Jack5097 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Posted November 12, 2017 I also wanna thank you, for your great help / superb info / & patience with me Didn't know that burning 4K HDR movies, was so difficult ......... Due most players still have problems reading DL. Like you said :1) we need to find the good burner for it2) we need to find the brand for it (for the UBD-K8500) Samsung his quality is going down .... That's for sure. More and more people complain. And theire service is garbage lately also.They say: The problem is you're TV. What the hell ?? No, no, the problem is Samsung :whack:
dbminter Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 There are none so blind as those who will not see, and Samsung, it appears, won't see. Sort of like Freemake. I point out all kinds of repeatable bugs in their software, and they just use excuses like it's iTunes's fault to avoid having to do any research into their own software. I've never even seen a 4k movie, so I can't say anything on that subject. I think those are the DataLifePlus Verbatim BD-R DL that showed up on Amazon.com. I've never used any, so I can't say. I can only attest to the quality of DataLifePlus media from Verbatim. Except for their BD-R SL which aren't labeled as DataLifePlus but still appear to be quality media, I always look for DataLifePlus on the package of Verbatim DVD-R, CD-R, and DVD+R DL. Otherwise, you will get cheap quality CMC media. As for the other BD-R DL, couldn't say. Never used one. Plus, you can't really tell based on the outside package. You need the interior branded label or the Disc ID returned by ImgBurn.
Jack5097 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) + the fact .... Samsung like this brand, Sony like that brand, ....I guess it comes all down, to TRIAL and ERROR. I've been lucky again. I've buyed 1 BLUE VERBATIM, on cheap price to test. Gesamtbetrag inkl. Versand: 14,98 EUR (inclusive shipment) on ebay. Here's a picture: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61%2B8iyECHKL._SL1023_.jpg This I like very much. That you sometimes can buy 1 disk to test, instead of buying a huge SPINDLE. I'm at WAR with my UBD-K8500 !!! hehehe ... I throw every disk at it. If he keeps beeing annoying, Maybe in the futur, I will buy a second different 4K Player.When the prices are going down a littlebit. Don't have the money now for something like 500-800 euro's. Edited November 12, 2017 by Jack5097
dbminter Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 As I said, it's hard to tell anything based on the exterior packaging. Sometimes the single media test can be the better way to go and sometimes it's more cost effective to get a package of a few, depending on how much the cost per disc is. For instance, if you need 50 of a particular media, it's often cheaper to buy 2 25 cake stacks versus 1 50 stack. However, sometimes it's better to just roll the dice. For instance, I found an Amazon.com seller selling so called DataLifePlus DVD+RW for $18 each. However, the label on the package said nothing about DataLifePlus. Amazon.com sells what it calls DataLifePlus DVD+RW for the same price for 10 of them. However, Amazon.com's listed item picture also doesn't say DataLifePlus on the package. So, it's probably better to roll the dice on the 10 of them and see.
Jack5097 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) My friend, I've thrown 3 other BD-DL 50GB at it. Samsung UBD-K8500, seems to have a BAD/SAD POOR quality LAZER !!! Second: When buying original 4K HDR movies (BLACK BLURAY) It seems also my = UBD-K8500 can't play = TRUE-HD or DTS-HD SOUND !!! So, I get NO SOUND at all !!!! This 4K player = just GARBAGE !!!! He has also problems with playing other FORMATS (Video & Sound files) I will NEVER, NEVER buy something from = SAMSUNG again !!!! Samsung 4K player, seems to FORCE-US to buy ORIGINAL 4K movies.Instead of COPY MKV / MP4 files. Samsung is NOT = CUSTOMAR FRIENDLY !!!!!!!!!!!! SAMSUNG = SHAME !!!!!! Buying an ORIGINAL 4K movie. I get picture, but NO SOUND !!! Samsung doesn't Support = TRUE-HD or DTS-HD !!!! What a WASTE of 350 euro's !!!!!!!!!! :fever: Edited November 16, 2017 by Jack5097
Jack5097 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Posted November 16, 2017 The only solution for 4K movies, I can do now ..... Is to spit the MKV file (35GB) into 2 pieces. And burn it over 2 Single-Player disks of 25GB each. All my 4K movies are now = PART 1 / PART 2 I SPLIT the 4K movie / into / 2 PIECES !!!! HALFWAY ........... Ok, I don't mind changing disks / after 50 minutes or 1 hour of playtime. Every 50 minutes, I can check TOILET pee/pee time. hahahhaha Jack
Jack5097 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Posted November 16, 2017 2 disks of Verbatim = SINGLE LAYER 25GB cost me: 0.80 euro each disk = = 1.6 euros total for 2 disks. -------------------------- I split a movie into HALF !!!!!!! And cost me 1.6 euro TOTAL. For 2 empty disks of 25GB. For this 4K HDR BT2020 movie. ------------------------------------ SPLITTING = is the way to go !!!!!!!!! For 4K movies Without loosing QUALITY !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack
dbminter Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 My friend, I've thrown 3 other BD-DL 50GB at it. Samsung UBD-K8500, seems to have a BAD/SAD POOR quality LAZER !!! Second: When buying original 4K HDR movies (BLACK BLURAY) It seems also my = UBD-K8500 can't play = TRUE-HD or DTS-HD SOUND !!! So, I get NO SOUND at all !!!! This 4K player = just GARBAGE !!!! He has also problems with playing other FORMATS (Video & Sound files) I will NEVER, NEVER buy something from = SAMSUNG again !!!! Samsung 4K player, seems to FORCE-US to buy ORIGINAL 4K movies. Instead of COPY MKV / MP4 files. Samsung is NOT = CUSTOMAR FRIENDLY !!!!!!!!!!!! SAMSUNG = SHAME !!!!!! Buying an ORIGINAL 4K movie. I get picture, but NO SOUND !!! Samsung doesn't Support = TRUE-HD or DTS-HD !!!! What a WASTE of 350 euro's !!!!!!!!!! :fever: After doing all the various things you did and what I suggested, I was leaning more towards the Samsung player as being at fault, as I said. You replaced your burner with a Pioneer and that solved your Verify problems. However, you were still getting playback errors on the Samsung but not on the PC. The PC was burning, Verifying, and playing/reading fine. So, the most likely culprit was the Samsung player.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 I'd be amazed if it can't decode the audio formats you've mentioned. The specs for that model specifically say it can. I assume you've checked it's running the latest firmware / software?
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