mobo

[cathater]

have finnally saved a little money and am designing my buggered systems replacement.

 

Was gonna do amd athalon x2 6000 instead of storebought intel system this time

 

pci express ?(make sugestion) video card (I'm not a gamer don't need anything fantastic here, just video editing)

 

? audio card ( wish to edit video in 5 channel)(newegg doesn't describe all audio jacks on asus m2n mobo)

 

motherboard---asus m2n e sli (handles 4 ide devices- to use my old toys-, and a 1394 jack I need)

 

I understand sli shares 2 video cards to accelarate video rendering, I don't need that

does it works with 1 card???

does it take part of 1st screen onto second card and 2nd monitor full screen or is that something I've read about elsewhere and different

[Jerseyguy]

How much is a little bit of money?

just so we can get a idea on what you want to spend, i just spent $900 on my new system.

and that was just for a processor, motherboard, memory and video card.

[cathater]

Oh I was kinda hoping for <$600, and reuseing all my ide stuff till it dies. Don't think theres anything else from my sony p4 I can borrow. So far I'm up to $400 (just 2 gig mem)

Was tinking a raidmax 612wb case with 500 watt power supply another $100 (4 fans, my sony always ran hot while rendering video, and thats when it died)

 

Jeepers, I don't think my sony xp runs on anything but that sony

[chewy]

I would go with a 2.6 windsor or even a 2.5 brisbane core, the 6000 is pushed to it's limits already with heat and power issues

 

better power supply

 

since you are using 4 ide's you will need a good power supply

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119068

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817159040

 

compare to the raidmax power

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817152029

[cathater]

I looked at power supplys Chewy, interesting one has a 28 amp 12v, and the other has 2 12v at 18 amp.

Now if I can find the mobo voltage in diagram I can figure out what I need? Or is this a sorted thing, 12v to mb, seperate 12v line to drives, and the other unit shares. Have not played this deep in computer before.

Edited July 27, 2007 by cathater

[cathater]

they have 2 2.6 windsor, both 129$

L2 cache

2 1mb or 2 512kb, bigger is better or just more heat?

 

decisions , decisions ,

thanks for the help Chewy

[chewy]

the 2 or 3 raidmax's I have seen had issues within a year or few months

 

they claim +12V@28A but Hold-up Time >10ms at full load

 

whereas the coolmax(not that good a brand) +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A

 

they would be a little more conservative

 

http://www.coolmaxusa.com/productDetailsPo...category=single

 

the connectors tell a lot too

[chewy]

they have 2 2.6 windsor, both 129$

L2 cache

2 1mb or 2 512kb, bigger is better or just more heat?

 

decisions , decisions ,

thanks for the help Chewy

 

 

the larger l2 is wasted on the amd64's as the onboard memory controller is so damn fast

 

the one thing to know is the amd64's need premium ram to keep up with the cpu's design

[cathater]

premium ram?

ddr 2 800

Latency 4 or 5

or do you have a specific brand to avoid

[chewy]

good ram on sale

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820146565

 

cas 4

[dontasciime]

That memory also has a bundle deal with XION Supernova XON-800R14N ATX12V quad rail nvidia sli cert.

Still makes $133 for psu though.

[chewy]

That memory also has a bundle deal with XION Supernova XON-800R14N ATX12V quad rail nvidia sli cert.

Still makes $133 for psu though.

 

if we had another 600$ of cath's money to spend we could get him into a E6850 and a decent video card another 2 gigs of that ram, course then he would want to go 64 bit

[dontasciime]

It's fun spending other peoples money though

 

1 gfx card . surely you meant 2 X 8800gtx/ultra/faf

[chewy]

I thought we would save the second 300$ card for after we got him hooked and then he would spend 1500$

 

course then he would need to stripe some raptors

[cathater]

If I had another $600 I'd probably go on a motorcycle vacation and worry about computing some other time. I've always got sweeties computer, although it goes somewhere in computer dreams sometimes. Taskmanager says system 98% idle, 2% taskmanager, and half my keystrokes nevermake it to the monitor.(it's not my spelling) I think she could use a clean install of everything, her kid says no.

 

Was looking at am2 fans, and reading the reviews, nobody sounded like they were doing a really good job. Let me see, 70c* 9/5+32= 158F (I understand F and that seems quite toasty, don't remember my p4 ever breaking 100F. )Should I continue saving money, and go some other way or does everybody run this toasty?

[chewy]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRevie...e=10&Page=1

 

should be idle at 35C load 40-50C

 

bit about a slight overclock to get memory up to 800 is a good tip

[cathater]

Dynatron > Item#:N82E16835114044 new idle temp of 105F vs. 116F with stock fan. Sustained torture CPU temp max of 136 to 141F compared to stock AMD cooler max at 153F

 

I may have been wro, wro, wrn, I may have been less then fully correct, I only remembered it as C

Still for $30 it not a bunch better then stock

[chewy]

keeps my AMD 5600+ x64 x2 at a cool 34C when at a full load. idle it drops down even lower!

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRevie...N82E16835200013

[cathater]

well the cheap, miserable person inside of me ordered the case and power supply today.

will recover from wallet shock and buy the rest payday

 

guess I better get to pinnacle studio to see what it requires for vid card as my agp card wont work here

[cathater]

256mb direct9 , ati radion9600, nvidia geforce6 or better

I know my agp card wasn't that good and it ran on a p4

[cornholio7]

7600gt works well and is pretty cheap

[chewy]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130075

 

the 7600's have dropped in price lately or for a little more

corn's gt chipset

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....=GeForce+7600GT

Edited August 1, 2007 by chewy

[cathater]

all the goodies should be here any day

 

first dumb question

2.2 v ram, 1.35v cpu and 3v and 5 volt lines on the power supply,

am I gonna find 35 jumpers on the motherboard and no instruction pamplet?

 

second question

has bill gates fixed vista enough yet, so it works with my editing software like xp does

[dontasciime]

Lol.

 

You will be ok there will be few jumpers and none to worry about.

 

Vista now thats a different matter.

[cathater]

Parts here!

Mobo in case, power supply in, video in, most of the wires hooked up,- hot and sweety in garage tonight, BREAK TIMe

 

need to get to other house, hdd, opt, floppie, monitor

 

3rd question mobo labeled spk, gnd, gnd, 5v - case speaker(piezo buzzer?) jack -wire blank blnk wire

well it does looker like a piez buzzer to me , if it was a speaker I would think speaker and grnd on mobo- what do you think?