BDYodaIamnot Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Hi, I have looked thorught the FAQ, guides and topics here, but couldn't see my problem anywhere, so here goes: I have created a BD disc image of my BD-Audio, and my Maxell BD-RE burn it just fine every time, but when I try to burn the same image with the Verbatim Datalife BD-R printable, it shows these errors every single time: Please see attachments. What do I need to do to solve this issue. I am not very good at this sort of stuff, so please bear with me. Thank you in advance for your help. I really appreciate it. Here is the log: I 23:38:00 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!I 23:38:00 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)I 23:38:00 Total Physical Memory: 8,387,640 KiB - Available: 6,248,424 KiBW 23:38:00 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.I 23:38:00 Initialising SPTI...I 23:38:00 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 23:38:00 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL07 (D:) (ATA)I 23:38:00 Found 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!I 23:38:07 Operation Started!I 23:38:07 Source File: F:\ALIENADIN ISO_21.05.2015\ALIENADIN.isoI 23:38:07 Source File Sectors: 4,811,040 (MODE1/2048)I 23:38:07 Source File Size: 9,853,009,920 bytesI 23:38:07 Source File Volume Identifier: ALIENADINI 23:38:07 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 1614201DALIENADINI 23:38:07 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft IMAPI2 1.0I 23:38:07 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 23:38:07 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL07 (D:) (ATA)I 23:38:07 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA5-000)I 23:38:07 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2xI 23:38:07 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392I 23:38:07 Write Mode: BDI 23:38:07 Write Type: DAOI 23:38:07 Write Speed: MAXI 23:38:07 Hardware Defect Management Active: NoI 23:38:07 BD-R Verify Not Required: YesI 23:38:07 Link Size: AutoI 23:38:07 Lock Volume: YesI 23:38:07 Test Mode: NoI 23:38:07 OPC: NoI 23:38:07 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 23:38:07 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,991 KB/s (2x)I 23:38:24 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 23:38:24 Writing LeadIn...W 23:38:24 Failed to Write Sectors 96 - 127 - Reason: Write ErrorW 23:38:24 Retrying (1 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (2 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (3 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (4 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (5 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (6 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (7 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:24 Retrying (8 of 20)...W 23:38:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (9 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (10 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (11 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (12 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (13 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (14 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (15 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (16 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (17 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (18 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (19 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteW 23:38:25 Retrying (20 of 20)...W 23:38:25 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For WriteE 23:39:00 Failed to Write Sectors 96 - 127 - Reason: Write ErrorE 23:39:00 Next Writable Address: 0I 23:39:00 Synchronising Cache...W 23:39:01 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/3) - Write ErrorW 23:39:01 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Write ErrorE 23:39:54 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Write ErrorW 23:39:56 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.E 23:39:56 Failed to Write Image!E 23:40:00 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:01:49I 23:40:00 Average Write Rate: 0 KiB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KiB/s (0.0x)I 23:41:15 Close Request AcknowledgedI 23:41:15 Closing Down...I 23:41:15 Shutting down SPTI...I 23:41:15 ImgBurn closed!;
dbminter Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 If I had to hazard a guess, I'd blame the cheap CMC Magnetics BD-R. CMC Magnetics is the worst manufacturer of optical media out there. Their DVD has a notoriously high failure rate so I'd say their BD-R is on par. Try Verbatim BD-R. Unlike with Verbatim CD and DVD, their BD-R is good. Unlike their BD-RE, which is CMC. Have you used these BD-R before? And if so did they write okay then?
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 20, 2015 Author Posted June 20, 2015 If I had to hazard a guess, I'd blame the cheap CMC Magnetics BD-R. CMC Magnetics is the worst manufacturer of optical media out there. Their DVD has a notoriously high failure rate so I'd say their BD-R is on par. Try Verbatim BD-R. Unlike with Verbatim CD and DVD, their BD-R is good. Unlike their BD-RE, which is CMC. Have you used these BD-R before? And if so did they write okay then? Thanks for the response. As I wrote above, the BD-Rs are Verbatim Datalife BD-R printable. It's a 25 BD bundle. Could they be the problem? I don't know if I am allowed to post links to the product here.
dbminter Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Oh, I didn't seen you'd mentioned they were Verbatims in the original post. That is odd. Verbatim BD-R should not be CMC. It should be VERBATIM- something. Especially if it says DataLife plus on them. Even if you bought them in a brick and mortar store, all the Verbatim BD-R I've ever encountered, online and in a store, were never cheap CMC's. However, this is my experience in the United States, not Austria. This could mean the death sentence for Verbatim. They had gradually started moving over to CMC junk and maybe they now have completely moved to CMC junk. Which means there would be NO more good manufacturers of quality discs anymore. Anyway, I'd blame the CMC's but I can't say use Verbatim BD-R as you seemed to get CMC from Verbatim. Did you buy these in a brick and mortar store or online? Also, Austria might sell CMC under DataLife. Different countries do things different. You're sure it's DataLife and just Life series, right?
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 20, 2015 Author Posted June 20, 2015 Definitely DataLife. It says so right under Verbatim. I bought them at amazon.de, and they are the number 1 bestseller there, and it they have 4 1/2 stars. Are you sure it's the discs, and not different beahviour for BD-RE and BD-R? Do I need to change any settings? Should I try a few more of these? Come Monday, I'll buy a single BD-R, and try that to see what happens.
dbminter Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Your log says the DID on those BD-R's is CMC. CMC causes the vast majority of errors reported on this board. When people use CMC media and then switch to "real" Verbatim, their problems usually disappear. Not always, of course. You could be suffering some kind of hardware error. Or your BD drive might not like CMC if you've never tried using those BD-R's before. At this point, I'm stumped. My go to response for CMC is to switch to Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden. However, as far as I knew, Verbatim didn't use CMC for their BD-R. Just their BD-RE. Also odd is the 2x max write rate set for those BD-R's. 2x is the max write rate of Verbatim CMC BD-RE. But, the log returns you're using BD-R. So, I'm sorry, but I've reached a wall insofar as I know what to tell you.
dbminter Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Here's what's weird. Your Amazon store sells CMC BD-R's. Amazon.com sells these BD-R's http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-DataLifePlus-Single-Layer-Recordable-Printable/dp/B004477BQQ#Ask which I've purchased and they are VERBAT-IMe media. I haven't bought since early October, so they may have switched over their entire production line to CMC. I need to get some soon and, as I always do, I check the MID/DID to make sure they're still VERBAT-IMe and not CMC.
dbminter Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Are these the BD-R's you got? http://www.amazon.de/Verbatim-43811-Datalife-Inkjet-Printable/dp/B00DHS99PY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435001961&sr=8-1&keywords=verbatim+datalife+bd-r A possible explanation might be they say DataLife NOT DataLife Plus. In Austria, the DataLife series might be the name for America's Life series brand of Verbatim media, which is the cheap CMC DVD and CD media. Plus, the blue package might be indicative of CMC produced Verbatim. Their CD-R's from brick and mortar stores that are CMC's come in a similar blue packaging.
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 Thanks a lot, mate. Yes, those are the ones. Ok. I'll look for DataLife Plus then. It's realy hard to find something suitable. I have always got the same error message so far. I'll try some more later today. I am looking at these now at amazon.co.uk. Have you evr tried them before?: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002RT85RW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A234AAP9ZGWY6Z
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 Also, it's definitley a CMC BD-R, since it says so in the initial info before the burn.
dbminter Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Well, I know USA TDK BD-RE is CMC. However, TDK makes Verbatim's BD-RE DL. My guess is the only reason is because CMC doesn't make a BD-RE DL. So, it's a crap shoot if you'll get CMC BD-R from TDK or not. When TDK makes its own media, it's usually quality media. However, TDK used to make their own CD-R and I think they switched to CMC. So, TDK is like Verbatim. Both make good media when they make it themselves or in the case of Verbatim, farm out to Mitsubishi, one of the best manufacturers out there. However, both companies will also farm out to CMC, the worst, for a quick buck. Now, this is just my personal opinion, but TDK sort of burned a bridge with me by using any CMC media for its BD-RE. So, I'd be wary of trying their BD-R's. However, you won't know until you actually buy some. Like some JVC BD-RE's I got over the weekend. I knew for the price I paid they had to be CMC and they were. JVC Victor has Taiyo Yuden as one of its brands, and TY makes CD and DVD on par with "pure" Verbatim. However, TY doesn't do BD. It seems they may make BD-R under a That's label, but they appear to be Ritek. I looked for DataLife Plus on the amazon.de site before I posted and didn't find anything there.
dbminter Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 BTW, if you don't mind doing a solid service for your local online community leave reviews on the sites of the products you buy. Copy and paste the MID/DID field into the review text. This will tell others who are knowledgable whether to buy them or not. Since no one else was doing so on Amazon.com, I always leave the MID/DID for product reviews. That way, people can avoid buying CMC crap like I've done.
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 Thank you so much. I really don't know what to get now. I have just posted a review on amazon.de, warning consumers of this particular product.
BDYodaIamnot Posted June 27, 2015 Author Posted June 27, 2015 So, I bought some BD-Rs at a CD/BD manufacturing facility yesterday, and while they were quite a bit pricier. The first one worked flawlessly, so I guess it was worth it. They are printable BD-Rs as well. I have already sent the Verbatim pack back to amazon.de, as not a single on did the job out of 25!!!!!! I tried various ways, but nothing worked! Unbelievable! Don't you think?
dbminter Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Actually, with CMC's not working at all, I don't find it unbelievable.
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