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Bit late at night to be nutting this out but here goes.

 

The situation: I am getting one to a few errors on every burn lately, I don't normally verify but a disc that had playback issues got me back in the habit. I checked that disc with ImgBurn's verify option without an *.iso file and it read fine.

 

I recently got a new spindle of 16x MCC Verbatim DVD+R media, last 250 or so were 8x (recognised as 12x), I always burn at 8x. The first disc I noticed playback problems on was from this new spindle. I got a Pioneer DVR-112D to replace my trusty LG 4163B as I initially thought it might be getting a little tired. Same verification issues when using build mode cropped up. Am now using 112L firmware to see if there was an improvement and to regain -ROM bitsetting for +R SL but the issue remains. My backups are from RipIt4Me compressed with DVD Rebuilder 0.98.2 with HCenc 0.20.

 

My system is stable - have run 20 hours of large fft's in Orthos and 80 iterations of test 5 in Memtest86+. HDDs have passed SeaTools diagnostics.

 

Normally I just build from the VIDEO_TS output from DVD Rebuilder, so I didn't have an *.iso to compare. So I have included output from FCPro for comparison purposes.

 

Firstly, a relevant section of log...

 

; //****************************************\\
;   ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 - Log
;   Thursday, 03 May 2007, 20:22:01
; \\****************************************//
;
;
I 19:58:34 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 19:58:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 19:58:34 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB  -  Available: 655,976 KB
I 19:58:34 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:58:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:58:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM!
I 19:59:04 Operation Started!
I 19:59:04 Building Image Tree...
I 19:59:04 Checking Directory Depth...
I 19:59:04 Calculating Totals...
I 19:59:04 Preparing Image...
I 19:59:04 Checking Path Length...
I 19:59:04 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 19:59:04 Image Sectors: 2,268,528
I 19:59:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 20:00:57 Operation Started!
I 20:00:57 Building Image Tree...
I 20:00:57 Checking Directory Depth...
I 20:00:57 Calculating Totals...
I 20:00:57 Preparing Image...
I 20:00:57 Checking Path Length...
I 20:00:57 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:00:57 Image Sectors: 2,268,528
I 20:01:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03
I 20:01:01 Operation Started!
I 20:01:01 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 20:01:01 Source File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:01:01 Source File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:01:01 Source File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2
I 20:01:01 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:01:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:01:01 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:01:01 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 20:01:01 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 20:01:01 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 20:01:01 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:01:01 Write Type: DAO
I 20:01:01 Write Speed: 8x
I 20:01:01 Link Size: Auto
I 20:01:01 Test Mode: No
I 20:01:01 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:01:04 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 20:01:04 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:01:30 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2268527)
I 20:08:41 Synchronising Cache...
I 20:08:42 Closing Track...
I 20:08:45 Finalising Disc...
I 20:09:08 Image MD5: e9a10520f693c496572dd1dc9e902587
I 20:09:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:07
I 20:09:08 Average Write Rate: 10,551 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,447 KB/s (8.3x)
I 20:09:08 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 20:09:28 Device Ready!
I 20:09:28 Operation Started!
I 20:09:28 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 20:09:28 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 20:09:28 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 20:09:28 Image File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:09:28 Image File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:09:28 Image File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2
I 20:09:28 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:09:28 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:09:28 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:09:28 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2268527)
W 20:11:47 Miscompare at LBA: 293155, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
W 20:11:47 Device: 0x10
W 20:11:47 Image File: 0x00
W 20:11:47 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:11:47 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:13:34 Miscompare at LBA: 639880, Offset: 1932, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:13:34 Device: 0x50
W 20:13:34 Image File: 0x40
W 20:13:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:13:34 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:14:38 Miscompare at LBA: 815395, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:14:38 Device: 0xD1
W 20:14:38 Image File: 0xC1
W 20:14:38 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:14:38 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:16:17 Miscompare at LBA: 897315, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:16:17 Device: 0x92
W 20:16:17 Image File: 0x82
W 20:16:17 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:16:17 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:18:04 Miscompare at LBA: 1424628, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
W 20:18:04 Device: 0x44
W 20:18:04 Image File: 0x54
W 20:18:04 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:18:04 Verifying Sectors...
E 20:19:33 Miscompare at LBA: 1430410, Offset: 804, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
E 20:19:33 Device: 0x1B
E 20:19:33 Image File: 0x5B
E 20:19:33 Total Errors in Sector: 1
E 20:19:33 Failed to Verify Sectors!
E 20:19:33 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:10:04
I 20:19:33 Average Verify Rate: 4,736 KB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14,356 KB/s (10.4x)
I 20:22:01 Close Request Acknowledged
I 20:22:01 Closing Down...
I 20:22:01 Shutting down SPTI...
I 20:22:01 ImgBurn closed!

 

Here's the FCPro output comparing the burnt disc to the source folder ...

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  R___

1634648C: 00 10  0372532364:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

0087978C: 40 50  0008886156: @ P .... 1
15F46C8C: C1 D1  0368340108:     .... 2
1FF46C8C: 82 92  0536112268:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB

200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  ___A
200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  R___

01B71324: 5B 1B  0028775204: [   .... 1


==============================
Compared 20 files, 15 OK

         5 contents different
==============================

 

and here's what seems odd, the output comparing an ISO image (built from the same source) compared to source VIDEO_TS directory - mounted in Daemon Tools. Note differences in miscompared files ...

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

18,487,296  5-03-2007 1:29p  ___A
18,487,296  5-03-2007 1:29p  R___

00004C1C: 00 10  0000019484:     .... 1
00E6FC1C: 40 50  0015137820: @ P .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB

208,529,408  5-03-2007 1:29p  ___A
208,529,408  5-03-2007 1:29p  R___

00044C1C: A2 B2  0000281628:     .... 1
00844C1C: 82 92  0008670236:     .... 2
01BC4C1C: 61 71  0029117468: a q .... 3
01CC4C1C: A5 B5  0030166044:     .... 4
02844C1C: 04 14  0042224668:     .... 5
03BC4C1C: 00 10  0062671900:     .... 6
082C4C1C: A0 B0  0137120796:     .... 7
08C8848C: CC CD  0147358860:     .... 8
09AC4C1C: 40 50  0162286620: @ P .... 9
0A2C4C1C: 80 90  0170675228:     .... 10
0A4C4C1C: 43 53  0172772380: C S .... 11
0A644C1C: 42 52  0174345244: B R .... 12
0AB44C1C: 04 14  0179588124:     .... 13
0BAC4C1C: 47 57  0195841052: G W .... 14
0BB44C1C: 84 94  0196365340:     .... 15

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  R___

014E641C: 00 10  0021914652:     .... 1
02A6641C: 04 14  0044459036:     .... 2
0596641C: A4 B4  0093742108:     .... 3
070E641C: 60 70  0118383644: ` p .... 4
0716641C: 00 10  0118907932:     .... 5
071E641C: 43 53  0119432220: C S .... 6
07EE641C: 82 92  0133063708:     .... 7
0C8E641C: 00 10  0210658332:     .... 8
1126641C: 00 10  0287728668:     .... 9
11E6641C: A5 B5  0300311580:     .... 10
12C6641C: 62 72  0314991644: b r .... 11
1B4E641C: 06 16  0458122268:     .... 12
1B86641C: C1 D1  0461792284:     .... 13
20EE641C: 00 10  0552494108:     .... 14
24B6641C: 46 56  0615932956: F V .... 15
28DE641C: 46 56  0685663260: F V .... 16
2996641C: 80 90  0697721884:     .... 17
2C2E641C: 40 50  0741237788: @ P .... 18
2C56641C: C6 D6  0743859228:     .... 19
3626641C: C0 D0  0908485660:     .... 20
3B9E641C: 80 90  1000236060:     .... 21
3F0E641C: 85 95  1057907740:     .... 22

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

03D66C1C: A3 B3  0064384028:     .... 1
092E6C1C: 42 52  0154037276: B R .... 2
0A866C1C: C5 D5  0176581660:     .... 3
0B066C1C: 20 30  0184970268:   0 .... 4
219E6C1C: 26 36  0564030492: & 6 .... 5
25AE6C1C: C3 D3  0632187932:     .... 6
362E6C1C: 80 90  0909011996:     .... 7
36366C1C: E1 F1  0909536284:     .... 8
370E6C1C: 26 36  0923692060: & 6 .... 9

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB

525,191,168  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
525,191,168  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

18F6741C: E5 F5  0418804764:     .... 1
1986741C: 87 97  0428241948:     .... 2
1B56741C: C7 D7  0458650652:     .... 3
1ED6741C: C0 D0  0517370908:     .... 4
1F36741C: 42 52  0523662364: B R .... 5

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB

200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  ___A
200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  R___

0A6CF41C: 00 10  0174912540:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB

955,410,432  5-03-2007 1:39p  ___A
955,410,432  5-03-2007 1:39p  R___

053A641C: A4 B4  0087712796:     .... 1
0AFA641C: 00 10  0184181788:     .... 2
176A641C: 84 94  0392848412:     .... 3
19B2641C: 00 10  0431121436:     .... 4

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB

588,810,240  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
588,810,240  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

009CC41C: C0 D0  0010273820:     .... 1
0ADCC41C: 80 90  0182240284:     .... 2
172CC41C: 82 92  0388809756:     .... 3
1E1CC41C: 41 51  0505201692: A Q .... 4


==============================
Compared 20 files, 10 OK

        10 contents different
==============================

 

Any suggestions for the process of elimination to follow from this point?

Posted (edited)
Silly question: You haven't got AnyDVD running in the background, have you?

No, I don't have AnyDVD. Filter drivers loaded for the 112D/L are as follows:

----------------------------------------------------
Filter Driver Load Order     [url="http://www.bustrace.com"]http://www.bustrace.com[/url]
----------------------------------------------------

Upper Device Filter:  redbook
      Device Object:  PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L
 Lower Class Filter:  PxHelp20
 Lower Class Filter:  pfc
Lower Device Filter:  imapi

        Driver Name:  redbook.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Redbook Audio Filter Driver
       File Version:  5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
       Product Name:  Microsoft? Windows? Operating System
    Product Version:  5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
       Company Name:  Microsoft Corporation

        Driver Name:  pxhelp20.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
       File Version:  3.00.41a [3.0.41.0]
       Product Name:  PxHelp20
    Product Version:   [2.0.0.0]
       Company Name:  Sonic Solutions

        Driver Name:  pfc.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Padus? ASPI Shell
       File Version:  2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
       Product Name:  Padus? ASPI Shell
    Product Version:  2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
       Company Name:  Padus, Inc.

        Driver Name:  imapi.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  IMAPI Kernel Driver
       File Version:  5.1.2600.2714 (xpsp.050705-1524) [5.1.2600.2714]
       Product Name:  Microsoft? Windows? Operating System
    Product Version:  5.1.2600.2714 [5.1.2600.2714]
       Company Name:  Microsoft Corporation

 

edit: hmm, wondering what app pxhelp20.sys came in with, seems to be some conflicting info on if it's a Windows or Sonic component (I don't think I've got anything related to Sonic installed).

Edited by rhy7s
Posted

Something odd for sure. Had another try at pinning down the culprit: ripped another DVD to C: (ATA), built iso image on C: (the last few burns have all been from C:) & mounted to Daemon Tools, built another iso image on D: (SATA), binary comparison of iso on C: to source files only miscompares were VIDEO_TS.BUP and VIDEO_TS.IFO - which is expected, comparing the iso on D: to the source files resulted in an additional 3 miscompared files (VTS_01_2, 3 & 4). Did another extended scan of my drives with SeaTools diagnostics, both drives passed. I upgraded SPTD.SYS to 1.45 beta, compared iso on D: again with the same result as the first. Built the image to D: again seeing as I had updated SPTD, the md5 of the new image was different to that of the old one on D: - but also different to the image on C:.

 

fcpro - iso on C: to source on C:

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2


=============================
Compared 9 files, 7 OK

        2 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - iso on D: to source on C:

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

280724BC: 00 20  0671556796:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

0FF51C3C: 65 E5  0267721788: e   .... 1
1305DC34: 3C 3E  0319151156: < > .... 2
302DB1AC: 20 A0  0808300972:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

18810CBC: 87 A7  0411110588:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 4 OK

        5 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - iso on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45)

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

280724BC: 00 20  0671556796:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

0FF51C3C: 65 E5  0267721788: e   .... 1
1305DC34: 3C 3E  0319151156: < > .... 2
302DB1AC: 20 A0  0808300972:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

18810CBC: 87 A7  0411110588:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 4 OK

        5 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 1st run

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

09544B04: 3D 1D  0156519172: =   .... 1
0C6B1394: 36 37  0208343956: 6 7 .... 2
255ED614: A0 A1  0626972180:     .... 3
299B9394: 5C 5D  0698061716: \ ] .... 4
2E9C9394: 4E 4F  0782013332: N O .... 5

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

0CC9DCA4: E1 E5  0214555812:     .... 1
10004B04: F7 D7  0268454660:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

142BCB04: 63 43  0338414340: c C .... 1
1781CB04: 26 06  0394382084: &   .... 2
29054B04: 7D 5D  0688212740: } ] .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

1280CB04: B1 91  0310430468:     .... 1
1BAD4B04: FF DF  0464341764:     .... 2
2183CB04: 26 06  0562285316: &   .... 3


=============================
Compared 9 files, 3 OK

        6 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 2nd run

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

255ED614: A0 A1  0626972180:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

0CC9DCA4: E1 E5  0214555812:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 5 OK

        4 contents different
=============================

 

now it seems very odd that different result were obtained not only between SPTD versions but also between runs on the same version. Anyone have some more ideas?

Posted

Thanks dontasciime, I haven't chkdsk'ed in a while, it picked up some errors on C:, none on D:. Created another image on D: and this time it only has the changes ImgBurn makes to the ifo and bup files, so the same behaviour as the image previously built on C: (though not the same md5).

Posted (edited)

Hmm, burnt two backups without errors since chkdsk, the third disc though is getting the same old miscompare errors, is there a rule of thumb to how many errors could be deemed acceptable seeing as DVD video playback isn't absolutely reliant on the data being correct?

 

I 12:26:31 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 12:26:31 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 12:26:31 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB  -  Available: 716,744 KB
I 12:26:31 Initialising SPTI...
I 12:26:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:26:32 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM!
I 12:26:52 Operation Started!
I 12:26:52 Building Image Tree...
I 12:26:52 Checking Directory Depth...
I 12:26:52 Calculating Totals...
I 12:26:52 Preparing Image...
I 12:26:52 Checking Path Length...
I 12:26:52 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:26:52 Image Sectors: 2,264,560
I 12:26:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 12:27:10 Operation Started!
I 12:27:10 Building Image Tree...
I 12:27:10 Checking Directory Depth...
I 12:27:10 Calculating Totals...
I 12:27:10 Preparing Image...
I 12:27:10 Checking Path Length...
I 12:27:10 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:27:10 Image Sectors: 2,264,560
I 12:27:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 12:27:12 Operation Started!
I 12:27:12 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 12:27:12 Source File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:27:12 Source File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:27:12 Source File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON
I 12:27:12 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 12:27:12 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:27:12 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 12:27:12 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 12:27:12 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 12:27:12 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 12:27:12 Write Mode: DVD
I 12:27:12 Write Type: DAO
I 12:27:12 Write Speed: 8x
I 12:27:12 Link Size: Auto
I 12:27:12 Test Mode: No
I 12:27:12 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 12:27:12 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 12:27:13 Writing LeadIn...
I 12:27:38 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2264559)
I 12:34:48 Synchronising Cache...
I 12:34:49 Closing Track...
I 12:34:52 Finalising Disc...
I 12:35:17 Image MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d
I 12:35:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:04
I 12:35:17 Average Write Rate: 10,532 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,469 KB/s (8.3x)
I 12:35:17 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 12:35:36 Device Ready!
I 12:35:36 Operation Started!
I 12:35:36 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 12:35:36 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 12:35:36 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 12:35:36 Image File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:35:36 Image File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:35:36 Image File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON
I 12:35:36 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 12:35:36 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:35:36 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 12:35:36 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2264559)
W 12:50:34 Miscompare at LBA: 463272, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
W 12:50:34 Device: 0x02
W 12:50:34 Image File: 0x12
W 12:50:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:50:34 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:07 Miscompare at LBA: 587376, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:07 Device: 0x11
W 12:51:07 Image File: 0x01
W 12:51:07 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:07 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:24 Miscompare at LBA: 638576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:24 Device: 0x52
W 12:51:24 Image File: 0x42
W 12:51:24 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:24 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:36 Miscompare at LBA: 700016, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:36 Device: 0xD2
W 12:51:36 Image File: 0xC2
W 12:51:36 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:36 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:52:18 Miscompare at LBA: 894576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:52:18 Device: 0x90
W 12:52:18 Image File: 0x80
W 12:52:18 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:52:18 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:54:10 Miscompare at LBA: 1594638, Offset: 772, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
W 12:54:10 Device: 0xCA
W 12:54:10 Image File: 0xCB
W 12:54:10 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:54:10 Verifying Sectors...
I 12:55:35 Device MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d
I 12:55:35 Image MD5: f91eeb4b8e5337293c87e7565d5b1ece
I 12:55:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:59
I 12:55:35 Average Verify Rate: 3,780 KB/s (2.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,224 KB/s (12.4x)

 

edit: Have completed another chkdsk without errors, and am a few passes into memtest86+ at the moment also without errors. Is there any other sub-system or system level diagnostics I should be running?

Edited by rhy7s
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