Kev_83 Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 I've wasted about 4 DL DVD's via Nero. I'm trying to back up various files. The biggest burn i'm attempting is 7.5GB (obviously well within the capacity of the DVD). Key note #1 here guys :: i have done this before using Nero and it worked fine. I'm attempting nothing different to what has worked for me in the past. Whatever firmware i have now ... i had it in the past when it last worked. Whatever my Nero version is ... i had it in the past when it last worked etc. But i was getting errors relating to [disc at once] ... someone recommended ImgBurn to me, so i figured i would try it Just downloaded it, attempted to burn, and got an error message. Key note #2 ::: I can burn various files (using Nero) on a DVD+RW perfectly fine, no problems. But it seems to be when going the Dual Layer route that i'm facing problems. I 15:23:22 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!I 15:23:22 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 15:23:22 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,044 KB - Available: 683,748 KB I 15:23:22 Initialising SPTI... I 15:23:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 15:23:22 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW! I 15:27:27 Operation Started! I 15:27:27 Source File: D:\Documents and Settings\Kev\My Documents\04.iso I 15:27:27 Source File Sectors: 3,739,065 (MODE1/2048) I 15:27:27 Source File Size: 7,657,605,120 bytes I 15:27:27 Source File Volume Identifier: 20071022_123703 I 15:27:27 Source File Application Identifier: UltraISO V7.2 CD & DVD Image Creator, Copyright ©2002-2004 EZB Systems, Inc. I 15:27:27 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 15:27:27 Destination Device: [3:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.01 (F:) (ATA) I 15:27:27 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) (Speeds: 2.4x) I 15:27:27 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 15:27:27 Write Mode: DVD I 15:27:27 Write Type: DAO I 15:27:27 Write Speed: 2x I 15:27:27 Link Size: Auto I 15:27:27 Test Mode: No I 15:27:27 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 15:27:28 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,877,881 I 15:27:28 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary W 15:27:49 L0 Data Zone Capacity Miscompare! W 15:27:49 Wanted: 1877881, Got: 1877888 I 15:27:49 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 15:27:50 Writing LeadIn... I 15:27:51 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 3739064) I 15:27:51 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1877880) I 15:46:38 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1877881 - 3739064) I 16:05:41 Synchronising Cache... I 16:05:42 Closing Track... I 16:05:59 Finalising Disc... W 16:06:30 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/2) - No Seek Complete W 16:11:27 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/2) - No Seek Complete E 16:13:14 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: No Seek Complete I 16:13:14 Finalising Disc (Last Attempt!)...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 Update the firmware and try again. http://www.de.nec.de/software/2325_FW_ND-3540A_win104.zip If you'd have read any of the other DL post on this (or any other) forum you'd have already seen that pretty much the only DL discs people recommend are Verbatim ones.
Kev_83 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Posted October 22, 2007 Just a query then... I have just checked on the dual layer DVDs that worked the last time i wanted to back up this amount. There is no label on them whatsoever. I have read other people's DL problems & did note the verbatim comment, but i dismissed this simply because i have used other DVD's before, that are unbranded and work. I use unbranded CD's all the time & they always work. I use unbranded single layer DVD's that work all the time no problem. The last set of dual layer DVD's i worked were unbranded and worked. the DL DVD's i'm using at the moment that are failing, have "Datawrite" on them. I have used CD's & DVD's with this on the label & they've always worked. So why should THESE dl dvd's i'm using not work? Also, why would the firmware be an issue when the firmware that is currently installed is the same firmware that was installed the last time that dl burning worked for me? I'm not for a minute saying you're wrong. I just do not understand why, what worked last time, is what you're saying could possibly be the reason it is no longer working. To me that doesn't make sense. I'd just like to understand before i go down this route.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 Although it may have worked before, burning discs is not quite as simple as working/not working. There are hundreds of levels between something working and not working. You've no idea how close to 'not working' your 'working' burns were - if you catch my drift?! Not only that, things change. Drives wear out and discs degrade. There's nothing constant in this business except the software you're using - which of course does not deteriorate over time You also have to take into account that the brand name (or lack of it) stamped on a disc doesn't mean anything at all. It's the dye that's important and a brand may make use of several differeny dye types. So there's nothing to say that the first spindle of discs you buy from a certain brand will be the same as the next lot. That aside, your drives firmware should always be kept up-to-date. To not update it is to still be running Windows 95 in the year 2007 - i.e. stupid.
Kev_83 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Posted October 22, 2007 Ok, thanks for the clear up I've read up & found that updating, could possibly lead to drive failure. I have a few things i need to burn (i.e. mp3s to CD, and back up most of my files to a single layer DVD, which i know will work) & then i'll get to updating & attempting a DL burn. Are you saying this MIGHT or WILL work with my DL problem?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 Yeah and you could get run over if you leave your house tomorrow. Sites have to mention that sort of thing to cover their backs. Short of having a powercut in the exact 30 seconds it takes to update the drive, it's 99% fool proof. I wouldn't even consider mentioning something if I wasn't perfectly happy to do it myself.... and where firmware updates are concerned, I've probably done more than just about anyone! I do have quite a collection of drives now and I'm always on the lookout for firmware updates! It's a complete waste of time reporting any sort of issue with anything unless you know you're as up-to-date as you can be with everything involved in the process. As for being 100% sure it'll fix the issue, nobody can say that for sure, it's impossible. I don't like the discs you're using and the drive is quite old. What I can tell you is that NEC haven't spent their time and money producing a firmware update for people NOT to use it! They're there to fix issues and improve the quality of the burns. Fingers crossed it sorts out your issue.
Kev_83 Posted October 23, 2007 Author Posted October 23, 2007 Thanks for your help on this dude. The firmware update SEEMS to have fixed the issue I have wasted 7 out of 10 DVDs on this, but then i did the update & the 8th DVD worked. I have 5 folders for Dual Layer backup. I have ordered some Verbatim DVD's off ebay.co.uk. I should probably put all 5 on them. thanks for the help
volvofl10 Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 if your in the UK , try svp.co.uk for all your media needs
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Hey, I can be a 'dude' with the best of 'em
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