burf Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Hi - - I don't think this is necessarily related to ImgBurn, but thought I'd try my luck here. Lately, I've been having problems with my burns. The burns go ok, but verifying, I'm getting read failures (Failed to Read Sector 2210689 - No Seek Complete). Usually, around 97-98% of the verify. I had no problems with my current Taiyo Yuden Silver Thermal 8X TYG02 DVD-R 100-pack... but suddenly, with 30 or so to go, this started... the last 5-10 burns. So, I'm wondering if it's the discs, or my drive (NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW) is going. Could someone advise how to figure out what the problem is? I have DVDInfoPro installed, but the graphs mean nothing to me Any help would be appreciated... thanks!
Movie Junkie Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Hi - - I don't think this is necessarily related to ImgBurn, but thought I'd try my luck here. Lately, I've been having problems with my burns. The burns go ok, but verifying, I'm getting read failures (Failed to Read Sector 2210689 - No Seek Complete). Usually, around 97-98% of the verify. I had no problems with my current Taiyo Yuden Silver Thermal 8X TYG02 DVD-R 100-pack... but suddenly, with 30 or so to go, this started... the last 5-10 burns. So, I'm wondering if it's the discs, or my drive (NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW) is going. Could someone advise how to figure out what the problem is? I have DVDInfoPro installed, but the graphs mean nothing to me Any help would be appreciated... thanks! Hello burf. Welcome to the ImgBurn forum. Your problem could be happening for a number of different reasons. Please post a log of one of the burns.
burf Posted August 4, 2007 Author Posted August 4, 2007 Thanks MJ Two logs below... one near the end of verify, & one in the middle. I really appreciate your help! Thanks again! ; //****************************************\\; ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 - Log ; Saturday, 04 August 2007, 13:14:53 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 12:37:11 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 12:37:11 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:37:11 Total Physical Memory: 785,904 KB - Available: 495,928 KB I 12:37:11 Initialising SPTI... I 12:37:11 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:37:11 Found 1 DVD
cornholio7 Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 have you tried a lens cleaner on the drive? the discs are good so it may be worth trying to run a lens cleaner on the drive to see if it helps , otherwise it may be the drive dying
LOCOENG Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Yep...it is an older drive, fortunately my 3540a is still chugging along.
volvofl10 Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 i thought genuine TYG02 only went upto 8x ? i know some drives will write faster than 8x to them ( plextor ? ) but not sure about an NEC . maybe soemone with a drive that writes faster than 8x to a genuine TYG02 disc can confirm if it shows more than 8x in the disc ID info part of the log I 12:42:09 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)
cornholio7 Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 yep it does mate, plextor 716 report 16x on them PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.10 (SCSI) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2.297.888 Free Space: 4.706.074.624 bytes Free Time: 510:40:38 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: TYG02 Recording Management Area Information: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2.495.103 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 an nec3500 reports 12x with tyg02 _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.1B (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,298,496 Free Space: 4,707,319,808 bytes Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: TYG02 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,495,103 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0
chewy Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 after manufacturers realized that tyg02's were about as good as it would ever get with blank media they started writting overspeeding into their firmware his nec original also plans for the future TYG02 12x,8x,6x,4x,2xTYG03 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2x TYG04 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2x TYG05 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2x TYG06 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2x
burf Posted August 5, 2007 Author Posted August 5, 2007 Nope... never tried a lens cleaner. Any recommendations? Yeah, I've always been curious about the 12x, too, but never tried faster than 8x. They are the genuine... got them from Supermediastore. I was wondering about the disks, because it just started suddenly, and most of the bad burns are happening around 97-98%, which to me, tended to point to them, rather than the drive. Luckily, it's usually in the credits, so I'm not trying another disk. Anyone know of a good app that can test the drive? Thanks again for the help!
dontasciime Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Maybe limit how much data is burned to 4300mb to keep it away from outer edge. Try a lens cleaner as well though.
kevdriver Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Just to throw my 2 cents into the mix, The drive is fairly old so it could be getting ready to retire. New drives are so reasonably priced now, it might be an idea to just buy a new one and be done with it.
burf Posted August 6, 2007 Author Posted August 6, 2007 Yeah, I've thought about just buying a new one, but wondered if there is any good software, to diagnose drives. As for the lens cleaner, I've never bought one. Anything specific to try? Thanks again for the help!
dontasciime Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 lens cleaner its a CD with a couple of bristles on one WET the other Dry drop some of the solution that comes with it onto the Wet bristle pop the CD into ROM drive and open my computer browse for the CD and it will have a few audio tracks on it play and follow instructions. Depends where you live as to choice and price generally a couple of
LOCOENG Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 I used to just take drive apart get some lense cleaning cloth and isoprol alcohol and clean it that way, too much hassle with some drives though Sounds like a warranty voider as well...
dontasciime Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Yep, good point. My drives were out of warranty by that time, would not take that approach with a new drive.
burf Posted August 6, 2007 Author Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks... I'll try that before buying another drive. I'll be buying a new computer soon, & would rather wait to get it all at once Thanks again!
LOCOENG Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 A new drive costs about as much as a spindle of discs...the good ones are pretty cheap anymore.
burf Posted August 7, 2007 Author Posted August 7, 2007 Hate to ask, but any recommendations for drives? Most of the reviews I'm finding, are for older drives. Of newer ones, the one I keep seeing pop up, though, is the Lite-on LH-20A1H.
LOCOENG Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 The Lite-On you listed should be a pretty good drive. The new Samsungs, Pioneers and LG's are also strong contenders. I think the current Pioneers are 112D's and Blu should be able to give good insight on a good LG. Stay away from Sony, memorex & HP...they are typically rebranded drives from the manufacturers listed above with a slight premium in price added. A cheap and reliable source would be http://www.newegg.com
Bigcrack&fries Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Hello, I am new to the forum and not that tech savy. I have been using the program successfully for a few months but now I can't burn anything. The program runs fine and even gives me the little jingle when complete, but when I check the disk to see if anything is on it, it's blank. Can anyone help me?
Bigcrack&fries Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Here's the log. I 19:36:47 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 19:36:47 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 19:36:47 Total Physical Memory: 2,095,480 KB - Available: 1,512,424 KB I 19:36:48 Initialising SPTI... I 19:36:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:36:48 Found 1 DVD
blutach Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 I 19:37:03 Test Mode: Yes Errrr..... untick test mode Regards
Bigcrack&fries Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 My apologies for being such a noob. Thank you blutach for your help.
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