=1&qscrl=1&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS457US458#hl=en&q=lg+wh12ls30&qscrl=1

 

I am using ImgBurn linked to BD-Rebuilder.

 

I think my PC may be keeping the original burn file log but I don't know where to find it?

 

What should I be doing or looking for to solve the problem now?

 

Thank you!

 

Verify Log File:

 

I 08:03:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 08:03:48 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS30 1.01-C0 (D:) (ATA)

I 08:03:48 Found 1 BD-RE!

I 08:08:23 Operation Started!

I 08:08:23 Source Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS30 1.01 (D:) (ATA)

I 08:08:23 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000)

I 08:08:23 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 4.8x

I 08:08:23 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x

I 08:08:23 Source Media Sectors: 7,427,296

I 08:08:23 Source Media Size: 15,211,102,208 bytes

I 08:08:23 Verify Against Image File: No

I 08:08:23 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 08:08:24 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 4.8x

I 08:08:25 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 12219391)

I 08:08:25 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 12219391)

I 08:35:15 Exporting Graph Data...

I 08:35:15 Graph Data File: C:\Users\tom\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH12LS30_1.01_WEDNESDAY-NOVEMBER-27-2013_8-08_AM_VERBAT-IMe-000.ibg

I 08:35:15 Export Successfully Completed!

I 08:35:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:26:50

I 08:35:15 Average Verify Rate: 15,188 KiB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 21,522 KiB/s (4.9x)

 

Edited November 27, 2013 by burni

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Being a good player and being able to read burnt discs are two different things. It's impossible to say if you're getting decent quality burns from your LG drive without testing them in a drive that can scan BD media (i.e. a LiteOn one). If the disc plays ok on your PC, I'd assume there's nothing (much, anyway) wrong with the files you're burning and it must just be the players are having trouble reading the disc.

 

You can access saved logs via the help menu but BD Rebuilder may be saving them elsewhere and therefore the program wouldn't also be writing to its usual log.

 

The size of what you're burning must be something to do with BD Rebuilder or the source files you're working from. You're right though, you're only using just over half of the disc.

[burni]

Being a good player and being able to read burnt discs are two different things. It's impossible to say if you're getting decent quality burns from your LG drive without testing them in a drive that can scan BD media (i.e. a LiteOn one). If the disc plays ok on your PC, I'd assume there's nothing (much, anyway) wrong with the files you're burning and it must just be the players are having trouble reading the disc.

 

You can access saved logs via the help menu but BD Rebuilder may be saving them elsewhere and therefore the program wouldn't also be writing to its usual log.

 

The size of what you're burning must be something to do with BD Rebuilder or the source files you're working from. You're right though, you're only using just over half of the disc.

 

The BD backup movie disc I'm using to trouble shoot with also freezes up in my PC at the exact same spot as it does in my two stand alone players. 

 

I found this log file for the freezing disc in question:

 

**********************************

I 11:35:19 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!

I 11:35:19 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 11:35:19 Total Physical Memory: 16,692,472 KiB  -  Available: 13,581,456 KiB

W 11:35:19 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 11:35:19 Initialising SPTI...

I 11:35:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 11:35:19 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS30 1.01-C0 (D:) (ATA)

I 11:35:19 Found 1 BD-RE!

I 11:35:19 Operation Started!

I 11:35:19 Building Image Tree...

I 11:35:20 Calculating Totals...

I 11:35:20 Preparing Image...

I 11:35:20 Contents: 9 Files, 15 Folders

I 11:35:20 Content Type: BD Video

I 11:35:20 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 11:35:20 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 11:35:20 Volume Label: DECEPTION

I 11:35:20 Size: 15,210,089,952 bytes

I 11:35:20 Sectors: 7,426,807

I 11:35:20 Image Size: 15,211,102,208 bytes

I 11:35:20 Image Sectors: 7,427,296

I 11:35:20 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 11:35:20 Operation Started!

I 11:35:20 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 11:35:20 Source File Sectors: 7,427,296 (MODE1/2048)

I 11:35:20 Source File Size: 15,211,102,208 bytes

I 11:35:20 Source File Volume Identifier: DECEPTION

I 11:35:20 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 437A5C6900715477

I 11:35:20 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0

I 11:35:20 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 11:35:20 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 11:35:20 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS30 1.01 (D:) (ATA)

I 11:35:20 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000)

I 11:35:20 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x

I 11:35:20 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392

I 11:35:20 Write Mode: BD

I 11:35:20 Write Type: DAO

I 11:35:20 Write Speed: MAX

I 11:35:20 Hardware Defect Management Active: No

I 11:35:20 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes

I 11:35:20 Link Size: Auto

I 11:35:20 Lock Volume: Yes

I 11:35:20 Test Mode: No

I 11:35:20 OPC: No

I 11:35:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 11:35:20 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 53,859 KB/s (12x)

I 11:36:51 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)

I 11:36:51 Writing LeadIn...

I 11:36:52 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 7427295)

I 11:36:52 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 7427295)

I 11:44:32 Synchronising Cache...

I 11:44:33 Closing Track...

I 11:44:35 Finalising Disc...

I 11:44:46 Exporting Graph Data...

I 11:44:46 Graph Data File: C:\Users\tom\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH12LS30_1.01_TUESDAY-NOVEMBER-26-2013_11-35_AM_VERBAT-IMe-000_MAX.ibg

I 11:44:46 Export Successfully Completed!

I 11:44:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:25

I 11:44:46 Average Write Rate: 32,292 KiB/s (7.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 43,182 KiB/s (9.8x)

I 11:44:46 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 11:44:56 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 11:45:11 Device Ready!

I 11:45:12 Operation Started!

I 11:45:12 Source Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS30 1.01 (D:) (ATA)

I 11:45:12 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000)

I 11:45:12 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 4.8x

I 11:45:12 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x

I 11:45:12 Source Media Sectors: 7,427,296

I 11:45:12 Source Media Size: 15,211,102,208 bytes

I 11:45:12 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 11:45:12 Image File Sectors: 7,427,296 (MODE1/2048)

I 11:45:12 Image File Size: 15,211,102,208 bytes

I 11:45:12 Image File Volume Identifier: DECEPTION

I 11:45:12 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 437A5C6900715477

I 11:45:12 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0

I 11:45:12 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 11:45:12 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 11:45:12 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 11:45:13 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 4.8x

I 11:45:13 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 7427295)

I 11:45:13 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 7427295)

I 12:03:59 Exporting Graph Data...

I 12:03:59 Graph Data File: C:\Users\tom\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH12LS30_1.01_TUESDAY-NOVEMBER-26-2013_11-35_AM_VERBAT-IMe-000_MAX.ibg

I 12:03:59 Export Successfully Completed!

I 12:03:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:41

I 12:03:59 Average Verify Rate: 13,274 KiB/s (3.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,690 KiB/s (4.0x)

I 12:03:59 Close Request Acknowledged

I 12:03:59 Closing Down...

I 12:03:59 Shutting down SPTI...

I 12:03:59 ImgBur

 

Does this help diagnose my problem?

 

Thank you!

Edited November 27, 2013 by burni

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Rather than burning to disc, make an ISO of the same source files and then mount it in a virtual drive program.

 

Have your playback software play from the virtual drive. If it still freezes, you'll know the source files are to blame.

[burni]

Just so I know, would running the Verify routine while a disc is being burned catch the disc freeze problem?

 

Thank you!

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Only if the freeze is caused by a disc that's so unreadable it causes the drive to error out whilst trying to read (verify) every sector on it.

[burni]

In my latest backup burn attempt AnyDVD HD ripped to HDD ok, BD-Rebuilder processed ok and passed the file to ImgBurn which failed at 57% with massive sector errors. I tried 3 different blank discs from a batch used successfully prior, all 3 failed to complete. I had two successful burns on other movies just prior to this attempt.
 
Any ideas for a fix would be most appreciated.

Edited December 6, 2013 by burni

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Post the log(s) please.

[burni]

Having trouble posting zipped log file, I'm working on it.

Edited December 6, 2013 by burni

[burni]

Attached is the latest log file.

 

Thank you!

imgbrn log 12613.zip

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Sorry, I've no idea what's going on there.

 

It's much easier to troubleshoot these things if you make an image rather than burning files on the fly.

 

I don't know how it's possible to have so many miscompares unless the files on the hdd have changed between burning / verification, you've got serious corruption in memory/on the sata bus, or something is modifying the data read from the drive on the fly (AnyDVD type program).

[burni]

Sorry, I've no idea what's going on there.

 

It's much easier to troubleshoot these things if you make an image rather than burning files on the fly.

 

I don't know how it's possible to have so many miscompares unless the files on the hdd have changed between burning / verification, you've got serious corruption in memory/on the sata bus, or something is modifying the data read from the drive on the fly (AnyDVD type program).

 

My PC seems to be otherwise running fine.

 

I don't have a clue regarding how to make an image and what to do with it but will try to figure that out?

 

Thank you!

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Rather than clicking the 'write files/folders to disc' button on the initial screen, use the 'create image file from files/folders' one.

 

Or just change the 'Output' to 'Image File' in the menu at the top.

[burni]

Rather than clicking the 'write files/folders to disc' button on the initial screen, use the 'create image file from files/folders' one.

 

Or just change the 'Output' to 'Image File' in the menu at the top.

 

I'm not understanding what to do?

 

I put the original BD movie disc in the drive, open ImgBurn, select Create Image File From Files/Folders; I don't see the disc recognized or see what I should do next?

 

In the Source box there is a list of my original movies that have been burned but when I select one I get a "File or Folder does not exist" message.

 

Thank you!

Edited December 7, 2013 by burni

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I guess the ImgBurn step is normally done for you by a 3rd party program?

 

There's a BD Video guide in the Guides forum.

[burni]

I guess the ImgBurn step is normally done for you by a 3rd party program?

 

There's a BD Video guide in the Guides forum.

 

Can I use anyDVD HD for this step, if so do I rip to HDD and then go to ImgBurn create image file from files/folders' or do I bring the file to ImgBurn after the BD-Rebuilder process?

 

Thank you!

Edited December 7, 2013 by burni