are these 2 formats(bin and img) suitable for making images for all kinds of discs?

hn4n · December 3, 2013

as i have heard in the past that iso format is not suitable for making images for all kinds of discs,for example,it's not suitable to make a image of a audio cd with iso format.how about the other 2 formats avaliable with imgburn(bin and img)?are these 2 formats(bin and img) suitable for making images for all kinds of discs?

thank u,

Edited December 3, 2013 by hn4n

**LIGHTNING UK!** · December 3, 2013

You'd use BIN+CUE for CD and ISO for every other format.

IMG isn't really a format, it's just a file extension. In reality, it's probably just an ISO (2048 bytes per sector) or BIN file (2352 bytes per sector).

hn4n · December 3, 2013

do u mean i can not make a image of a dvd with bin+cue format??????

hn4n · December 3, 2013

but i have just successfully made a image of dvd disc with bin+cue format.

hn4n · December 3, 2013

and i have also successfully made a image of a dvd disc with img format.

hn4n · December 3, 2013

can u explain that in more details?

thank u,

**LIGHTNING UK!** · December 3, 2013

Like I said, it's just a file extension.

You could name the file 'image.toliet' if you so wish.

The point being, DVDs only have 2048 bytes per sector. That's all it's ever going to end up as in an image file... no matter which file extension you give it.

For CDs, you can tell a drive to return 2352 bytes per sector or to return 2048 bytes per sector (assuming you're reading a track that supports it - i.e. Mode 1 or Mode 2/Form 1).

Single session/track Mode 1 CDs are fine to be saved as 2048 bytes per sector ISO images. For all other CDs, you should use the BIN+CUE format. The program does this stuff automatically so just let it do its job and don't worry about it.

hn4n · December 3, 2013

first of all, i have to appologize for starting so many new topics and acting like trying to take over the entire first page of the forum for advertising.but i do have a lot of questions for u ,as i want to make advertisements for your product to the people around me.i just feel confused about which file type should i choose to keep the image file with when i trying to make a image of a disc with imgburn.there are 4 choices listed :"bin files","img files","iso files" and "all files".and as i have heard the choice "iso file" is not suitable for all kinds of discs.how about the other 3 kinds of choices,are they all suitable for making images for all kinds of discs?

thank u,

**LIGHTNING UK!** · December 3, 2013

Like I said, ImgBurn defaults to picking the right file type for the disc you've inserted when it automatically generates the destination file name.

Just let it do its thing.

If you really must mess around with it, use BIN for CDs and ISO for everything else. You can't really go wrong with that.

'All Files' just makes the box display all file types... not just those with the selected file extension (be it .bin, .img, .iso etc). It isn't an actual file type itself.

hn4n · December 4, 2013

Like I said, ImgBurn defaults to picking the right file type for the disc you've inserted when it automatically generates the destination file name.

Just let it do its thing.

If you really must mess around with it, use BIN for CDs and ISO for everything else. You can't really go wrong with that.

'All Files' just makes the box display all file types... not just those with the selected file extension (be it .bin, .img, .iso etc). It isn't an actual file type itself.

do u mean the "img files" choice is of no use at all???u taught me that img file is just a file extension not really a format.but as i have heard before the img format is created by clonecd while nrg format is created by nero.futhermore,u said that i could not really go wroung with these file types.well,according to my using experience,imgburn only warns me from making image of a audio cd with iso format,but never stops me from making a image of a dvd disc with bin+cue format,also never stops me from making a image of a disc with img format.why?

here is the log about how i creat a image of a dvd disc with bin+cue format successfully:

I 16:50:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!

I 16:50:39 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 16:50:39 Total Physical Memory: 8,125,688 KiB - Available: 5,108,820 KiB

W 16:50:39 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.

I 16:50:39 Initialising SPTI...

I 16:50:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 16:50:40 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS524 B AL28 (G:) (ATA)

I 16:50:40 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 16:51:03 Operation Started!

I 16:51:03 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHAS524 B AL28 (G:) (ATA)

I 16:51:03 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3)

I 16:51:03 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 16:51:03 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 16:51:03 Source Media Sectors: 28,528 (Track Path: PTP)

I 16:51:03 Source Media Size: 58,425,344 bytes

I 16:51:03 Source Media Volume Identifier: Downloads

I 16:51:03 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: 4383BF3600006F6D

I 16:51:03 Source Media Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 16:51:03 Source Media Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 16:51:03 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 16:51:03 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x

I 16:51:03 Destination File: F:\1\dfg.bin

I 16:51:03 Destination Free Space: 273,118,912,512 Bytes (266,717,688.00 KiB) (260,466.49 MiB) (254.36 GiB)

I 16:51:03 Destination File System: NTFS

I 16:51:03 File Splitting: Auto

I 16:51:04 Read Speed - Effective: 6.4x - 16x

I 16:51:05 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 28527)

I 16:51:05 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 28527)

I 16:51:14 Exporting Graph Data...

I 16:51:14 Graph Data File: C:\Users\c\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS524_B_AL28_2013年12月4日_16-51_CMC_MAG._AM3.ibg

I 16:51:14 Export Successfully Completed!

I 16:51:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:10

I 16:51:14 Average Read Rate: 5,705 KiB/s (4.2x) - Maximum Read Rate: 9,034 KiB/s (6.7x)

**LIGHTNING UK!** · December 4, 2013

img and bin are basically the same thing.

They typically contain CD 2352 byte sectors and are just raw dumps of the disc. It's the CUE / CCD files that go along with them that make them work for certain programs.

ISO is / should be reserved for 2048 byte sectors - it's *far* more common and better suited to basic data CDs and all DVD/HD DVD/BD discs.

I never said the program would stop you from giving your DVD image file the .bin extension, what you name your file is down to you. It only tries to stop you when (as you said), you try and save a multi session / track CD (i.e. an Audio CD) with the .ISO file extension... because that'll never work on its own, you *need* a CUE/CCD file to go with it.

hn4n · December 4, 2013

do u mean it would also work fine for me to give my dvd image file the bin.extention,since imgburn software never stop me from doing that?????if so,why u told me in the past that i could not really go wroung with that?

Like I said, ImgBurn defaults to picking the right file type for the disc you've inserted when it automatically generates the destination file name.

Just let it do its thing.

If you really must mess around with it, use BIN for CDs and ISO for everything else. You can't really go wrong with that.

**LIGHTNING UK!** · December 4, 2013

*sigh* 12 posts of me repeating myself and us not getting anywhere.

It's just a file extension. It doesn't matter if you name it image.bin or image.iso, when reading a DVD/HD DVD/BD disc you'll end up with identical files.

Why can't you just let the program pick the correct one? That's assuming the 'Default Destination' setting for 'Read' mode is left on 'Automatic'. Why must you mess around with things you don't understand?!

For CDs, the program defaults to/use .ISO when reading a single session/track disc with a Mode 1 data track. For all other CDs it'll default to/use .BIN.

For DVD/HD DVD/BD it'll default to/use .ISO.

I won't repeat that again - especially as it appears to be going in one ear and out of the other.

Take my advice or do whatever you want to do.

hn4n · December 4, 2013

well,your last post made me found out the great misunderstanding between i and u.i think the reason of the misunderstanding is my using experience of some other burning softwares,like ashampoo and nero.when i use nero to make a image of a disc,if i choose nrg/iso as the file extension,the nero would creat a image of the disc with nrg /iso format.and when i use ashampoo to make a image of a disc,if i choose bin+cue/iso as the file extension,the ashampoo would creat a image of the disc with bin+cue/iso format.however,it's not the case at imgburn.according to the defaut settings of imgburn,for multi tracks/sessions cds,no matter which file extension i choose,imgburn would creat the same image with bin+cue format even with different file extensions,and for all the other discs imgburn would creat the same image with iso format also even with different file extensions.you said that i could not really go wroung with that.it in fact means i could not go wroung with the real format of the image but only go wroung with the file extensions of the image files,right?in a word,file extension does not equal format at imgburn,while file extension equals format when i use ashampoo or nero to make a image of a disc.if so,why you show us so many different file extensions for choosing during the process of creating image file from a disc to make us misunderstand ?

thank u,

hn4n · December 6, 2013

why still nobody reply???

more explaination would make the truth more clear to more people,and therefore more people would like to choose to use the software.

hn4n · December 6, 2013

before i found this forum,i have also read a lot of articles to introduce how to use imgburn on the internet.they all say that imgburn can be used to make images for discs conveniently with all those 4 formats(iso format,bin+cue format,img format,and wav format).i guess it's because they found there are 4 choices of file extensions there when they try to make a image of a disc.i just can not understand,if imgburn can automatically choose the right file types of images for different kinds of discs,why u still provide us these 4 file etensions for choice, it's absolutely of no use at all but only confusing people?

thank u,

Edited December 6, 2013 by hn4n

hn4n · December 8, 2013

my god,still no reply????????????

**Cynthia** · December 8, 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_%28computing%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_%28file_format%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image

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