Failing on Verification using Verbatim MKM-003

[Malikus]

Hi,

 

I hope you can help. I have been trying to burn some backups of some of my 360 games and I have been having lots of problems and I am going through a lot of DVD's trying out different ideas and suggestions so I thought I would start a new thread about my specific problem to see if I could get some help.

 

I have combed through the forum looking at people posts with similar problems and I have tried many different methods but I keep getting failures. I got the Verbatim DL DVD's - MKM-003 - so I thought I would be good to go but I am still getting problems with burns.

 

I burned a backup earlier today that was only 7.9 GB and that burned no problem and I was able to boot it up on my 360. Then I tried the one below and 2 others that same size and I can't get past around 50-55% verification so I am not sure if it is the file size or what.

 

I'm using burnermax so I just don't get it. Any ideas?

 

 

 

I 17:45:16 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!

I 17:45:16 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 17:45:16 Total Physical Memory: 16,676,440 KiB  -  Available: 11,723,288 KiB

I 17:45:16 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:45:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:45:16 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L08 (D:) (SATA)

I 17:45:16 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 18:09:37 Operation Started!

I 18:09:37 Source File: C:\Users\123\Desktop\BatmanAC\Batman AC [Xbox360].dvd

I 18:09:37 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 18:09:37 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 18:09:37 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 18:09:37 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ea214000MS UDFBridge

I 18:09:37 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 18:09:37 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 18:09:37 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 18:09:37 Destination Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L08 (D:) (SATA)

I 18:09:37 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 18:09:37 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 18:09:37 Destination Media Sectors: 4,267,040

I 18:09:37 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520 (Changeable: Yes)

I 18:09:37 Write Mode: DVD

I 18:09:37 Write Type: DAO

I 18:09:37 Write Speed: 4x

I 18:09:37 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No

I 18:09:37 Link Size: Auto

I 18:09:37 Lock Volume: Yes

I 18:09:37 Test Mode: No

I 18:09:37 OPC: No

I 18:09:37 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 18:09:37 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)

I 18:09:37 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM

I 18:09:37 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes

I 18:09:37 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 42 - CD/DVD Record Count: 29

I 18:09:37 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520

I 18:09:37 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 18:09:37 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 18:09:37 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 2,133,520

I 18:09:38 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)

I 18:09:39 Writing LeadIn...

I 18:10:08 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 18:10:08 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 18:10:08 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)

I 18:23:07 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)

I 18:36:07 Synchronising Cache...

I 18:36:12 Closing Track...

I 18:36:13 Finalising Disc...

I 18:36:47 Exporting Graph Data...

I 18:36:47 Graph Data File: C:\Users\123\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS124_D_8L08_THURSDAY-AUGUST-06-2015_6-09_PM_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg

I 18:36:47 Export Successfully Completed!

I 18:36:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:10

I 18:36:47 Average Write Rate: 5,477 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,517 KiB/s (4.1x)

I 18:36:47 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 18:36:55 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 18:37:07 Device Ready!

I 18:37:08 Operation Started!

I 18:37:08 Source Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L08 (D:) (SATA)

I 18:37:08 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 18:37:08 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

I 18:37:08 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 18:37:08 Source Media Sectors: 4,267,024 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 2,133,520 - L1: 2,133,504)

I 18:37:08 Source Media Size: 8,738,865,152 bytes

I 18:37:08 Image File: C:\Users\123\Desktop\BatmanAC\Batman AC [Xbox360].dvd

I 18:37:08 Image File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 18:37:08 Image File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 18:37:08 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 18:37:08 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ea214000MS UDFBridge

I 18:37:08 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 18:37:08 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 18:37:08 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 18:37:08 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 18:37:09 Read Speed - Effective: 4.8x - 12x, 12x - 4.8x

I 18:37:09 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 18:37:09 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 18:37:09 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)

I 18:43:19 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)

W 18:43:33 Failed to Read Sectors 2133520 - 2133551 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:44:41 Failed to Read Sectors 2286224 - 2286255 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:45:27 Failed to Read Sectors 2357168 - 2357199 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:45:38 Failed to Read Sectors 2357552 - 2357583 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:45:49 Failed to Read Sector 2357553 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:51:54 Retrying (1)...

W 18:52:01 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 18:52:17 Retrying (2)...

W 18:52:23 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

E 18:52:25 Failed to Read Sector 2357553 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

E 18:52:25 Failed to Verify Sectors!

I 18:52:26 Exporting Graph Data...

I 18:52:26 Graph Data File: C:\Users\123\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS124_D_8L08_THURSDAY-AUGUST-06-2015_6-09_PM_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg

I 18:52:26 Export Successfully Completed!

E 18:52:26 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:15:17

I 18:52:26 Average Verify Rate: 5,147 KiB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,497 KiB/s (12.2x)

Edited August 7, 2015 by Malikus

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You could try the 8L0A firmware update.

 

http://www.firmwarehq.com/Lite-On/iHAS124%2BD/files.html

 

Clear the drive's OPC history.

 

You may need to try another spindle of MKM-003-00 discs. Get them from a different supplier.

 

Settings wise, you're using what's always worked for me on several drives, so there should be no problem there.

[Malikus]

OK, so I downloaded and updated my firmware to the 8L0A and cleared the drive's OPC history then tried a new burn.....fail.

 

Here is the log.

 

I don't see why it would be the DVD's, I got the ones everyone say work like every time.

 

I 03:06:41 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!

I 03:06:41 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 03:06:41 Total Physical Memory: 16,676,440 KiB  -  Available: 14,174,536 KiB

I 03:06:41 Initialising SPTI...

I 03:06:41 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 03:06:41 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L0A (D:) (SATA)

I 03:06:41 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 03:09:57 Operation Started!

I 03:09:57 Source File: F:\000downloads\Batman.Arkham.Origins.XBOX360-COMPLEX\DVD1\complex-batman.ao.d1.dvd

I 03:09:57 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 03:09:57 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 03:09:57 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 03:09:57 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4930000

I 03:09:57 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 03:09:57 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 03:09:57 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 03:09:57 Destination Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L0A (D:) (SATA)

I 03:09:57 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 03:09:57 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 03:09:57 Destination Media Sectors: 4,267,040

I 03:09:57 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520 (Changeable: Yes)

I 03:09:57 Write Mode: DVD

I 03:09:57 Write Type: DAO

I 03:09:57 Write Speed: 4x

I 03:09:57 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No

I 03:09:57 Link Size: Auto

I 03:09:57 Lock Volume: Yes

I 03:09:57 Test Mode: No

I 03:09:57 OPC: No

I 03:09:57 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 03:09:57 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)

I 03:09:57 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM

I 03:09:57 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes

I 03:09:57 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 43 - CD/DVD Record Count: 30

I 03:09:57 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520

I 03:09:57 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 03:09:57 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 03:09:57 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 2,133,520

I 03:09:58 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)

I 03:09:59 Writing LeadIn...

I 03:10:27 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 03:10:27 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 03:10:27 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)

I 03:23:26 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)

I 03:36:25 Synchronising Cache...

I 03:36:30 Closing Track...

I 03:36:31 Finalising Disc...

I 03:37:12 Exporting Graph Data...

I 03:37:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Artprints\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS124_D_8L0A_FRIDAY-AUGUST-07-2015_3-09_AM_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg

I 03:37:12 Export Successfully Completed!

I 03:37:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:14

I 03:37:12 Average Write Rate: 5,477 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,514 KiB/s (4.1x)

I 03:37:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 03:37:19 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 03:37:31 Device Ready!

I 03:37:32 Operation Started!

I 03:37:32 Source Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124   D 8L0A (D:) (SATA)

I 03:37:32 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 03:37:32 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

I 03:37:32 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 03:37:32 Source Media Sectors: 4,267,024 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 2,133,520 - L1: 2,133,504)

I 03:37:32 Source Media Size: 8,738,865,152 bytes

I 03:37:32 Image File: F:\000downloads\Batman.Arkham.Origins.XBOX360-COMPLEX\DVD1\complex-batman.ao.d1.dvd

I 03:37:32 Image File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 03:37:32 Image File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 03:37:32 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 03:37:32 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4930000

I 03:37:32 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 03:37:32 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 03:37:32 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 03:37:32 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 03:37:33 Read Speed - Effective: 4.8x - 12x, 12x - 4.8x

I 03:37:33 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 03:37:33 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 03:37:33 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)

I 03:43:43 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)

W 03:43:59 Failed to Read Sectors 2133520 - 2133551 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 03:44:10 Failed to Read Sector 2133536 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Discs are made in different places, so just all being 'MKM-003-00' doesn't make them equal. You can also get good and bad spindles.

 

It could also be your drive isn't good with the oversized images.

 

Try scanning the disc with kprobe (at 4x speed) and post up the graph so I can see it.

[Malikus]

if you need a larger image or a different sample just let me know. 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2015 by Malikus

[LIGHTNING UK!]

A non shrunk version would certainly be easier to read.

 

You can see that the error rate on the 2nd layer is very high though, that's why it's unreadable.

 

I doubt it'll make a difference but you could try enabling the 'Perform OPC Before Write' option in the settings and see if it helps the drive learn how to burn the variation of MKM-003-00 that you've got.

 

I'd be interested to see a scan from the disc you said you burnt a non oversized image to.

[Malikus]

Here is a scan of the disc I burned that was a smaller file and was successful.

 

 

[Malikus]

so i remembered that I had a sony dvd burner (Optiarc DVD RW AD-7190S) in one of my old computers so I figured I would give that a try for the hell of it. I installed it on my current computer and updated the firmware and gave it a try. I got all kinds of weird error on this one. take a look.

 

I didn't post the whole log because there where over 100,000 miscompares.

 

 

 

 

I 15:39:34 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!

I 15:39:34 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 15:39:34 Total Physical Memory: 16,676,440 KiB  -  Available: 14,375,704 KiB

I 15:39:34 Initialising SPTI...

I 15:39:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 15:39:34 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7190S 1.00 (D:) (SATA)

I 15:39:34 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 15:42:14 Operation Started!

I 15:42:14 Source File: F:\000downloads\Batman.Arkham.Origins.XBOX360-COMPLEX\DVD1\complex-batman.ao.d1.dvd

I 15:42:14 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 15:42:14 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 15:42:14 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 15:42:14 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4930000

I 15:42:14 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 15:42:14 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 15:42:14 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 15:42:14 Destination Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7190S 1.00 (D:) (SATA)

I 15:42:14 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 15:42:14 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 15:42:14 Destination Media Sectors: 4,267,040

I 15:42:14 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520 (Changeable: Yes)

I 15:42:14 Write Mode: DVD

I 15:42:14 Write Type: DAO

I 15:42:14 Write Speed: 4x

I 15:42:14 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No

I 15:42:14 Link Size: Auto

I 15:42:14 Lock Volume: Yes

I 15:42:14 Test Mode: No

I 15:42:14 OPC: No

I 15:42:14 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 15:42:14 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)

I 15:42:14 Book Type Setting: N/A (Reason: Invalid Command Operation Code)

I 15:42:14 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520

I 15:42:14 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 15:42:43 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 15:42:43 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 2,133,520

I 15:42:43 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)

I 15:42:44 Writing LeadIn...

I 15:42:46 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 15:42:46 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 15:42:46 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)

I 15:55:53 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)

I 16:09:02 Synchronising Cache...

I 16:09:06 Closing Track...

I 16:09:09 Finalising Disc...

I 16:09:42 Exporting Graph Data...

I 16:09:42 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Artprints\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7190S_1.00_FRIDAY-AUGUST-07-2015_3-42_PM_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg

I 16:09:42 Export Successfully Completed!

I 16:09:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:28

I 16:09:42 Average Write Rate: 5,414 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,454 KiB/s (4.0x)

I 16:09:42 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 16:09:50 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 16:10:15 Device Ready!

I 16:10:21 Operation Started!

I 16:10:21 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7190S 1.00 (D:) (SATA)

I 16:10:21 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)

I 16:10:21 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

I 16:10:21 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 16:10:21 Source Media Sectors: 4,267,024 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 2,086,912 - L1: 2,180,112)

I 16:10:21 Source Media Size: 8,738,865,152 bytes

I 16:10:21 Image File: F:\000downloads\Batman.Arkham.Origins.XBOX360-COMPLEX\DVD1\complex-batman.ao.d1.dvd

I 16:10:21 Image File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)

I 16:10:21 Image File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes

I 16:10:21 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM

I 16:10:21 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4930000

I 16:10:21 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)

I 16:10:21 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF

I 16:10:21 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)

I 16:10:21 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

W 16:23:56 Session 1, Track 1 is smaller on the disc than it is in the image file.

W 16:23:56 Disc's Track Sectors: 4173808 (TOC Sectors: 4173808)

W 16:23:56 Image File's Track Sectors: 4267015 (TOC Sectors: 4267015)

I 16:23:57 Read Speed - Effective: 12x

I 16:23:57 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 16:23:57 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)

I 16:23:57 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911)

I 16:30:15 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4267014)

W 16:32:34 Miscompare at LBA: 2086912, Offset: 0

W 16:32:34 Device: 0x1C

W 16:32:34 Image File: 0x69

W 16:32:34 Total Errors in Sector: 2,040

I 16:32:34 Verifying Sectors...

W 16:32:36 Miscompare at LBA: 2086913, Offset: 0

W 16:32:36 Device: 0x14

W 16:32:36 Image File: 0x7C

W 16:32:36 Total Errors in Sector: 2,042

Edited August 7, 2015 by Malikus

[Malikus]

Here is the Kprobe of the disc I burned with the Sony drive.

 

[LIGHTNING UK!]

That drive can't overburn.

[Malikus]

lol, yeah, I gathered that after I did the test. I figured what the hell. What do you think of the Kprobe for the disc that I did the worked but wasn't over 8 gb? do you think my drive just cant handle the overburn or do you think its the spindle of Verbatim I picked up?

 

If you think its the drive, can you recommend a drive that is really good for the type of burning/overburning I am doing?

 

Thanks again for all your help on this.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The Optiarc burnt them just fine so I'd say it's more likely to be the drive itself now.

 

It's not even that the liteon did a bad job on the overburnt one, even the normal burn (that seemingly worked) is pretty awful.