rhy7s Posted May 3, 2007 Posted May 3, 2007 Bit late at night to be nutting this out but here goes. The situation: I am getting one to a few errors on every burn lately, I don't normally verify but a disc that had playback issues got me back in the habit. I checked that disc with ImgBurn's verify option without an *.iso file and it read fine. I recently got a new spindle of 16x MCC Verbatim DVD+R media, last 250 or so were 8x (recognised as 12x), I always burn at 8x. The first disc I noticed playback problems on was from this new spindle. I got a Pioneer DVR-112D to replace my trusty LG 4163B as I initially thought it might be getting a little tired. Same verification issues when using build mode cropped up. Am now using 112L firmware to see if there was an improvement and to regain -ROM bitsetting for +R SL but the issue remains. My backups are from RipIt4Me compressed with DVD Rebuilder 0.98.2 with HCenc 0.20. My system is stable - have run 20 hours of large fft's in Orthos and 80 iterations of test 5 in Memtest86+. HDDs have passed SeaTools diagnostics. Normally I just build from the VIDEO_TS output from DVD Rebuilder, so I didn't have an *.iso to compare. So I have included output from FCPro for comparison purposes. Firstly, a relevant section of log... ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 - Log ; Thursday, 03 May 2007, 20:22:01 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 19:58:34 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 19:58:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 19:58:34 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB - Available: 655,976 KB I 19:58:34 Initialising SPTI... I 19:58:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:58:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM! I 19:59:04 Operation Started! I 19:59:04 Building Image Tree... I 19:59:04 Checking Directory Depth... I 19:59:04 Calculating Totals... I 19:59:04 Preparing Image... I 19:59:04 Checking Path Length... I 19:59:04 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes I 19:59:04 Image Sectors: 2,268,528 I 19:59:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 20:00:57 Operation Started! I 20:00:57 Building Image Tree... I 20:00:57 Checking Directory Depth... I 20:00:57 Calculating Totals... I 20:00:57 Preparing Image... I 20:00:57 Checking Path Length... I 20:00:57 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes I 20:00:57 Image Sectors: 2,268,528 I 20:01:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03 I 20:01:01 Operation Started! I 20:01:01 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:01:01 Source File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048) I 20:01:01 Source File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes I 20:01:01 Source File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2 I 20:01:01 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 20:01:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 20:01:01 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:01:01 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA) I 20:01:01 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 20:01:01 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 20:01:01 Write Mode: DVD I 20:01:01 Write Type: DAO I 20:01:01 Write Speed: 8x I 20:01:01 Link Size: Auto I 20:01:01 Test Mode: No I 20:01:01 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:01:04 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 20:01:04 Writing LeadIn... I 20:01:30 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2268527) I 20:08:41 Synchronising Cache... I 20:08:42 Closing Track... I 20:08:45 Finalising Disc... I 20:09:08 Image MD5: e9a10520f693c496572dd1dc9e902587 I 20:09:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:07 I 20:09:08 Average Write Rate: 10,551 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,447 KB/s (8.3x) I 20:09:08 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 20:09:28 Device Ready! I 20:09:28 Operation Started! I 20:09:28 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA) I 20:09:28 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 20:09:28 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:09:28 Image File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048) I 20:09:28 Image File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes I 20:09:28 Image File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2 I 20:09:28 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 20:09:28 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 20:09:28 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:09:28 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2268527) W 20:11:47 Miscompare at LBA: 293155, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB W 20:11:47 Device: 0x10 W 20:11:47 Image File: 0x00 W 20:11:47 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 20:11:47 Verifying Sectors... W 20:13:34 Miscompare at LBA: 639880, Offset: 1932, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB W 20:13:34 Device: 0x50 W 20:13:34 Image File: 0x40 W 20:13:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 20:13:34 Verifying Sectors... W 20:14:38 Miscompare at LBA: 815395, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB W 20:14:38 Device: 0xD1 W 20:14:38 Image File: 0xC1 W 20:14:38 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 20:14:38 Verifying Sectors... W 20:16:17 Miscompare at LBA: 897315, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB W 20:16:17 Device: 0x92 W 20:16:17 Image File: 0x82 W 20:16:17 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 20:16:17 Verifying Sectors... W 20:18:04 Miscompare at LBA: 1424628, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB W 20:18:04 Device: 0x44 W 20:18:04 Image File: 0x54 W 20:18:04 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 20:18:04 Verifying Sectors... E 20:19:33 Miscompare at LBA: 1430410, Offset: 804, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB E 20:19:33 Device: 0x1B E 20:19:33 Image File: 0x5B E 20:19:33 Total Errors in Sector: 1 E 20:19:33 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 20:19:33 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:10:04 I 20:19:33 Average Verify Rate: 4,736 KB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14,356 KB/s (10.4x) I 20:22:01 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:22:01 Closing Down... I 20:22:01 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:22:01 ImgBurn closed! Here's the FCPro output comparing the burnt disc to the source folder ... C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p ___A 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p R___ 0000000F: 0B 1B 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 0C 1C 0000002067: .... 2 0000081F: 5B 6B 0000002079: [ k .... 3 0000082B: 5B 6B 0000002091: [ k .... 4 00000837: 5B 6B 0000002103: [ k .... 5 00000843: 5B 6B 0000002115: [ k .... 6 0000084F: 5B 6B 0000002127: [ k .... 7 0000085B: 5B 6B 0000002139: [ k .... 8 00000867: 5B 6B 0000002151: [ k .... 9 00000873: 5B 6B 0000002163: [ k .... 10 0000087F: 5B 6B 0000002175: [ k .... 11 0000088B: 5B 6B 0000002187: [ k .... 12 00000897: 5B 6B 0000002199: [ k .... 13 000008A3: 5B 6B 0000002211: [ k .... 14 000008AF: 5B 6B 0000002223: [ k .... 15 000008BB: 5B 6B 0000002235: [ k .... 16 000008C7: 5B 6B 0000002247: [ k .... 17 000008D3: 5B 6B 0000002259: [ k .... 18 000008DF: 69 79 0000002271: i y .... 19 000008EB: 6D 7D 0000002283: m } .... 20 000008F7: 6D 7D 0000002295: m } .... 21 00000903: 6D 7D 0000002307: m } .... 22 0000090E: 38 39 0000002318: 8 9 .... 23 0000090F: F8 08 0000002319: .... 24 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p ___A 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p R___ 0000000F: 0B 1B 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 0C 1C 0000002067: .... 2 0000081F: 5B 6B 0000002079: [ k .... 3 0000082B: 5B 6B 0000002091: [ k .... 4 00000837: 5B 6B 0000002103: [ k .... 5 00000843: 5B 6B 0000002115: [ k .... 6 0000084F: 5B 6B 0000002127: [ k .... 7 0000085B: 5B 6B 0000002139: [ k .... 8 00000867: 5B 6B 0000002151: [ k .... 9 00000873: 5B 6B 0000002163: [ k .... 10 0000087F: 5B 6B 0000002175: [ k .... 11 0000088B: 5B 6B 0000002187: [ k .... 12 00000897: 5B 6B 0000002199: [ k .... 13 000008A3: 5B 6B 0000002211: [ k .... 14 000008AF: 5B 6B 0000002223: [ k .... 15 000008BB: 5B 6B 0000002235: [ k .... 16 000008C7: 5B 6B 0000002247: [ k .... 17 000008D3: 5B 6B 0000002259: [ k .... 18 000008DF: 69 79 0000002271: i y .... 19 000008EB: 6D 7D 0000002283: m } .... 20 000008F7: 6D 7D 0000002295: m } .... 21 00000903: 6D 7D 0000002307: m } .... 22 0000090E: 38 39 0000002318: 8 9 .... 23 0000090F: F8 08 0000002319: .... 24 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:32p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:32p R___ 1634648C: 00 10 0372532364: .... 1 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:35p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:35p R___ 0087978C: 40 50 0008886156: @ P .... 1 15F46C8C: C1 D1 0368340108: .... 2 1FF46C8C: 82 92 0536112268: .... 3 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB 200,757,248 5-03-2007 1:36p ___A 200,757,248 5-03-2007 1:36p R___ 01B71324: 5B 1B 0028775204: [ .... 1 ============================== Compared 20 files, 15 OK 5 contents different ============================== and here's what seems odd, the output comparing an ISO image (built from the same source) compared to source VIDEO_TS directory - mounted in Daemon Tools. Note differences in miscompared files ... C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p ___A 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p R___ 0000000F: 0B 1B 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 0C 1C 0000002067: .... 2 0000081F: 5B 6B 0000002079: [ k .... 3 0000082B: 5B 6B 0000002091: [ k .... 4 00000837: 5B 6B 0000002103: [ k .... 5 00000843: 5B 6B 0000002115: [ k .... 6 0000084F: 5B 6B 0000002127: [ k .... 7 0000085B: 5B 6B 0000002139: [ k .... 8 00000867: 5B 6B 0000002151: [ k .... 9 00000873: 5B 6B 0000002163: [ k .... 10 0000087F: 5B 6B 0000002175: [ k .... 11 0000088B: 5B 6B 0000002187: [ k .... 12 00000897: 5B 6B 0000002199: [ k .... 13 000008A3: 5B 6B 0000002211: [ k .... 14 000008AF: 5B 6B 0000002223: [ k .... 15 000008BB: 5B 6B 0000002235: [ k .... 16 000008C7: 5B 6B 0000002247: [ k .... 17 000008D3: 5B 6B 0000002259: [ k .... 18 000008DF: 69 79 0000002271: i y .... 19 000008EB: 6D 7D 0000002283: m } .... 20 000008F7: 6D 7D 0000002295: m } .... 21 00000903: 6D 7D 0000002307: m } .... 22 0000090E: 38 39 0000002318: 8 9 .... 23 0000090F: F8 08 0000002319: .... 24 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p ___A 12,288 5-03-2007 1:41p R___ 0000000F: 0B 1B 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 0C 1C 0000002067: .... 2 0000081F: 5B 6B 0000002079: [ k .... 3 0000082B: 5B 6B 0000002091: [ k .... 4 00000837: 5B 6B 0000002103: [ k .... 5 00000843: 5B 6B 0000002115: [ k .... 6 0000084F: 5B 6B 0000002127: [ k .... 7 0000085B: 5B 6B 0000002139: [ k .... 8 00000867: 5B 6B 0000002151: [ k .... 9 00000873: 5B 6B 0000002163: [ k .... 10 0000087F: 5B 6B 0000002175: [ k .... 11 0000088B: 5B 6B 0000002187: [ k .... 12 00000897: 5B 6B 0000002199: [ k .... 13 000008A3: 5B 6B 0000002211: [ k .... 14 000008AF: 5B 6B 0000002223: [ k .... 15 000008BB: 5B 6B 0000002235: [ k .... 16 000008C7: 5B 6B 0000002247: [ k .... 17 000008D3: 5B 6B 0000002259: [ k .... 18 000008DF: 69 79 0000002271: i y .... 19 000008EB: 6D 7D 0000002283: m } .... 20 000008F7: 6D 7D 0000002295: m } .... 21 00000903: 6D 7D 0000002307: m } .... 22 0000090E: 38 39 0000002318: 8 9 .... 23 0000090F: F8 08 0000002319: .... 24 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB 18,487,296 5-03-2007 1:29p ___A 18,487,296 5-03-2007 1:29p R___ 00004C1C: 00 10 0000019484: .... 1 00E6FC1C: 40 50 0015137820: @ P .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB 208,529,408 5-03-2007 1:29p ___A 208,529,408 5-03-2007 1:29p R___ 00044C1C: A2 B2 0000281628: .... 1 00844C1C: 82 92 0008670236: .... 2 01BC4C1C: 61 71 0029117468: a q .... 3 01CC4C1C: A5 B5 0030166044: .... 4 02844C1C: 04 14 0042224668: .... 5 03BC4C1C: 00 10 0062671900: .... 6 082C4C1C: A0 B0 0137120796: .... 7 08C8848C: CC CD 0147358860: .... 8 09AC4C1C: 40 50 0162286620: @ P .... 9 0A2C4C1C: 80 90 0170675228: .... 10 0A4C4C1C: 43 53 0172772380: C S .... 11 0A644C1C: 42 52 0174345244: B R .... 12 0AB44C1C: 04 14 0179588124: .... 13 0BAC4C1C: 47 57 0195841052: G W .... 14 0BB44C1C: 84 94 0196365340: .... 15 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:32p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:32p R___ 014E641C: 00 10 0021914652: .... 1 02A6641C: 04 14 0044459036: .... 2 0596641C: A4 B4 0093742108: .... 3 070E641C: 60 70 0118383644: ` p .... 4 0716641C: 00 10 0118907932: .... 5 071E641C: 43 53 0119432220: C S .... 6 07EE641C: 82 92 0133063708: .... 7 0C8E641C: 00 10 0210658332: .... 8 1126641C: 00 10 0287728668: .... 9 11E6641C: A5 B5 0300311580: .... 10 12C6641C: 62 72 0314991644: b r .... 11 1B4E641C: 06 16 0458122268: .... 12 1B86641C: C1 D1 0461792284: .... 13 20EE641C: 00 10 0552494108: .... 14 24B6641C: 46 56 0615932956: F V .... 15 28DE641C: 46 56 0685663260: F V .... 16 2996641C: 80 90 0697721884: .... 17 2C2E641C: 40 50 0741237788: @ P .... 18 2C56641C: C6 D6 0743859228: .... 19 3626641C: C0 D0 0908485660: .... 20 3B9E641C: 80 90 1000236060: .... 21 3F0E641C: 85 95 1057907740: .... 22 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:35p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-03-2007 1:35p R___ 03D66C1C: A3 B3 0064384028: .... 1 092E6C1C: 42 52 0154037276: B R .... 2 0A866C1C: C5 D5 0176581660: .... 3 0B066C1C: 20 30 0184970268: 0 .... 4 219E6C1C: 26 36 0564030492: & 6 .... 5 25AE6C1C: C3 D3 0632187932: .... 6 362E6C1C: 80 90 0909011996: .... 7 36366C1C: E1 F1 0909536284: .... 8 370E6C1C: 26 36 0923692060: & 6 .... 9 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB 525,191,168 5-03-2007 1:35p ___A 525,191,168 5-03-2007 1:35p R___ 18F6741C: E5 F5 0418804764: .... 1 1986741C: 87 97 0428241948: .... 2 1B56741C: C7 D7 0458650652: .... 3 1ED6741C: C0 D0 0517370908: .... 4 1F36741C: 42 52 0523662364: B R .... 5 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB 200,757,248 5-03-2007 1:36p ___A 200,757,248 5-03-2007 1:36p R___ 0A6CF41C: 00 10 0174912540: .... 1 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB 955,410,432 5-03-2007 1:39p ___A 955,410,432 5-03-2007 1:39p R___ 053A641C: A4 B4 0087712796: .... 1 0AFA641C: 00 10 0184181788: .... 2 176A641C: 84 94 0392848412: .... 3 19B2641C: 00 10 0431121436: .... 4 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB 588,810,240 5-03-2007 1:41p ___A 588,810,240 5-03-2007 1:41p R___ 009CC41C: C0 D0 0010273820: .... 1 0ADCC41C: 80 90 0182240284: .... 2 172CC41C: 82 92 0388809756: .... 3 1E1CC41C: 41 51 0505201692: A Q .... 4 ============================== Compared 20 files, 10 OK 10 contents different ============================== Any suggestions for the process of elimination to follow from this point?
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted May 3, 2007 Posted May 3, 2007 Silly question: You haven't got AnyDVD running in the background, have you?
rhy7s Posted May 3, 2007 Author Posted May 3, 2007 (edited) Silly question: You haven't got AnyDVD running in the background, have you? No, I don't have AnyDVD. Filter drivers loaded for the 112D/L are as follows: ---------------------------------------------------- Filter Driver Load Order [url="http://www.bustrace.com"]http://www.bustrace.com[/url] ---------------------------------------------------- Upper Device Filter: redbook Device Object: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20 Lower Class Filter: pfc Lower Device Filter: imapi Driver Name: redbook.sys File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180] Product Name: Microsoft? Windows? Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180] Company Name: Microsoft Corporation Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP File Version: 3.00.41a [3.0.41.0] Product Name: PxHelp20 Product Version: [2.0.0.0] Company Name: Sonic Solutions Driver Name: pfc.sys File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers File Description: Padus? ASPI Shell File Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204] Product Name: Padus? ASPI Shell Product Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204] Company Name: Padus, Inc. Driver Name: imapi.sys File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver File Version: 5.1.2600.2714 (xpsp.050705-1524) [5.1.2600.2714] Product Name: Microsoft? Windows? Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.2714 [5.1.2600.2714] Company Name: Microsoft Corporation edit: hmm, wondering what app pxhelp20.sys came in with, seems to be some conflicting info on if it's a Windows or Sonic component (I don't think I've got anything related to Sonic installed). Edited May 3, 2007 by rhy7s
rhy7s Posted May 3, 2007 Author Posted May 3, 2007 Nah, don't have Winamp either, I use foobar2000 and musikCube.
rhy7s Posted May 4, 2007 Author Posted May 4, 2007 Something odd for sure. Had another try at pinning down the culprit: ripped another DVD to C: (ATA), built iso image on C: (the last few burns have all been from C:) & mounted to Daemon Tools, built another iso image on D: (SATA), binary comparison of iso on C: to source files only miscompares were VIDEO_TS.BUP and VIDEO_TS.IFO - which is expected, comparing the iso on D: to the source files resulted in an additional 3 miscompared files (VTS_01_2, 3 & 4). Did another extended scan of my drives with SeaTools diagnostics, both drives passed. I upgraded SPTD.SYS to 1.45 beta, compared iso on D: again with the same result as the first. Built the image to D: again seeing as I had updated SPTD, the md5 of the new image was different to that of the old one on D: - but also different to the image on C:. fcpro - iso on C: to source on C: C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 ============================= Compared 9 files, 7 OK 2 contents different ============================= fcpro - iso on D: to source on C: C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 280724BC: 00 20 0671556796: .... 1 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p R___ 0FF51C3C: 65 E5 0267721788: e .... 1 1305DC34: 3C 3E 0319151156: < > .... 2 302DB1AC: 20 A0 0808300972: .... 3 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p R___ 18810CBC: 87 A7 0411110588: .... 1 ============================= Compared 9 files, 4 OK 5 contents different ============================= fcpro - iso on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 280724BC: 00 20 0671556796: .... 1 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p R___ 0FF51C3C: 65 E5 0267721788: e .... 1 1305DC34: 3C 3E 0319151156: < > .... 2 302DB1AC: 20 A0 0808300972: .... 3 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p R___ 18810CBC: 87 A7 0411110588: .... 1 ============================= Compared 9 files, 4 OK 5 contents different ============================= fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 1st run C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 09544B04: 3D 1D 0156519172: = .... 1 0C6B1394: 36 37 0208343956: 6 7 .... 2 255ED614: A0 A1 0626972180: .... 3 299B9394: 5C 5D 0698061716: \ ] .... 4 2E9C9394: 4E 4F 0782013332: N O .... 5 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 0CC9DCA4: E1 E5 0214555812: .... 1 10004B04: F7 D7 0268454660: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:38p R___ 142BCB04: 63 43 0338414340: c C .... 1 1781CB04: 26 06 0394382084: & .... 2 29054B04: 7D 5D 0688212740: } ] .... 3 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:39p R___ 1280CB04: B1 91 0310430468: .... 1 1BAD4B04: FF DF 0464341764: .... 2 2183CB04: 26 06 0562285316: & .... 3 ============================= Compared 9 files, 3 OK 6 contents different ============================= fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 2nd run C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p ___A 6,144 5-04-2007 2:29p R___ 0000000F: 05 15 0000000015: .... 1 00000813: 06 16 0000002067: .... 2 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 255ED614: A0 A1 0626972180: .... 1 C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p ___A 1,073,739,776 5-04-2007 2:34p R___ 0CC9DCA4: E1 E5 0214555812: .... 1 ============================= Compared 9 files, 5 OK 4 contents different ============================= now it seems very odd that different result were obtained not only between SPTD versions but also between runs on the same version. Anyone have some more ideas?
dontasciime Posted May 4, 2007 Posted May 4, 2007 have you scanned C: for file system errors (not using hd manufacturer's tools) just the normal windows xp one
rhy7s Posted May 5, 2007 Author Posted May 5, 2007 Thanks dontasciime, I haven't chkdsk'ed in a while, it picked up some errors on C:, none on D:. Created another image on D: and this time it only has the changes ImgBurn makes to the ifo and bup files, so the same behaviour as the image previously built on C: (though not the same md5).
rhy7s Posted May 6, 2007 Author Posted May 6, 2007 (edited) Hmm, burnt two backups without errors since chkdsk, the third disc though is getting the same old miscompare errors, is there a rule of thumb to how many errors could be deemed acceptable seeing as DVD video playback isn't absolutely reliant on the data being correct? I 12:26:31 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 12:26:31 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:26:31 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB - Available: 716,744 KB I 12:26:31 Initialising SPTI... I 12:26:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:26:32 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM! I 12:26:52 Operation Started! I 12:26:52 Building Image Tree... I 12:26:52 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:26:52 Calculating Totals... I 12:26:52 Preparing Image... I 12:26:52 Checking Path Length... I 12:26:52 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes I 12:26:52 Image Sectors: 2,264,560 I 12:26:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 12:27:10 Operation Started! I 12:27:10 Building Image Tree... I 12:27:10 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:27:10 Calculating Totals... I 12:27:10 Preparing Image... I 12:27:10 Checking Path Length... I 12:27:10 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes I 12:27:10 Image Sectors: 2,264,560 I 12:27:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02 I 12:27:12 Operation Started! I 12:27:12 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:27:12 Source File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048) I 12:27:12 Source File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes I 12:27:12 Source File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON I 12:27:12 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 12:27:12 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:27:12 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:27:12 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA) I 12:27:12 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 12:27:12 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 12:27:12 Write Mode: DVD I 12:27:12 Write Type: DAO I 12:27:12 Write Speed: 8x I 12:27:12 Link Size: Auto I 12:27:12 Test Mode: No I 12:27:12 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:27:12 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 12:27:13 Writing LeadIn... I 12:27:38 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2264559) I 12:34:48 Synchronising Cache... I 12:34:49 Closing Track... I 12:34:52 Finalising Disc... I 12:35:17 Image MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d I 12:35:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:04 I 12:35:17 Average Write Rate: 10,532 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,469 KB/s (8.3x) I 12:35:17 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 12:35:36 Device Ready! I 12:35:36 Operation Started! I 12:35:36 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA) I 12:35:36 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 12:35:36 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:35:36 Image File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048) I 12:35:36 Image File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes I 12:35:36 Image File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON I 12:35:36 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 12:35:36 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:35:36 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:35:36 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2264559) W 12:50:34 Miscompare at LBA: 463272, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB W 12:50:34 Device: 0x02 W 12:50:34 Image File: 0x12 W 12:50:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:50:34 Verifying Sectors... W 12:51:07 Miscompare at LBA: 587376, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB W 12:51:07 Device: 0x11 W 12:51:07 Image File: 0x01 W 12:51:07 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:51:07 Verifying Sectors... W 12:51:24 Miscompare at LBA: 638576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB W 12:51:24 Device: 0x52 W 12:51:24 Image File: 0x42 W 12:51:24 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:51:24 Verifying Sectors... W 12:51:36 Miscompare at LBA: 700016, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB W 12:51:36 Device: 0xD2 W 12:51:36 Image File: 0xC2 W 12:51:36 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:51:36 Verifying Sectors... W 12:52:18 Miscompare at LBA: 894576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB W 12:52:18 Device: 0x90 W 12:52:18 Image File: 0x80 W 12:52:18 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:52:18 Verifying Sectors... W 12:54:10 Miscompare at LBA: 1594638, Offset: 772, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB W 12:54:10 Device: 0xCA W 12:54:10 Image File: 0xCB W 12:54:10 Total Errors in Sector: 1 I 12:54:10 Verifying Sectors... I 12:55:35 Device MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d I 12:55:35 Image MD5: f91eeb4b8e5337293c87e7565d5b1ece I 12:55:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:59 I 12:55:35 Average Verify Rate: 3,780 KB/s (2.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,224 KB/s (12.4x) edit: Have completed another chkdsk without errors, and am a few passes into memtest86+ at the moment also without errors. Is there any other sub-system or system level diagnostics I should be running? Edited May 6, 2007 by rhy7s
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