ArNolDs Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 I burn an .iso file, I get DVD burn "SUCCESSFUL". All dvd programs are closed. I cycle the tray. An IMGBurn blank dvd is detected and IMGburn comes up (as the default) has a note in the lower left corner "Disc Not Empty". In nero infotool the message is: "Open, Not Finalized". My IMGBurn is apparently NOT closing/finalizing volumes properly. It's sudden as I have been using IMGBurn for a long time and it only wasted the last 5 dvds. I cannot open them in DVD players either. DD has been used to copy my backups. I checked through ALL the options and can't spot an error in setup (even though the setup has not been changed since ayear atleast). I upgrade it to the most recent a long time and have tried add/remove already. I also updated nero. STILL: NOT FINALIZED dvd s are being written. WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED???? Can anyone help?
blutach Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Post a log. Your media might not be up to snuff and so the drive can't finish. Also, ensure you verify your burns. Regards
ArNolDs Posted August 21, 2007 Author Posted August 21, 2007 Post a log. Your media might not be up to snuff and so the drive can't finish. Also, ensure you verify your burns. Regards I'll get a few logs together later. I've been using tdk forever, middles of packs, not possible the media is bad. Can't verify a dvd disk that goes back in as a blank disk (or i'll try not recyle and let you know-thx).
ArNolDs Posted August 21, 2007 Author Posted August 21, 2007 (edited) Post a log. Your media might not be up to snuff and so the drive can't finish. Also, ensure you verify your burns. Regards I'll get a few logs together later. or i'll try not recyle and let you know-thx). Still, same problem ... 1) All programs involved removed/reloaded (defaults taken if offered) 2) dvd flashed from 1.03c to 1.03d 3) rebooted PC 4) new region-free DVD backed up to iso file 5) "do not cycle tray' option set 6) image burn iso to blank dvd (THX for the Dual Layer DVD warning - I almost toated one) 7) verified completely (w/out the cycle of tray) output from imgburn: I 09:46:56 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 09:46:56 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 09:46:56 Total Physical Memory: 523,672 KB - Available: 83,552 KB I 09:46:56 Initialising SPTI... I 09:46:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 09:46:56 Found 1 CD-R, 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW! I 09:51:47 Operation Started! I 09:51:47 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\xxxxx\My Documents\Download\ISO\TEMP\xxxxx.ISO I 09:51:47 Source File Sectors: 2,286,016 (MODE1/2048) I 09:51:47 Source File Size: 4,681,760,768 bytes I 09:51:47 Source File Volume Identifier: xxxxx I 09:51:47 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING I 09:51:47 Source File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs I 09:51:47 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 09:51:47 Destination Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6650A 103D (D:) (ATA) I 09:51:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 09:51:47 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 09:51:47 Write Mode: DVD I 09:51:47 Write Type: DAO I 09:51:47 Write Speed: MAX I 09:51:47 Link Size: Auto I 09:51:47 Test Mode: No I 09:51:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 09:51:48 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 09:51:52 Writing LeadIn... I 09:52:18 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2286015) W 10:01:42 Waiting for buffers to recover... W 10:01:45 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 10:01:46 Writing Image... W 10:02:05 Waiting for buffers to recover... W 10:02:09 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 10:02:10 Writing Image... W 10:03:07 Waiting for buffers to recover... W 10:03:25 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 10:04:38 Writing Image... I 10:07:52 Synchronising Cache... I 10:07:53 Closing Track... I 10:08:06 Finalising Disc... I 10:08:34 Image MD5: 5b2b1a8f653abbaf809d706f2946a3eb I 10:08:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:16:46 I 10:08:35 Average Write Rate: 4,905 KB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,638 KB/s (6.2x) I 10:08:36 Operation Started! I 10:08:36 Source Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6650A 103D (D:) (ATA) I 10:08:36 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 10:08:36 Image File: C:\Documents and Settings\xxxxx\My Documents\Download\ISO\TEMP\xxxxx.ISO I 10:08:36 Image File Sectors: 2,286,016 (MODE1/2048) I 10:08:36 Image File Size: 4,681,760,768 bytes I 10:08:36 Image File Volume Identifier: GONE_WITH_THE_WIND I 10:08:36 Image File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING I 10:08:36 Image File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs I 10:08:36 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 10:08:36 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2286015) I 10:19:35 Device MD5: 5b2b1a8f653abbaf809d706f2946a3eb I 10:19:35 Image MD5: 5b2b1a8f653abbaf809d706f2946a3eb I 10:19:35 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:58 I 10:19:35 Average Verify Rate: 6,948 KB/s (5.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14,527 KB/s (10.5x) Then I cycle the tray to play the DVD and it is TOAST On insertion a IMGBurn window comes up with a "burn this DVD" option for that successfully written DVD and then as follows ... DVD is blank in explorer file list, won't play (or on TV). I am having no other problem with DVDs, I can read all older ones. This is BIZARRE. I know it might not be an IMGBurn problem. Could it be a bad windows file or driver. How could a hardware problem be so repeatable? It is a replacement drive working excell. since received lless than a year ago. Anyone with ideas on where to go would be so greatly appreciated. THX Edited August 21, 2007 by ArNolDs
mmalves Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 That's why "Cycle Tray Before Verify" is enabled by default: to ensure the disc can be properly recognized after burnt. Anyway, your problem is that CMC MAG media, which is known to be pure crap. Try and get Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media and you'll never have problems again. If you still want to burn those crappy discs, slow down to 4x or even 2.4x, but I wouldn't trust them with anything that you can't lose.
spinningwheel Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 I've been using tdk forever, middles of packs, not possible the media is bad. Wanna bet?
ArNolDs Posted August 23, 2007 Author Posted August 23, 2007 I've been using tdk forever, middles of packs, not possible the media is bad. Wanna bet? The last time I was in one of these DVD forums like on a different problem than this the head forum moderator / sysadmin was telling me Verbatims DL's were the problem - to get TDK or Memorex. The problem seems to have turned out to be the drive which was replaced by this drive w/out any problems until now (but I pay the xstra for TDKs now). I took some ISP down time (another bizzare event probably to blame on a wireless mouse erratic movement in the status bar) to completely unload/reload every DVD program. I copy/burned with two other sets of programs. All had the same strange result (so it is NOT an imgburn!!!!) problem. Suddenly the problem went away as fast as it occurred. However over this time and now I notice erratic mounting of dvd in explorer sometimes requiring reboot. CDDRV appears where DVDDRV should, volume labels do or do not. They've been selling us CRAPPY media, huh? And thx for the feedback, it's helping.
LOCOENG Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 They've been selling us CRAPPY media, huh? Yep and the dude at that other forum gave you some bunk advice on the Verbatims...
ArNolDs Posted August 23, 2007 Author Posted August 23, 2007 They've been selling us CRAPPY media, huh? Yep and the dude at that other forum gave you some bunk advice on the Verbatims... Alright. So you all DROVE me back to where this whole TDK thing began. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm where "TDK" was highly rated. I bought CRAPPY media on a manufacture with a good reputation brand. It so happens that I did start out with good TDKs. I just recently did open this last spool of substandardly rated CMC MAG-M01-00 discs under "TDK" brand (duhhhhhh, could it have been the DVDs, I wonder). You are right. I got RIPPED OFF by TDK and some US department store chain misrepresenting something in order to shave some pennies off for their beancounters. Is that unusual? Liars and CHEATS. I can't believe how much time I have wasted on this bad media problem. I'm glad I caught it early (THX again). All I'll say is don't use TDKs, bring the linked table and a magnifying glass whenever you look for blank DVDs, like I am doing right now after tossing that TDK SHIT. I don't think I'll be buying anything from Taiwan again.
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 We only use Verbatim and Taiyo Yudens here but even the Verbatim -R/DL are pretty dodgy. Grab TY -R, Verb -R, +R or +R/DL. Everything else is crap.
chewy Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 some tdk's used to be very good, they were all made in japan tho http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/tdk-dvd-...8/2580#comments http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/tdk-dvd-...-4/584#comments
volvofl10 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 sadly theres only 3 decent brands that are consistently reliable now single layer -R 4.7Gb taiyo yuden ( Ty brand) single layer -R 4.7Gb verbatims Dual layer use ONLY genuine Verbatim datalifeplus
ArNolDs Posted August 24, 2007 Author Posted August 24, 2007 sadly theres only 3 decent brands that are consistently reliable now single layer -R 4.7Gb taiyo yuden ( Ty brand) single layer -R 4.7Gb verbatims Dual layer use ONLY genuine Verbatim datalifeplus WOW! I'm back and I am already getting the answer to my next question for suggestions. I went to the computer center yesterday. I noticed that no DVD or CD packages had anything like the media "TDK003" or "MAGM01" on the labels (maybe it's where I happen to be for a month). Most customer assistants would just tend to say that the more expensive ones were generally better (they don't know about the 'media's). The 'more expensive' brands with +R here are Mitsubishi, Verbatims, Sony, TDK (yukk - but many here specifically wouldn't recommend them!). Any opinions on Mitsu or Sony? I couldn't find Taiyo Yudens, which I had already decided I would have just gone for. So I held back from getting new discs, thinking I would start looking around for suggestions, which I am gracious to now already be reading.
LOCOENG Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 I've been using tdk forever, middles of packs, not possible the media is bad. The kiss of death As chewy stated look for Made in Japan on the label...the exception would be Verbatim being as they are made in Taiwan. So where in the world are you? These brands can be found online if they aren't available locally.
chewy Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Mitsubishi made in Singapore should be very good media, those were good years
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