tkrafte1 Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Trying to copy Queen GHits I/II on CD-R. CD 1 wrote successfully, CD 2 failed, see images and error log below. I've seen the posts regarding use of Ritek/CMC discs but disc 1 wrote okay: I 16:45:31 Source File: E:\CDs\queen1.cue I 16:45:31 Source File Sectors: 263,057 (AUDIO/2352) I 16:45:31 Source File Size: 618,710,064 bytes I 16:45:31 Source File File System(s): None I 16:45:31 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208FB TF01 (D:) (SATA) I 16:45:31 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.) I 16:45:31 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x I 16:45:31 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844 with a Source File Size: 618,710,064 bytes where disc 2 fails with Source File Size: 804,012,384 bytes, even though the time is only 76 minutes (see image). So the question is - if the source file size > 700MB, it's gonna fail no matter what 80min CD-R I use, right? If that's the case, then this is a bug report as that should be reported by ImgBurn before the write is attempted. So how does one create a copy of this disc? Do I have to find 800GB CD-Rs? Thanks Toby PS - the image files (cue/bin) were created by ImgBurn reading the retail discs right before I tried the write. PPS - this is on Lenovo laptop I 17:54:47 Source File: E:\CDs\queen2.cue I 17:54:47 Source File Sectors: 341,842 (AUDIO/2352) I 17:54:47 Source File Size: 804,012,384 bytes I 17:54:47 Source File File System(s): None I 17:54:47 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208FB TF01 (D:) (SATA) I 17:54:47 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m15s17f, Ritek Co.) I 17:54:47 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x I 17:54:47 Destination Media Sectors: 359,843 I 17:54:47 Write Mode: CD I 17:54:47 Write Type: SAO I 17:54:47 Write Speed: MAX I 17:54:47 Lock Volume: Yes I 17:54:47 Test Mode: No I 17:54:47 OPC: No I 17:54:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 17:54:48 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x) I 17:54:48 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 17:54:50 Writing LeadIn... I 17:55:23 Writing Session 1 of 1... (17 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 341841) I 17:55:23 Writing Track 1 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 0 - 19701) I 17:55:47 Writing Track 2 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 19702 - 37474) I 17:56:07 Writing Track 3 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 37475 - 63216) I 17:56:33 Writing Track 4 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 63217 - 81371) I 17:56:50 Writing Track 5 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 81372 - 100736) I 17:57:06 Writing Track 6 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 100737 - 129854) I 17:57:31 Writing Track 7 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 129855 - 148574) I 17:57:45 Writing Track 8 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 148575 - 167261) I 17:58:00 Writing Track 9 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 167262 - 189509) I 17:58:16 Writing Track 10 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 189510 - 210049) I 17:58:31 Writing Track 11 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 210050 - 232166) I 17:58:45 Writing Track 12 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 232167 - 250764) I 17:58:58 Writing Track 13 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 250765 - 268626) I 17:59:10 Writing Track 14 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 268627 - 285196) I 17:59:21 Writing Track 15 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 285197 - 303864) I 17:59:33 Writing Track 16 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 303865 - 323636) I 17:59:44 Writing Track 17 of 17... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 323637 - 341841) W 17:59:49 Failed to Write Sectors 327876 - 327902 - Reason: Write Error W 17:59:49 Retrying (1 of 20)...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Quote W 17:59:49 Failed to Write Sectors 327876 - 327902 - Reason: Write Error Your drive reported a 'Write Error'. That's why the burn failed. Just try again. If your drive often fails to burn those discs at MAX speed, try slowing the write speed down a bit (maybe to 16x) and/or getting some different discs.
tkrafte1 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, tkrafte1 said: Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x Thanks. Writing at 10x worked. I guess I'll just use slower speeds from now on.
dbminter Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 That's the nature of cheap discs like CMC. Some people never report any errors and some people will have some discs from a stack work and some not. I had some CMC DVD+R's that all burned, but my DVD player did not recognize playable discs had been inserted. Try something other than Ritek discs like Verbatim AZO/DataLife Plus (NOT Life Series, which are CMC discs.) or, as LUK said, try a few more burns to CMC or even Riteks and see if you get a burn that completes properly. It seems you're having better luck with CMC with your drive than Ritek. So, try another CMC disc and see what you get. It could be your combination of drive and firmware doesn't like Ritek CD-R media. If the image is too large for the CD-R you're trying to burn to, ImgBurn will tell you it is before burning it. Ah, you replied why I was adding one. Glad you got it to work. Although it could be a fluke and you just got one of the random burns that works correctly. Still, try using the slower speeds each time and see if you get stable results.
tkrafte1 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Posted February 19, 2019 Just a bummer that even today after all these years (decades) manufacturing and supporting optical media and drives - it's still a crap shoot whether any write will work, and no way to know until after you've wasted a few discs trying to figure out - Oh, with this drive and these discs, I can only do 10x... I'll shop for some Verbatim to use going forward. Thanks for replying! Appreciate the support.
dbminter Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 As I said, don't get the Life Series CD-R that you'll find in brick and mortar stores. They use the cheap CMC discs for those. The DataLife Plus/AZO CD-R discs can only be found online.
tkrafte1 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Posted February 19, 2019 Like these? Description says "Advanced AZO recording dye" even though not shown on the image. Or these AZO ones -> https://www.verbatim.com/prod/optical-media/cd/datalife-plus-cd-recordable/cd-r-azo-sku-94760/ If these just work without worrying about the record speed, it's worth it! Thanks.
dbminter Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Either one of those will do the trick. You just need to look for DataLife Plus first, but, in recent years, DataLife Plus wasn't always applied to Verbatim CD-R packaging; mostly more applied to their DVD media. So, Verbatim was only using AZO on the packaging, but I guess, in recent times, they've added the DataLife Plus name back to the packaging. Which makes it easier on me finding the good stuff. Pretty much, stick with Verbatim DataLife Plus media whenever you can. It costs a little extra, but as the old Spanish saying goes, the cheap comes out expensive. Verbatim is all I use, except for BD-RE SL. Verbatim DVD+R DL is really the only high quality DVD+R DL blank out there. And Verbatim makes the best BD-R (NOT their BD-RE SL, which is CMC only now! ) even though it doesn't say DataLife Plus on it. Pretty much, just avoid any Verbatim that says Life Series on it and their BD-RE SL; their BD-RE DL is good stuff, though, most likely because CMC probably doesn't make BD-RE DL media.
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