ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Posted January 5, 2008 at what speed was that burned? 4x. The image I wrote was from a USB HDD to this USB burner... Sadly the burner does not have 6x mode (at least DVDBurn did not want to write so when I selected) just 4x and 8x. The USB EHCI controller does not seem to be able to read and write 2 channels simultaneously at ~11.000 KB/s... Below are the 8x write details. AE
spinningwheel Posted January 5, 2008 Posted January 5, 2008 from a USB HDD to this USB burner... That's a lot to expect from USB to USB. I use a USB HDD to rip to and then to burn from to my tower and I have verify problems most of the time. Can you mount one of the devices in your machine?
ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Posted January 5, 2008 from a USB HDD to this USB burner... That's a lot to expect from USB to USB. I use a USB HDD to rip to and then to burn from to my tower and I have verify problems most of the time. Can you mount one of the devices in your machine? Sadly no. I bought an external burner, because my current drive is mounted vertically, and I suppose it's not for the best... The USB HDD is a laptop IDE drive and cannot be mounted either my PC or my laptop. Anyway since I have this external drive, I'll try to burn some discs with my laptop as well (it could even be better with it than with the PC, since the PC is a 5 year old P4 2GHz DELL Optiplex and the laptop is a DualCore 2GHz Lenovo T60) AE PS. I have killed an another disc with the burner, but the disc should be defect... There was a 'ring' in the written area, and the verify failed. It looked weird, like some old (disc) hardware based copy protection. I think this cube of Verba discs is fake...
dontasciime Posted January 5, 2008 Posted January 5, 2008 You should be able to manage 8x with 2 usb2 devices (usb2>usb2) and get decent burn speeds / Cpu Useage / scans etc. Or it might be time to check out some new enclosures or a different EHCI controller or both. USB 2 Hard drive to USB 2 Liteon 20A3P [8x] I 20:58:35 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 20:58:35 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:58:35 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,956,840 KB W 20:58:35 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:58:35 Initialising SPTI... I 20:58:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:58:48 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 20:59:24 Operation Started! I 20:59:24 Source File: L:\Backups\SOME.ISO I 20:59:24 Source File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 20:59:24 Source File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 20:59:24 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 20:59:24 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 20:59:24 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 20:59:24 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:59:24 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 20:59:24 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 20:59:24 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 20:59:24 Write Mode: DVD I 20:59:24 Write Type: DAO I 20:59:24 Write Speed: 8x I 20:59:24 Link Size: Auto I 20:59:24 Test Mode: No I 20:59:24 OPC: Yes I 20:59:24 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:59:25 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 20:59:39 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 20:59:40 Writing LeadIn... I 21:00:01 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:00:01 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:07:31 Synchronising Cache... I 21:07:48 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:07:48 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_20-59_CMC_MAG._AM3_8x.ibg I 21:07:48 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:07:48 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:23 I 21:07:48 Average Write Rate: 10,159 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,263 KB/s (8.1x) I 21:07:48 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:07:54 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:08:09 Device Ready! I 21:08:10 Operation Started! I 21:08:10 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:08:10 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:08:10 Image File: L:\Backups\SOME.ISO I 21:08:10 Image File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 21:08:10 Image File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 21:08:10 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:08:10 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:08:10 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:08:10 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:08:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:08:10 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:08:10 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:13:15 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:13:15 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_20-59_CMC_MAG._AM3_8x.ibg I 21:13:15 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:13:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:04 I 21:13:15 Average Verify Rate: 15,038 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 20,900 KB/s (15.1x) USB 2 8GB Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [8x] I 21:16:55 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 21:16:55 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:16:55 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,952,396 KB W 21:16:55 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 21:16:55 Initialising SPTI... I 21:16:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:16:58 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 21:17:21 Operation Started! I 21:17:21 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:17:21 Source File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 21:17:21 Source File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 21:17:21 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:17:21 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:17:22 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:17:22 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:17:22 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:17:22 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 21:17:22 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 21:17:22 Write Mode: DVD I 21:17:22 Write Type: DAO I 21:17:22 Write Speed: 8x I 21:17:22 Link Size: Auto I 21:17:22 Test Mode: No I 21:17:22 OPC: Yes I 21:17:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:17:22 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 21:17:34 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:17:35 Writing LeadIn... I 21:17:56 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:17:56 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:25:28 Synchronising Cache... I 21:25:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:25:44 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-17_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 21:25:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:25:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:22 I 21:25:44 Average Write Rate: 10,136 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,263 KB/s (8.1x) I 21:25:44 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:25:51 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:26:05 Device Ready! I 21:26:07 Operation Started! I 21:26:07 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:26:07 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 21:26:07 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:26:07 Image File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 21:26:07 Image File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 21:26:07 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:26:07 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:26:07 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:26:07 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:26:07 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:26:07 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:26:07 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:31:10 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:31:10 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-17_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 21:31:10 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:31:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:03 I 21:31:10 Average Verify Rate: 15,088 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,422 KB/s (16.2x) USB2 8Gb Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [12x] I 21:41:03 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 21:41:03 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:41:03 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,956,004 KB W 21:41:03 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 21:41:03 Initialising SPTI... I 21:41:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:41:16 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 21:41:37 Operation Started! I 21:41:37 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:41:37 Source File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 21:41:37 Source File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 21:41:37 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:41:37 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:41:37 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:41:37 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:41:37 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:41:37 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:41:37 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 21:41:37 Write Mode: DVD I 21:41:37 Write Type: DAO I 21:41:37 Write Speed: 12x I 21:41:37 Link Size: Auto I 21:41:37 Test Mode: No I 21:41:37 OPC: Yes I 21:41:37 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:41:37 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 21:41:51 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:41:53 Writing LeadIn... I 21:42:13 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:42:13 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:48:50 Synchronising Cache... I 21:48:59 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:48:59 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-41_CMC_MAG._AM3_12x.ibg I 21:48:59 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:48:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:22 I 21:48:59 Average Write Rate: 11,515 KB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 16,646 KB/s (12.0x) I 21:48:59 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:49:06 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:49:22 Device Ready! I 21:49:23 Operation Started! I 21:49:23 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:49:23 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:49:23 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:49:23 Image File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 21:49:23 Image File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 21:49:23 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:49:23 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:49:23 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:49:23 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:49:23 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:49:23 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:49:23 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:54:27 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:54:27 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-41_CMC_MAG._AM3_12x.ibg I 21:54:27 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:54:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:03 I 21:54:27 Average Verify Rate: 15,087 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,317 KB/s (16.1x) Then I realised I had not disabled Smartburn on the Liteon 20A3P USB2 8Gb Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [16x] I 22:06:17 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 22:06:17 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 22:06:17 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,954,240 KB W 22:06:17 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 22:06:17 Initialising SPTI... I 22:06:17 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:06:18 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 22:06:45 Operation Started! I 22:06:45 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 22:06:45 Source File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 22:06:45 Source File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 22:06:45 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 22:06:45 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 22:06:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 22:06:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 22:06:45 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 22:06:45 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 22:06:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 22:06:45 Write Mode: DVD I 22:06:45 Write Type: DAO I 22:06:45 Write Speed: 16x I 22:06:45 Link Size: Auto I 22:06:45 Test Mode: No I 22:06:45 OPC: Yes I 22:06:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:06:45 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: No I 22:06:58 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 22:07:00 Writing LeadIn... I 22:07:18 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:07:18 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:12:18 Synchronising Cache... I 22:12:30 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:12:30 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_22-06_CMC_MAG._AM3_16x.ibg I 22:12:30 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:12:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:45 I 22:12:30 Average Write Rate: 15,289 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,029 KB/s (15.9x) I 22:12:30 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:12:37 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:12:52 Device Ready! I 22:12:54 Operation Started! I 22:12:54 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 22:12:54 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 22:12:54 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 22:12:54 Image File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 22:12:54 Image File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 22:12:54 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 22:12:54 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 22:12:54 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 22:12:54 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 22:12:54 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 22:12:54 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:12:54 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:17:56 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:17:56 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_22-06_CMC_MAG._AM3_16x.ibg I 22:17:56 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:17:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:02 I 22:17:56 Average Verify Rate: 15,188 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,475 KB/s (16.2x) I noticed you replied since I ran all this, with info about laptop ide in Usb Enclosure so more than likely 5400Rpm which would affect speed. [edit] something unusual in graph as the disc write speed got to 16, or rather 15.9x) I saw That yet graph DIP says 12.30x end . Suppose just at end usb bandwidth dropped at that split second
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