lemagu Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Hi guys, I was burning CD-Rs since several days now. My drive supports these write speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x and 48x. When I choose 2x as the burn speed, it correctly detects the misscompare and switches to 16x write speed since it is the closest to 2x the drive supports. But the problem comes here: when I see the logs at the end of the burning session, it ALWAYS burned at a maximum speed of ~14.1x and the average write speed is always 14x. So it never actually burns at 16x as stated in the logs. Before you answer that this is because it tries to burn at less than 16x because I selected 2x read this: This happens always, no matter which speed I choose. I tried with 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x, 10x, 12x, 14x, 16x, 18x and 20x and all of them ended in the same logs: average write speed of 14x and maximum about 14.1x. Where is the problem? My drive is an ATAPI iHAS122 on a desktop computer. The logs of a burning session selecting 20x as the write speed: Info 19:59:33 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! Info 19:59:33 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) Info 19:59:33 Total Physical Memory: 4.158.580 KiB - Available: 3.032.232 KiB Info 19:59:33 Initialising SPTI... Info 19:59:33 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... Info 19:59:34 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 19:59:34 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! Info 19:59:46 Operation Started! Info 19:59:46 Source File: C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\game.cue Info 19:59:46 Source File Sectors: 315.736 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) Info 19:59:46 Source File Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 19:59:46 Source File Volume Identifier: GAME_NTSC Info 19:59:46 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 Info 19:59:46 Destination Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 19:59:46 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) Info 19:59:46 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 19:59:46 Destination Media Sectors: 359.847 Info 19:59:46 Write Mode: CD Info 19:59:46 Write Type: SAO Info 19:59:46 Write Speed: 20x Info 19:59:46 Lock Volume: Yes Info 19:59:46 Test Mode: No Info 19:59:46 OPC: No Info 19:59:46 BURN-Proof: Enabled Warn 19:59:46 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3.528 KB/s (20x), Got: 2.823 KB/s (16x) <-------- Warn 19:59:46 The drive only supports writing these discs at 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x. <-------- Info 19:59:46 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes Info 19:59:46 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 102 - CD/DVD Record Count: 7 Info 19:59:47 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) Info 19:59:47 Writing LeadIn... Info 20:00:03 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 20:00:03 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 20:04:25 Synchronising Cache... Info 20:04:35 Exporting Graph Data... Info 20:04:35 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS122_ZL0C_MIÉRCOLES-07-DE-JULIO-DE-2021_07-59_p.m._97m27s18f_20x.ibg Info 20:04:35 Export Successfully Completed! Info 20:04:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:49 Info 20:04:35 Average Write Rate: 2.778 KiB/s (14.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2.796 KiB/s (14.1x) <-------- Info 20:04:35 Cycling Tray before Verify... Warn 20:04:43 Waiting for device to become ready... Info 20:04:51 Device Ready! Info 20:04:53 Operation Started! Info 20:04:53 Source Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 20:04:53 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) Info 20:04:53 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 8x, 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 20:04:53 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 20:04:53 Source Media Sectors: 315.736 Info 20:04:53 Source Media Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 20:04:53 Image File: C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\game.cue Info 20:04:53 Image File Sectors: 315.736 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) Info 20:04:53 Image File Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 20:04:53 Image File Volume Identifier: GAME_NTSC Info 20:04:53 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 Info 20:04:53 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX Info 20:04:54 Read Speed - Effective: 48x Info 20:04:55 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 20:04:55 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 20:07:05 Exporting Graph Data... Info 20:07:05 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS122_ZL0C_MIÉRCOLES-07-DE-JULIO-DE-2021_07-59_p.m._97m27s18f_20x.ibg Info 20:07:05 Export Successfully Completed! Info 20:07:05 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:10 Info 20:07:05 Average Verify Rate: 5.621 KiB/s (28.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 7.962 KiB/s (40.2x) Edited July 7, 2021 by lemagu
LIGHTNING UK! Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 What happens if you pick 24 or 32 as the write rate? Does it still max out at 14x? The 14x could actually be a cosmetic issue as I fixed an issue to do with CD read and write rates a million years ago. There hasn't been a new 'public' release since I fixed it.
lemagu Posted July 8, 2021 Author Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, LIGHTNING UK! said: What happens if you pick 24 or 32 as the write rate? Does it still max out at 14x? The 14x could actually be a cosmetic issue as I fixed an issue to do with CD read and write rates a million years ago. There hasn't been a new 'public' release since I fixed it. Hi! I am doing that test right know. I chose 24x as the write speed, I will be back in a few minutes. I will also make some tests at 32x and let you know.
lemagu Posted July 8, 2021 Author Posted July 8, 2021 Well, I burned 3 CD-Rs at 24x and another 3 at 32x, just to dicard random variations. With 24x the average write speed of 14x was finally broken, and so it was with 32x. For a chosen write rate of 24x the average speed was 20.1x and the maximum was 21.2x, for the three CDs. For a chosen write rate of 32x the average speed was 23.3x and the maximum was 28.2x, for the three CDs. I drop here the logs of one of the burns at 32x: Info 22:15:04 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! Info 22:15:04 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) Info 22:15:04 Total Physical Memory: 4.158.580 KiB - Available: 2.740.536 KiB Info 22:15:04 Initialising SPTI... Info 22:15:04 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... Info 22:15:04 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 22:15:04 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! Info 22:15:10 Operation Started! Info 22:15:10 Source File: C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Game.cue Info 22:15:10 Source File Sectors: 315.736 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) Info 22:15:10 Source File Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 22:15:10 Source File Volume Identifier: GAME_NTSC Info 22:15:10 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 Info 22:15:10 Destination Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 22:15:10 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) Info 22:15:10 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 22:15:10 Destination Media Sectors: 359.847 Info 22:15:11 Write Mode: CD Info 22:15:11 Write Type: SAO Info 22:15:11 Write Speed: 32x Info 22:15:11 Lock Volume: Yes Info 22:15:11 Test Mode: No Info 22:15:11 OPC: No Info 22:15:11 BURN-Proof: Enabled Info 22:15:11 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5.645 KB/s (32x) <-------- Info 22:15:11 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes Info 22:15:11 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 113 - CD/DVD Record Count: 14 Info 22:15:11 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) Info 22:15:11 Writing LeadIn... Info 22:15:31 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 22:15:31 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 22:18:09 Synchronising Cache... Info 22:18:17 Exporting Graph Data... Info 22:18:17 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS122_ZL0C_MIÉRCOLES-07-DE-JULIO-DE-2021_10-15_p.m._97m27s18f_32x.ibg Info 22:18:17 Export Successfully Completed! Info 22:18:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:07 Info 22:18:17 Average Write Rate: 4.619 KiB/s (23.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5.576 KiB/s (28.2x) <-------- Info 22:18:17 Cycling Tray before Verify... Warn 22:18:25 Waiting for device to become ready... Info 22:18:33 Device Ready! Info 22:18:35 Operation Started! Info 22:18:35 Source Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI iHAS122 ZL0C (D:) (ATA) Info 22:18:35 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) Info 22:18:35 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 8x, 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 22:18:35 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x Info 22:18:35 Source Media Sectors: 315.736 Info 22:18:35 Source Media Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 22:18:35 Image File: C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Game.cue Info 22:18:35 Image File Sectors: 315.736 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) Info 22:18:35 Image File Size: 742.611.072 bytes Info 22:18:35 Image File Volume Identifier: GAME_NTSC Info 22:18:35 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 Info 22:18:35 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX Info 22:18:36 Read Speed - Effective: 48x Info 22:18:37 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 22:18:37 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 315735) Info 22:20:47 Exporting Graph Data... Info 22:20:47 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS122_ZL0C_MIÉRCOLES-07-DE-JULIO-DE-2021_10-15_p.m._97m27s18f_32x.ibg Info 22:20:47 Export Successfully Completed! Info 22:20:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:11 Info 22:20:47 Average Verify Rate: 5.621 KiB/s (28.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 7.962 KiB/s (40.2x) Why is it always burning at a lower speed than the chosen speed?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 It isn't... the calculation is just a bit off. Drives usually ramp up to their chosen speed slowly throughout the burn. So if you pick 32x, it may start at 16x and then build up to 32x... which would only be reached at the very outer edges of the disc (i.e. when you've filled the disc up 100%).
dbminter Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Yes, it depends on how much data you've written to these CD-R's. If it stayed at 24x and you wrote an entire CD-R full of data, I'd be wary. But, if you didn't fill an entire disc, it may only have reached 24x by the time it got to finishing writing data.
lemagu Posted July 13, 2021 Author Posted July 13, 2021 Oka, thank you so much for the answers guys!! It helped me to understand better.
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