Error Burning one 90GB file to 100GB Bluray Disc

[ikw3289r]

Samsung SE-506CB RSBDM Blu-ray External Drive
http://www.tsstodd.com/eng/Products/Spec/?functionvalue=view&parent_idx=4489&level_idx=4521

Verbatim M-Disc 100GB BDXL
http://store.mdisc.com/Verbatim-M-Disc-100GB-BDXL-5-pack-jewel-case_p_20.html

Hi:

 

I am burning one large file per disc for archival purposes. I have successfully burned 23GB file on 25GB M-Disc. I have been trying to burn one 90GB file on 100GB M-Disc and have only got errors.

So far, I have tried cdburnerxp (Disc 1) and ashampoo (Disc 2). Both times with errors. See below Imgburn verification log.

I'm getting ready to try Imgburn to burn 90GB on 100GB M-Disc, but at $20.00 per disc, I would like to get some advice on correct settings of Imgburn before I make the burn.

All Imgburn settings are at default.

1) What settings do I need to adjust, if any, to make a successful burn of one 90GB file onto a 100GB Bluray M-Disc? (M-Disc are not supposed to require any different settings than a typical 100GB Disc)

2) From the logs posted below, can you tell me anything that would avoid those errors using Imgburn?

3) The file on Disc 2 can copy to hard drive successfully and open correctly. Even with the error on Disc 2 can I keep that disc for archival purposes or should I re-burn the file to a new disc?

Thanks for your help

Disc 1 log burned with cdburner xp verified here with Imgburn:

I 08:22:26 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 08:22:26 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 08:22:26 Total Physical Memory: 8,334,292 KiB  -  Available: 4,082,708 KiB
I 08:22:26 Initialising SPTI...
I 08:22:26 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 08:22:26 -> Drive 1 - Info: PLDS DVD+-RW DH-16AES 3D11 (H:) (SATA)
I 08:22:32 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp BDDVDW SE-506CB TS02 (I:) (USB 2.0)
I 08:22:32 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-RE XL!
I 08:22:50 Operation Started!
I 08:22:50 Source Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp BDDVDW SE-506CB TS02 (I:) (USB)
I 08:22:50 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000)
I 08:22:50 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2.2x, 4x, 5x
I 08:22:50 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x
I 08:22:50 Source Media Sectors: 45,369,792
I 08:22:50 Source Media Size: 92,917,334,016 bytes
I 08:22:50 Verify Against Image File: No
I 08:22:50 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 08:22:51 Read Speed - Effective: 2.2x - 5x
I 08:22:51 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 45369791)
I 08:22:51 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 45369791)
W 08:55:47 Failed to Read Sectors 16003392 - 16003423 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 08:55:57 Failed to Read Sector 16003392 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:51:26 Failed to Read Sectors 16003568 - 16003599 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:51:55 Failed to Read Sectors 16006160 - 16006191 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:52:02 Failed to Read Sector 16006176 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:52:31 Failed to Read Sectors 16009168 - 16009199 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:52:44 Failed to Read Sectors 16009392 - 16009423 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:53:09 Failed to Read Sectors 16013264 - 16013295 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
W 09:53:19 Failed to Read Sector 16013280 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
E 09:54:04 Failed to Verify Sectors!
I 09:54:05 Export Successfully Completed!
E 09:54:05 Operation Failed! - Duration: 01:31:14
I 09:54:05 Average Verify Rate: 5,852 KiB/s (1.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 23,226 KiB/s (5.3x)


Disc 2 burned with Ashampoo 2015 verified here with Imgburn:

I 04:24:42 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 04:24:42 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 04:24:42 Total Physical Memory: 8,334,292 KiB  -  Available: 4,614,156 KiB
I 04:24:42 Initialising SPTI...
I 04:24:42 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 04:24:42 -> Drive 1 - Info: PLDS DVD+-RW DH-16AES 3D11 (H:) (SATA)
I 04:24:47 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp BDDVDW SE-506CB TS02 (I:) (USB 2.0)
I 04:24:47 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-RE XL!
I 04:25:11 Operation Started!
I 04:25:11 Source Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp BDDVDW SE-506CB TS02 (I:) (USB)
I 04:25:11 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000)
I 04:25:11 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2.2x, 4x, 5x
I 04:25:11 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x
I 04:25:11 Source Media Sectors: 46,708,448
I 04:25:11 Source Media Size: 95,658,901,504 bytes
I 04:25:11 Verify Against Image File: No
I 04:25:11 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 04:25:12 Read Speed - Effective: 2.2x - 5x
I 04:25:13 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 46708447)
I 04:25:13 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 46708447)
W 06:12:38 Failed to Read Sectors 46566752 - 46566783 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
I 06:13:45 Export Successfully Completed!
I 06:13:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:48:33
I 06:13:46 Average Verify Rate: 14,347 KiB/s (3.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 23,439 KiB/s (5.3x)

[LIGHTNING UK!]

There's no magic at work here, if your drive can't burn the discs properly then using different software isn't going to change that.

 

You'd have to look for firmware updates for the drive (that solve the issue you're having), use a different drive entirely (that doesn't have the issue) or use different discs and hope your drive does a better job with them.

[ikw3289r]

So, you don't think the issue is trying to burn one large 90GB file instead of several smaller files?

 

If I should try Imgburn do you recommend changing any of the default settings of Imgburn to burn one large 90GB file to 100GB disc?

 

Thanks

[LIGHTNING UK!]

No, the issue isn't to do with it being 1 large file.

 

Your drive just seems unable to produce a decent quality burn on those discs.

 

As I very much doubt there are any alternative triple layer M-Disc discs available, you'll probably have to give up and / or get another drive.

 

Most of the default settings will work fine. You will have change the file system selection one to just 'UDF' though.

[ikw3289r]

Thanks!

[dbminter]

Yeah, unfortunately there's not much else going here, I would say.  Your drive apparently doesn't like those Verbatim triple layer BD.  There's not much you can do beyond that.  You're using Verbatim VERBAT media which means it's quality media Verbatim made to its standards and not farmed out CMC junk.  If CMC even makes BD-R XL.  Which I think, to keep costs down, CMC only makes single layer BD-R.  But, Verbatim does farm out to CMC for its cheap BD-RE.  Of course, everyone else but Panasonic farms out to CMC for BD-RE.  Except Maxell's BD-RE but their MEI 2x BD-RE only write at 1x, so they're relatively useless if you want to write at something longer than an hour and a half.

 

 

I've never used a TSST drive so I couldn't say.  I've only ever had LiteOn, LG, and Pioneer Blu-Ray burners.  LiteOn's were junk and they no longer make them.  Mine stopped writing BD-RE after 3 months.  So, good riddance to them, I say.  LG I've had various issues with, most notably rewritable DVD media dying after less than 20 writes when an LG writes to them.  They're also slow readers, it seems to me.  Plus, my LG drive won't format rewritable CD/DVD/BD media in Windows Explorer.  My Pioneer does but not my LG.  My Pioneer has been the best.  The only real issue, which was fixed about a year later after a 2nd firmware update, was they wouldn't write to inkjet MKM Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL.  Which was odd since it WOULD write to non-inkjet Verbatim MKM DVD+R DL.  Same MID, but only the inkjet printable label surface was different.  However, I'm not entirely sure about the most recent firmware update for the drive.  I've only written 1 8x DVD+R DL since updating, but it seems stuck at mostly 6x.  It writes about 8x for only a minute or 2. 

 

 

So, I'd recommend a Pioneer but you'd have to crack open your PC case or get a USB enclosure to put it in since Pioneer doesn't make USB drives, to my knowledge.  And, with an enclosure, you do have to worry about possible semaphore timeout issues.  Which you won't know if your enclosure will have that problem on your motherboard until you actually connect it and test it to see.  The nature of the beast, I'm afraid.

[ikw3289r]

Thanks for your experience. I agree Pioneer is a better drive compared to Liteon and LG. This Samsung (TSST) is rated high and it is M-Disc approved. So, I am trying to get a firmware update.

[dbminter]

My previous LG along with my current one are both M-Disc drives.  I've yet to try an M-Disc out because of the higher costs of discs.  My Pioneer is not an M-Disc capable drive.