crunchief Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Hi, I'm new here. I use DVD Cloner 2015..I'm getting 2017 today. So... I save the DVD copy as an ISO to my hard drive, Then use I,B, to write the files to a disc. I also use verify. Some times it works and the disc is readable/playable and sometimes not..I'm not sure how to post the image of the log file so please excuse the notepad version: //****************************************\\; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log; Thursday, 23 March 2017, 08:53:26; \\****************************************//;;I 08:28:32 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!I 08:28:32 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)I 08:28:32 Total Physical Memory: 3,134,976 KiB - Available: 1,518,428 KiBI 08:28:32 Initialising SPTI...I 08:28:32 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...E 08:28:32 Failed to check for ImgBurn update!I 08:28:33 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7560A DX06 (E:) (ATA)I 08:28:33 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L LE05 (F:) (USB 2.0)I 08:28:33 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs!I 08:29:20 Operation Started!I 08:29:20 Source File: C:\Users\gateway\Desktop\ISO\FIRE_GIRL\FIRE_GIRL.isoI 08:29:20 Source File Sectors: 2,184,864 (MODE1/2048)I 08:29:20 Source File Size: 4,474,601,472 bytesI 08:29:20 Source File Volume Identifier: FIRE_GIRLI 08:29:20 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 1F7C7479I 08:29:20 Source File Implementation Identifier: Developer IDI 08:29:20 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)I 08:29:20 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L LE05 (F:) (USB)I 08:29:20 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00)I 08:29:20 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16xI 08:29:20 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104I 08:29:20 Write Mode: DVDI 08:29:20 Write Type: DAOI 08:29:20 Write Speed: 4xI 08:29:20 DVD+R Reserve Track: NoI 08:29:20 Link Size: AutoI 08:29:20 Lock Volume: YesI 08:29:20 Test Mode: NoI 08:29:20 OPC: NoI 08:29:20 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 08:29:20 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)I 08:29:20 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROMI 08:29:20 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 08:29:20 Writing LeadIn...I 08:29:40 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2184863)I 08:29:40 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2184863)I 08:43:05 Synchronising Cache...I 08:43:06 Closing Track...I 08:43:27 Finalising Disc...I 08:44:26 Exporting Graph Data...I 08:44:26 Graph Data File: C:\Users\gateway\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-E10L_LE05_THURSDAY-MARCH-23-2017_8-29_AM_CMC_MAG-M01-00_4x.ibgI 08:44:26 Export Successfully Completed!I 08:44:26 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:06I 08:44:26 Average Write Rate: 5,428 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,464 KiB/s (4.0x)I 08:44:26 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 08:44:35 Waiting for device to become ready...I 08:44:51 Device Ready!I 08:44:53 Operation Started!I 08:44:53 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L LE05 (F:) (USB)I 08:44:53 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00)I 08:44:53 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2.4x, 4.8x, 8x, 10xI 08:44:53 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16xI 08:44:53 Source Media Sectors: 2,184,864 (Track Path: PTP)I 08:44:53 Source Media Size: 4,474,601,472 bytesI 08:44:53 Image File: C:\Users\gateway\Desktop\ISO\FIRE_GIRL\FIRE_GIRL.isoI 08:44:53 Image File Sectors: 2,184,864 (MODE1/2048)I 08:44:53 Image File Size: 4,474,601,472 bytesI 08:44:53 Image File Volume Identifier: FIRE_GIRLI 08:44:53 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 1F7C7479I 08:44:53 Image File Implementation Identifier: Developer IDI 08:44:53 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)I 08:44:53 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 08:44:54 Read Speed - Effective: 4.1x - 10xI 08:44:54 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2184863)I 08:44:54 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2184863)I 08:52:24 Exporting Graph Data...I 08:52:24 Graph Data File: C:\Users\gateway\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-E10L_LE05_THURSDAY-MARCH-23-2017_8-29_AM_CMC_MAG-M01-00_4x.ibgI 08:52:24 Export Successfully Completed!I 08:52:24 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:30I 08:52:24 Average Verify Rate: 9,753 KiB/s (7.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 13,709 KiB/s (10.1x)I 08:53:26 Close Request AcknowledgedI 08:53:26 Closing Down...I 08:53:26 Shutting down SPTI...I 08:53:26 ImgBurn closed!;___________________________________________--- I do have the latest I.B. version installed. Sometimes the ISO copies/writes perfectly and sometimes not. This particular disc,after burn, shows the title but does not play in any of the three vid players: Media Center,Media Player and the Classic one.The play button just causes the "wait" circle to spin,and spin and spin.... I use an external DVD player,(Drive 2 ). The one in the laptop does not work.These are old units also, I realize that but they are all I have. Anyone have any ideas what is up? At .25 cents per disc I'm not too worried about a few fails but this is the about the 5th time for that ISO file, I have deleted the ISO and rerun DCloner three times and no joy. I use the expert interface and 9->5 sizing, full movie copy (subtitles/dubbed). Any thoughts are welcome.
dbminter Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 The first debugging step I'd take is to stop using the cheap CMC Magnetics discs. I 08:29:20 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00) CMC Magnetics is the worst manufacturer of optical discs out there. Half the time they fail to burn. Half of those fail to Verify. And half of those that do pass both steps fail to play in DVD players. Try Verbatim DataLife Plus discs you can only find online. Do NOT get Verbatim Life series DVD's from brick and mortar stores. They will be CMC's. As for posting a Notepad version of the log, GET OUT! Just kidding. I prefer the ability to see the log as text, anyway, versus an image posted or attached to a post. So, I'd guess others might prefer it that way, too.
crunchief Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 This is a new stack of the CMC,s so I'll burn through them to see if anything takes.When I get home I'll look at the wrapper to see if the manf. is listed. Thanx for the advice on a different disc type. Is there a longevity issue with the CMCs? I mean these are movies. I really don't plan on watching them but once a year or so.
dbminter Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 The wrapper will not tell you the Disc ID, which is the actual manufacturer who made it. Companies don't want you to know this information because if you knew, you might not buy their cheap media masquerading as something else. The only way to tell the actual manufacturer is to put a disc in a drive, open ImgBurn in Write or Read mode, and check for the Disc ID/Manufacturer field in the right pane of information. Oh, man, the issues with CMC media... There are longevity issues with them. Sometimes they last for a while. Sometimes they're unreadable after a year. There's reflectivity issues with them, which causes playback problems with DVD players. They may be unable to recognize a CMC disc has been inserted. CMC Lightscribe DVD+R would not be recognized in the DVD player my mother had. The primary issue with CMC media is their general low quality, which causes them to fail to finish burning or fail to pass Verify. Most of the problems on this board are caused by cheap CMC media. Most people find their problems miraculously disappear when they stop using CMC discs. It's not always the case, of course, but it is the case in the majority of issues.
crunchief Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 Ok, thnx again for the info. I'll look up the ones you suggested. I guess the other question I would have is that the ISO file is ok. Though this is not a DCloner forum. If i download an ISO player and the file works then it is the CMCs.
dbminter Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 If you want to check that the ISO is fine, you can install Virtual CloneDrive, mount the ISO, and then play its contents in your preferred DVD software player. However, be aware that computers are more forgiving than a stand alone DVD player. So, what may play on your PC may not play in a stand alone DVD player. However, since you say some discs play and some don't, you can probably rule out the ISO files. That seems more indicative of the CMC discs. I had several cake stacks of Optodisc DVD-R before I learned about CMC. They were stacks of 200 discs. About half would burn, verify, and play. Half wouldn't complete a burn. That just goes to show the varying quality of CMC within the same cake stack.
crunchief Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 Ok, I'll see what happens and thnx again for your time. Your answers were succinct and easy to understand. I like that.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 If it burnt and verified ok, it should at least be readable / playable in that same pc / drive. So I'd say it must be an issue with your encoding/authoring software. Why don't you try something besides what you're using now? Try CloneDVD from Elaborate Bytes. Playback wise, media player classic home cinema or black edition should work fine. As should Videolan's VLC.
dbminter Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 To check on LUK's possibility, try inserting one of these DVD+R's that don't play properly in a PC drive and open ImgBurn in Read mode. Try reading this disc to an image file. If it reads without error, then the problem is probably either in the player or the software that created the DVD to begin with. If there are read errors, then the disc itself is unreadable or the drive you inserted it in doesn't like those CMC discs. It is possible, but don't ask me HOW, that a disc can pass Write, pass Verify, but be unreadable. I just had one such disc earlier in the week. I burned a disc to a DVD+RW that passed Write and Verify, but the Playstation 3 would not recognize it was inserted. Inserting it in a PC drive just caused the drive's light to flash infinitely trying to read it. So, the disc was actually unreadable. I still can't fathom how a disc can pass Write, pass Verify, but be unreadable.
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