Odd verification errors

[rhy7s]

Bit late at night to be nutting this out but here goes.

 

The situation: I am getting one to a few errors on every burn lately, I don't normally verify but a disc that had playback issues got me back in the habit. I checked that disc with ImgBurn's verify option without an *.iso file and it read fine.

 

I recently got a new spindle of 16x MCC Verbatim DVD+R media, last 250 or so were 8x (recognised as 12x), I always burn at 8x. The first disc I noticed playback problems on was from this new spindle. I got a Pioneer DVR-112D to replace my trusty LG 4163B as I initially thought it might be getting a little tired. Same verification issues when using build mode cropped up. Am now using 112L firmware to see if there was an improvement and to regain -ROM bitsetting for +R SL but the issue remains. My backups are from RipIt4Me compressed with DVD Rebuilder 0.98.2 with HCenc 0.20.

 

My system is stable - have run 20 hours of large fft's in Orthos and 80 iterations of test 5 in Memtest86+. HDDs have passed SeaTools diagnostics.

 

Normally I just build from the VIDEO_TS output from DVD Rebuilder, so I didn't have an *.iso to compare. So I have included output from FCPro for comparison purposes.

 

Firstly, a relevant section of log...

 

; //****************************************\\
;   ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 - Log
;   Thursday, 03 May 2007, 20:22:01
; \\****************************************//
;
;
I 19:58:34 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 19:58:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 19:58:34 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB  -  Available: 655,976 KB
I 19:58:34 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:58:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:58:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM!
I 19:59:04 Operation Started!
I 19:59:04 Building Image Tree...
I 19:59:04 Checking Directory Depth...
I 19:59:04 Calculating Totals...
I 19:59:04 Preparing Image...
I 19:59:04 Checking Path Length...
I 19:59:04 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 19:59:04 Image Sectors: 2,268,528
I 19:59:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 20:00:57 Operation Started!
I 20:00:57 Building Image Tree...
I 20:00:57 Checking Directory Depth...
I 20:00:57 Calculating Totals...
I 20:00:57 Preparing Image...
I 20:00:57 Checking Path Length...
I 20:00:57 Image Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:00:57 Image Sectors: 2,268,528
I 20:01:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03
I 20:01:01 Operation Started!
I 20:01:01 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 20:01:01 Source File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:01:01 Source File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:01:01 Source File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2
I 20:01:01 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:01:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:01:01 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:01:01 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 20:01:01 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 20:01:01 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 20:01:01 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:01:01 Write Type: DAO
I 20:01:01 Write Speed: 8x
I 20:01:01 Link Size: Auto
I 20:01:01 Test Mode: No
I 20:01:01 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:01:04 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 20:01:04 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:01:30 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2268527)
I 20:08:41 Synchronising Cache...
I 20:08:42 Closing Track...
I 20:08:45 Finalising Disc...
I 20:09:08 Image MD5: e9a10520f693c496572dd1dc9e902587
I 20:09:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:07
I 20:09:08 Average Write Rate: 10,551 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,447 KB/s (8.3x)
I 20:09:08 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 20:09:28 Device Ready!
I 20:09:28 Operation Started!
I 20:09:28 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 20:09:28 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 20:09:28 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 20:09:28 Image File Sectors: 2,268,528 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:09:28 Image File Size: 4,645,945,344 bytes
I 20:09:28 Image File Volume Identifier: LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2
I 20:09:28 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:09:28 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:09:28 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:09:28 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2268527)
W 20:11:47 Miscompare at LBA: 293155, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
W 20:11:47 Device: 0x10
W 20:11:47 Image File: 0x00
W 20:11:47 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:11:47 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:13:34 Miscompare at LBA: 639880, Offset: 1932, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:13:34 Device: 0x50
W 20:13:34 Image File: 0x40
W 20:13:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:13:34 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:14:38 Miscompare at LBA: 815395, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:14:38 Device: 0xD1
W 20:14:38 Image File: 0xC1
W 20:14:38 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:14:38 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:16:17 Miscompare at LBA: 897315, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
W 20:16:17 Device: 0x92
W 20:16:17 Image File: 0x82
W 20:16:17 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:16:17 Verifying Sectors...
W 20:18:04 Miscompare at LBA: 1424628, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
W 20:18:04 Device: 0x44
W 20:18:04 Image File: 0x54
W 20:18:04 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 20:18:04 Verifying Sectors...
E 20:19:33 Miscompare at LBA: 1430410, Offset: 804, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
E 20:19:33 Device: 0x1B
E 20:19:33 Image File: 0x5B
E 20:19:33 Total Errors in Sector: 1
E 20:19:33 Failed to Verify Sectors!
E 20:19:33 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:10:04
I 20:19:33 Average Verify Rate: 4,736 KB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14,356 KB/s (10.4x)
I 20:22:01 Close Request Acknowledged
I 20:22:01 Closing Down...
I 20:22:01 Shutting down SPTI...
I 20:22:01 ImgBurn closed!

 

Here's the FCPro output comparing the burnt disc to the source folder ...

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  R___

1634648C: 00 10  0372532364:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

0087978C: 40 50  0008886156: @ P .... 1
15F46C8C: C1 D1  0368340108:     .... 2
1FF46C8C: 82 92  0536112268:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Y:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB

200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  ___A
200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  R___

01B71324: 5B 1B  0028775204: [   .... 1


==============================
Compared 20 files, 15 OK

         5 contents different
==============================

 

and here's what seems odd, the output comparing an ISO image (built from the same source) compared to source VIDEO_TS directory - mounted in Daemon Tools. Note differences in miscompared files ...

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
12,288  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

0000000F: 0B 1B  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 0C 1C  0000002067:     .... 2
0000081F: 5B 6B  0000002079: [ k .... 3
0000082B: 5B 6B  0000002091: [ k .... 4
00000837: 5B 6B  0000002103: [ k .... 5
00000843: 5B 6B  0000002115: [ k .... 6
0000084F: 5B 6B  0000002127: [ k .... 7
0000085B: 5B 6B  0000002139: [ k .... 8
00000867: 5B 6B  0000002151: [ k .... 9
00000873: 5B 6B  0000002163: [ k .... 10
0000087F: 5B 6B  0000002175: [ k .... 11
0000088B: 5B 6B  0000002187: [ k .... 12
00000897: 5B 6B  0000002199: [ k .... 13
000008A3: 5B 6B  0000002211: [ k .... 14
000008AF: 5B 6B  0000002223: [ k .... 15
000008BB: 5B 6B  0000002235: [ k .... 16
000008C7: 5B 6B  0000002247: [ k .... 17
000008D3: 5B 6B  0000002259: [ k .... 18
000008DF: 69 79  0000002271: i y .... 19
000008EB: 6D 7D  0000002283: m } .... 20
000008F7: 6D 7D  0000002295: m } .... 21
00000903: 6D 7D  0000002307: m } .... 22
0000090E: 38 39  0000002318: 8 9 .... 23
0000090F: F8 08  0000002319:     .... 24

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

18,487,296  5-03-2007 1:29p  ___A
18,487,296  5-03-2007 1:29p  R___

00004C1C: 00 10  0000019484:     .... 1
00E6FC1C: 40 50  0015137820: @ P .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB

208,529,408  5-03-2007 1:29p  ___A
208,529,408  5-03-2007 1:29p  R___

00044C1C: A2 B2  0000281628:     .... 1
00844C1C: 82 92  0008670236:     .... 2
01BC4C1C: 61 71  0029117468: a q .... 3
01CC4C1C: A5 B5  0030166044:     .... 4
02844C1C: 04 14  0042224668:     .... 5
03BC4C1C: 00 10  0062671900:     .... 6
082C4C1C: A0 B0  0137120796:     .... 7
08C8848C: CC CD  0147358860:     .... 8
09AC4C1C: 40 50  0162286620: @ P .... 9
0A2C4C1C: 80 90  0170675228:     .... 10
0A4C4C1C: 43 53  0172772380: C S .... 11
0A644C1C: 42 52  0174345244: B R .... 12
0AB44C1C: 04 14  0179588124:     .... 13
0BAC4C1C: 47 57  0195841052: G W .... 14
0BB44C1C: 84 94  0196365340:     .... 15

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:32p  R___

014E641C: 00 10  0021914652:     .... 1
02A6641C: 04 14  0044459036:     .... 2
0596641C: A4 B4  0093742108:     .... 3
070E641C: 60 70  0118383644: ` p .... 4
0716641C: 00 10  0118907932:     .... 5
071E641C: 43 53  0119432220: C S .... 6
07EE641C: 82 92  0133063708:     .... 7
0C8E641C: 00 10  0210658332:     .... 8
1126641C: 00 10  0287728668:     .... 9
11E6641C: A5 B5  0300311580:     .... 10
12C6641C: 62 72  0314991644: b r .... 11
1B4E641C: 06 16  0458122268:     .... 12
1B86641C: C1 D1  0461792284:     .... 13
20EE641C: 00 10  0552494108:     .... 14
24B6641C: 46 56  0615932956: F V .... 15
28DE641C: 46 56  0685663260: F V .... 16
2996641C: 80 90  0697721884:     .... 17
2C2E641C: 40 50  0741237788: @ P .... 18
2C56641C: C6 D6  0743859228:     .... 19
3626641C: C0 D0  0908485660:     .... 20
3B9E641C: 80 90  1000236060:     .... 21
3F0E641C: 85 95  1057907740:     .... 22

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

03D66C1C: A3 B3  0064384028:     .... 1
092E6C1C: 42 52  0154037276: B R .... 2
0A866C1C: C5 D5  0176581660:     .... 3
0B066C1C: 20 30  0184970268:   0 .... 4
219E6C1C: 26 36  0564030492: & 6 .... 5
25AE6C1C: C3 D3  0632187932:     .... 6
362E6C1C: 80 90  0909011996:     .... 7
36366C1C: E1 F1  0909536284:     .... 8
370E6C1C: 26 36  0923692060: & 6 .... 9

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB

525,191,168  5-03-2007 1:35p  ___A
525,191,168  5-03-2007 1:35p  R___

18F6741C: E5 F5  0418804764:     .... 1
1986741C: 87 97  0428241948:     .... 2
1B56741C: C7 D7  0458650652:     .... 3
1ED6741C: C0 D0  0517370908:     .... 4
1F36741C: 42 52  0523662364: B R .... 5

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB

200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  ___A
200,757,248  5-03-2007 1:36p  R___

0A6CF41C: 00 10  0174912540:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB

955,410,432  5-03-2007 1:39p  ___A
955,410,432  5-03-2007 1:39p  R___

053A641C: A4 B4  0087712796:     .... 1
0AFA641C: 00 10  0184181788:     .... 2
176A641C: 84 94  0392848412:     .... 3
19B2641C: 00 10  0431121436:     .... 4

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\LITTLE_BRITAIN_S1_D2\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB

588,810,240  5-03-2007 1:41p  ___A
588,810,240  5-03-2007 1:41p  R___

009CC41C: C0 D0  0010273820:     .... 1
0ADCC41C: 80 90  0182240284:     .... 2
172CC41C: 82 92  0388809756:     .... 3
1E1CC41C: 41 51  0505201692: A Q .... 4


==============================
Compared 20 files, 10 OK

        10 contents different
==============================

 

Any suggestions for the process of elimination to follow from this point?

[Shamus_McFartfinger]

Silly question: You haven't got AnyDVD running in the background, have you?

[rhy7s]

Silly question: You haven't got AnyDVD running in the background, have you?

No, I don't have AnyDVD. Filter drivers loaded for the 112D/L are as follows:

----------------------------------------------------
Filter Driver Load Order     [url="http://www.bustrace.com"]http://www.bustrace.com[/url]
----------------------------------------------------

Upper Device Filter:  redbook
      Device Object:  PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L
 Lower Class Filter:  PxHelp20
 Lower Class Filter:  pfc
Lower Device Filter:  imapi

        Driver Name:  redbook.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Redbook Audio Filter Driver
       File Version:  5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
       Product Name:  Microsoft? Windows? Operating System
    Product Version:  5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
       Company Name:  Microsoft Corporation

        Driver Name:  pxhelp20.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
       File Version:  3.00.41a [3.0.41.0]
       Product Name:  PxHelp20
    Product Version:   [2.0.0.0]
       Company Name:  Sonic Solutions

        Driver Name:  pfc.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  Padus? ASPI Shell
       File Version:  2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
       Product Name:  Padus? ASPI Shell
    Product Version:  2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
       Company Name:  Padus, Inc.

        Driver Name:  imapi.sys
      File Location:  c:\windows\system32\drivers
   File Description:  IMAPI Kernel Driver
       File Version:  5.1.2600.2714 (xpsp.050705-1524) [5.1.2600.2714]
       Product Name:  Microsoft? Windows? Operating System
    Product Version:  5.1.2600.2714 [5.1.2600.2714]
       Company Name:  Microsoft Corporation

 

edit: hmm, wondering what app pxhelp20.sys came in with, seems to be some conflicting info on if it's a Windows or Sonic component (I don't think I've got anything related to Sonic installed).

Edited May 3, 2007 by rhy7s

[dontasciime]

winamp installed perhaps

[rhy7s]

Nah, don't have Winamp either, I use foobar2000 and musikCube.

[rhy7s]

Something odd for sure. Had another try at pinning down the culprit: ripped another DVD to C: (ATA), built iso image on C: (the last few burns have all been from C:) & mounted to Daemon Tools, built another iso image on D: (SATA), binary comparison of iso on C: to source files only miscompares were VIDEO_TS.BUP and VIDEO_TS.IFO - which is expected, comparing the iso on D: to the source files resulted in an additional 3 miscompared files (VTS_01_2, 3 & 4). Did another extended scan of my drives with SeaTools diagnostics, both drives passed. I upgraded SPTD.SYS to 1.45 beta, compared iso on D: again with the same result as the first. Built the image to D: again seeing as I had updated SPTD, the md5 of the new image was different to that of the old one on D: - but also different to the image on C:.

 

fcpro - iso on C: to source on C:

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2


=============================
Compared 9 files, 7 OK

        2 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - iso on D: to source on C:

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

280724BC: 00 20  0671556796:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

0FF51C3C: 65 E5  0267721788: e   .... 1
1305DC34: 3C 3E  0319151156: < > .... 2
302DB1AC: 20 A0  0808300972:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

18810CBC: 87 A7  0411110588:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 4 OK

        5 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - iso on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45)

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

280724BC: 00 20  0671556796:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

0FF51C3C: 65 E5  0267721788: e   .... 1
1305DC34: 3C 3E  0319151156: < > .... 2
302DB1AC: 20 A0  0808300972:     .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

18810CBC: 87 A7  0411110588:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 4 OK

        5 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 1st run

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

09544B04: 3D 1D  0156519172: =   .... 1
0C6B1394: 36 37  0208343956: 6 7 .... 2
255ED614: A0 A1  0626972180:     .... 3
299B9394: 5C 5D  0698061716: \ ] .... 4
2E9C9394: 4E 4F  0782013332: N O .... 5

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

0CC9DCA4: E1 E5  0214555812:     .... 1
10004B04: F7 D7  0268454660:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:38p  R___

142BCB04: 63 43  0338414340: c C .... 1
1781CB04: 26 06  0394382084: &   .... 2
29054B04: 7D 5D  0688212740: } ] .... 3

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:39p  R___

1280CB04: B1 91  0310430468:     .... 1
1BAD4B04: FF DF  0464341764:     .... 2
2183CB04: 26 06  0562285316: &   .... 3


=============================
Compared 9 files, 3 OK

        6 contents different
=============================

 

fcpro - new iso image on D: to source on C: (updated SPTD to 1.45) - 2nd run

 

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO

6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  ___A
6,144  5-04-2007 2:29p  R___

0000000F: 05 15  0000000015:     .... 1
00000813: 06 16  0000002067:     .... 2

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

255ED614: A0 A1  0626972180:     .... 1

C:\tmp\DVD-RB Output\BOUNCE\DVDFILES\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Z:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  ___A
1,073,739,776  5-04-2007 2:34p  R___

0CC9DCA4: E1 E5  0214555812:     .... 1


=============================
Compared 9 files, 5 OK

        4 contents different
=============================

 

now it seems very odd that different result were obtained not only between SPTD versions but also between runs on the same version. Anyone have some more ideas?

[dontasciime]

have you scanned C: for file system errors (not using hd manufacturer's tools) just the normal windows xp one

[rhy7s]

Thanks dontasciime, I haven't chkdsk'ed in a while, it picked up some errors on C:, none on D:. Created another image on D: and this time it only has the changes ImgBurn makes to the ifo and bup files, so the same behaviour as the image previously built on C: (though not the same md5).

[rhy7s]

Hmm, burnt two backups without errors since chkdsk, the third disc though is getting the same old miscompare errors, is there a rule of thumb to how many errors could be deemed acceptable seeing as DVD video playback isn't absolutely reliant on the data being correct?

 

I 12:26:31 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 12:26:31 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 12:26:31 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB  -  Available: 716,744 KB
I 12:26:31 Initialising SPTI...
I 12:26:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:26:32 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW/RAM!
I 12:26:52 Operation Started!
I 12:26:52 Building Image Tree...
I 12:26:52 Checking Directory Depth...
I 12:26:52 Calculating Totals...
I 12:26:52 Preparing Image...
I 12:26:52 Checking Path Length...
I 12:26:52 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:26:52 Image Sectors: 2,264,560
I 12:26:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 12:27:10 Operation Started!
I 12:27:10 Building Image Tree...
I 12:27:10 Checking Directory Depth...
I 12:27:10 Calculating Totals...
I 12:27:10 Preparing Image...
I 12:27:10 Checking Path Length...
I 12:27:10 Image Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:27:10 Image Sectors: 2,264,560
I 12:27:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 12:27:12 Operation Started!
I 12:27:12 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 12:27:12 Source File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:27:12 Source File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:27:12 Source File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON
I 12:27:12 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 12:27:12 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:27:12 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 12:27:12 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 12:27:12 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 12:27:12 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 12:27:12 Write Mode: DVD
I 12:27:12 Write Type: DAO
I 12:27:12 Write Speed: 8x
I 12:27:12 Link Size: Auto
I 12:27:12 Test Mode: No
I 12:27:12 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 12:27:12 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 12:27:13 Writing LeadIn...
I 12:27:38 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2264559)
I 12:34:48 Synchronising Cache...
I 12:34:49 Closing Track...
I 12:34:52 Finalising Disc...
I 12:35:17 Image MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d
I 12:35:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:04
I 12:35:17 Average Write Rate: 10,532 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,469 KB/s (8.3x)
I 12:35:17 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 12:35:36 Device Ready!
I 12:35:36 Operation Started!
I 12:35:36 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112L 8.09 (Y:) (ATA)
I 12:35:36 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 12:35:36 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 12:35:36 Image File Sectors: 2,264,560 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:35:36 Image File Size: 4,637,818,880 bytes
I 12:35:36 Image File Volume Identifier: GRAND_CANYON
I 12:35:36 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 12:35:36 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:35:36 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 12:35:36 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2264559)
W 12:50:34 Miscompare at LBA: 463272, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
W 12:50:34 Device: 0x02
W 12:50:34 Image File: 0x12
W 12:50:34 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:50:34 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:07 Miscompare at LBA: 587376, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:07 Device: 0x11
W 12:51:07 Image File: 0x01
W 12:51:07 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:07 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:24 Miscompare at LBA: 638576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:24 Device: 0x52
W 12:51:24 Image File: 0x42
W 12:51:24 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:24 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:51:36 Miscompare at LBA: 700016, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:51:36 Device: 0xD2
W 12:51:36 Image File: 0xC2
W 12:51:36 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:51:36 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:52:18 Miscompare at LBA: 894576, Offset: 1164, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
W 12:52:18 Device: 0x90
W 12:52:18 Image File: 0x80
W 12:52:18 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:52:18 Verifying Sectors...
W 12:54:10 Miscompare at LBA: 1594638, Offset: 772, File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
W 12:54:10 Device: 0xCA
W 12:54:10 Image File: 0xCB
W 12:54:10 Total Errors in Sector: 1
I 12:54:10 Verifying Sectors...
I 12:55:35 Device MD5: a71838f708ff4caae950da554db4495d
I 12:55:35 Image MD5: f91eeb4b8e5337293c87e7565d5b1ece
I 12:55:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:59
I 12:55:35 Average Verify Rate: 3,780 KB/s (2.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,224 KB/s (12.4x)

 

edit: Have completed another chkdsk without errors, and am a few passes into memtest86+ at the moment also without errors. Is there any other sub-system or system level diagnostics I should be running?

Edited May 6, 2007 by rhy7s