Burning faster than expected?

[Kakarotto]

I used a Verbatim DVD+R, the problem is that i set burning speed to x1, what i expected was that highest possible write rate would be about 5400, but look at this log:

 

I 00:21:13 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 00:21:13 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 00:21:13 Initialising SPTI...

I 00:21:13 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 00:21:13 Found 1 DVD?RW/RAM!

I 00:22:44 Operation Started!

I 00:22:44 Source File: D:\Filmer\Downloads\Emanuelle.And.The.Last.Cannibals.1977.UNCUT.NORDiC.PAL.DVDR-BBDvDR\emanuelle-bbdvdr.img

I 00:22:44 Source File Sectors: 2?288?871 (MODE1/2048)

I 00:22:44 Source File Size: 4?687?607?808 bytes

I 00:22:44 Source File Volume Identifier: EMANUELLE

I 00:22:44 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

I 00:22:44 Source File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs

I 00:22:44 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1,02)

I 00:22:44 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (E:) (ATA)

I 00:22:44 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 8x; 12x; 16x)

I 00:22:44 Destination Media Sectors: 2?295?104

I 00:22:44 Write Mode: DVD

I 00:22:44 Write Type: DAO

I 00:22:44 Write Speed: 1x

I 00:22:44 Link Size: Auto

I 00:22:44 Test Mode: No

I 00:22:44 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 00:22:46 Filling Buffer...

I 00:22:48 Writing LeadIn...

I 00:23:02 Writing Image...

I 00:30:31 Synchronising Cache...

I 00:30:32 Closing Track...

I 00:30:35 Finalising Disc...

I 00:31:07 Image MD5: 3704dfed00e19d54fb377ff3d47605cd

I 00:31:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:22

I 00:31:07 Average Write Rate: 10?195 KB/s (7.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10?195 KB/s (7.4x)

I 00:31:07 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 00:31:17 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 00:31:32 Device Ready!

I 00:31:32 Operation Started!

I 00:31:32 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (E:) (ATA)

I 00:31:32 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 8x; 12x; 16x)

I 00:31:32 Image File: D:\Filmer\Downloads\Emanuelle.And.The.Last.Cannibals.1977.UNCUT.NORDiC.PAL.DVDR-BBDvDR\emanuelle-bbdvdr.img

I 00:31:32 Image File Sectors: 2?288?871 (MODE1/2048)

I 00:31:32 Image File Size: 4?687?607?808 bytes

I 00:31:32 Image File Volume Identifier: EMANUELLE

I 00:31:32 Image File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

I 00:31:32 Image File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs

I 00:31:32 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1,02)

I 00:31:33 Verifying Sectors...

I 00:40:03 Image MD5: 3704dfed00e19d54fb377ff3d47605cd

I 00:40:09 File Successfully Deleted: D:\Filmer\Downloads\Emanuelle.And.The.Last.Cannibals.1977.UNCUT.NORDiC.PAL.DVDR-BBDvDR\emanuelle-bbdvdr.img

I 00:40:09 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:30

I 00:40:09 Average Verify Rate: 8?975 KB/s (6.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 13?516 KB/s (9.8x)

 

What seems to be the problem?

[kevdriver]

kakarotto, You had a successful burn, No?. Looks to me like you set the burn speed at 1X and the media can't burn at that speed........ 00:22:44 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 8x; 12x; 16x)

 

Your burner fiqured that out by reading the disc and just let itself burn at the max speed it sensed the media was comfortable at. Imgburn overwrote your manual 1X setting since it was irrelevent. in this case.

[Kakarotto]

kakarotto, You had a successful burn, No?. Looks to me like you set the burn speed at 1X and the media can't burn at that speed........ 00:22:44 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 8x; 12x; 16x)

 

Your burner fiqured that out by reading the disc and just let itself burn at the max speed it sensed the media was comfortable at. Imgburn overwrote your manual 1X setting since it was irrelevent. in this case.

 

Yes, the burn seems to be successful. I?ve tested the disc too, and it works perfectly fine. So i shouldn?t be afraid if it burns over my set burn speed? Because x1 has always been x4 with this media i use.

Edited December 3, 2006 by Kakarotto

[kevdriver]

So i shouldn?t be afraid if it burns over my set burn speed? Because x1 has always been x4 with this media i use. No worries there kakarotto, Imgburn is an amazing program............. .

[volvofl10]

you can set your burn speed to MAX , it wont make a blind bit of differance as long as you have burnproof enabled

I 00:22:44 BURN-Proof: Enabled

[Kakarotto]

So i shouldn?t be afraid if it burns over my set burn speed? Because x1 has always been x4 with this media i use. No worries there kakarotto, Imgburn is an amazing program............. .

 

Puh, thank you for your help, now I can burn without regrets again. Hahahahahaha! *EVIL LAUGH*

[kevdriver]

Kakarotto: As Polo mentioned above, just set your burn to max and make sure you have burn proof enabled, everything will be fine for you.

[Kakarotto]

Kakarotto: As Polo mentioned above, just set your burn to max and make sure you have burn proof enabled, everything will be fine for you.

 

From what i heard, the quality gets worse if you burn faster, is this true or just a myth? Because when i burn i want it to be as safe as possible.

[kevdriver]

Thats really dependent on the quality of media used and your burner ( keeping firmware up to date ). Img will poll the media to see what speeds its comfortable at burning with. Burn proof being enabled is your safest bet for a quality successful burn.

[Kakarotto]

Thats really dependent on the quality of media used and your burner ( keeping firmware up to date ). Img will poll the media to see what speeds its comfortable at burning with. Burn proof being enabled is your safest bet for a quality successful burn.

 

Okay, thanks for the info and one more thing, which burner is the best? In your honest opinion, i have a kinda crappy burner.

[kevdriver]

I myself use a Benq DW 1640, Pioneer 110D, and an LG. All dual layer burners. You'll get lots of different responses for this question. I guess its really up to yourself what you like taking into account price, quality, and reputation of whatever burner your looking at. Plextor is another great brand although usually a bit more pricey than the above mentioned ones.

[Kakarotto]

I myself use a Benq DW 1640, Pioneer 110D, and an LG. All dual layer burners. You'll get lots of different responses for this question. I guess its really up to yourself what you like taking into account price, quality, and reputation of whatever burner your looking at. Plextor is another great brand although usually a bit more pricey than the above mentioned ones.

 

Thats a lot of burners you have there, I heard that Benq is really good. So i think I?ll go with one of those actually.

[polopony]

I use a NEC3500 myself ,its an older model but turns out perfect dvd on Verbatims and Yudens .If you get a BenQ the 1670 can be had for about $30-$40 they're getting hard to find but www.meritline.com has some also the 1655's

[LIGHTNING UK!]

ImgBurn will always tell the drive to burn at whatever speed you have selected.

 

It's then down to the drive to say if that speed is one of the 'supported' ones or not.

 

If it's not a supported speed it'll just use (or at least should do!) the closest speed to it.

[Kakarotto]

ImgBurn will always tell the drive to burn at whatever speed you have selected.

 

It's then down to the drive to say if that speed is one of the 'supported' ones or not.

 

If it's not a supported speed it'll just use (or at least should do!) the closest speed to it.

 

LIGHTNING UK! I think this is kinda weird, because I?ve always used Verbatim (MC0400, I think it is). I have burned about a hundred of these...and all of those where burnt in about 5400kb/s (x3.9-x4).

[polopony]

you're trying to burn at 1x thats a thing of the past and if you look at the supported write speeds its not an option .With that media Verb oo4's you can safely burn up to 12x and get good quality ratings .If the write speed you choose isn't supported then its up to the drive to select it from its firmware and you get whatever you get . Set the write speed to 8X and leave it alone the best burns on that media are the 8x ,the quality scans support this.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Kakarotto,

 

Sorry, my last post was just about explaining how ImgBurn works.

 

I really can't say why your drive burnt at 8x when it should have burnt at 4x.

 

ImgBurn sent it the numbers for burning at 1x, it would/should have disregarded those and defaulted to the nearest speed it supports on that media - i.e. 4x.

 

Why it didn't is anyones guess.

[Kakarotto]

Thanks for your help everyone, I really appreciate it.