MIG Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) I just purchased a Samsung SH-S202N and I am positively surprised by this drive. Bit Setting works for +R and +R/W straight out of the box without any firmware patching. Under Advanced Settings there is a read(?) speed setting called Magic Speed which can be set to High Speed Mode or Silent Mode. This Setting can be visible changed by ImgBurn but is neither displayed in the log nor has any effect. Verify always starts very slow until 10% is reached and speeds up then. Turnaround times for verifying ~4.2 GB data are always ~6:00 min. I 18:29:15 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 18:29:15 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 18:29:15 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 305.500 KB I 18:29:15 Initialising SPTI... I 18:29:15 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:29:15 Found 1 CD-ROM, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 18:32:20 Operation Started! I 18:32:20 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:32:20 Source File Sectors: 2.143.248 (MODE1/2048) I 18:32:20 Source File Size: 4.389.371.904 bytes I 18:32:20 Source File Volume Identifier: I 18:32:20 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 18:32:20 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 18:32:20 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202N SB01 (S:) (ATA) I 18:32:20 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 18:32:20 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 18:32:20 Write Mode: DVD I 18:32:20 Write Type: DAO I 18:32:20 Write Speed: 16x I 18:32:20 Link Size: Auto I 18:32:20 Test Mode: No I 18:32:20 OPC: Yes I 18:32:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:32:20 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 18:32:34 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 18:32:35 Writing LeadIn... I 18:32:40 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2143247) I 18:32:40 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2143247) I 18:37:28 Synchronising Cache... I 18:37:34 Closing Track... I 18:37:37 Finalising Disc... I 18:37:56 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:37:56 Graph Data File: E:\IMGBURN\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S202N_SB01_SAMSTAG-1-MÄRZ-2008_18-32_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 18:37:56 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:37:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:35 I 18:37:56 Average Write Rate: 14.883 KB/s (10.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21.661 KB/s (15.6x) I 18:37:56 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 18:38:03 Waiting for device to become ready... I 18:38:17 Device Ready! I 18:38:18 Operation Started! I 18:38:18 Source Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202N SB01 (S:) (ATA) I 18:38:18 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 18:38:18 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:38:18 Image File Sectors: 2.143.248 (MODE1/2048) I 18:38:18 Image File Size: 4.389.371.904 bytes I 18:38:18 Image File Volume Identifier: I 18:38:18 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 18:38:18 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 18:38:18 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:38:18 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2143247) I 18:38:18 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2143247) I 18:44:20 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:44:20 Graph Data File: E:\IMGBURN\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S202N_SB01_SAMSTAG-1-MÄRZ-2008_18-32_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 18:44:20 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:44:20 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:57 I 18:44:20 Average Verify Rate: 12.006 KB/s (8.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 21.897 KB/s (15.8x) My Plextor PX-320A drive has PowerRec built in, but this setting can't be changed by ImgBurn it simply stays disabled. I 18:31:56 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 18:31:56 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 18:31:56 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 337.720 KB I 18:31:56 Initialising SPTI... I 18:31:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:31:56 Found 1 CD-ROM, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 18:36:20 Operation Started! I 18:36:20 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:36:20 Source File Sectors: 359.847 (MODE1/2048) I 18:36:20 Source File Size: 736.966.656 bytes I 18:36:20 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 18:36:20 Source File File System(s): None I 18:36:20 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A X.06 (R:) (ATA) I 18:36:20 Destination Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m26s65f) I 18:36:20 Destination Media Sectors: 359.847 I 18:36:20 Write Mode: CD I 18:36:20 Write Type: SAO I 18:36:20 Write Speed: MAX I 18:36:20 Test Mode: No I 18:36:20 OPC: Yes I 18:36:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:36:20 Advanced Settings - PowerRec: No I 18:36:33 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 18:36:33 Writing LeadIn... I 18:36:52 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 359846) I 18:36:52 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 359846) I 18:45:00 Synchronising Cache... I 18:45:05 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:45:05 Graph Data File: E:\IMGBURN\PLEXTOR_CD-R_PX-320A_X.06_FREITAG-29-FEBRUAR-2008_18-36_97m26s65f_MAX.ibg I 18:45:05 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:45:05 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:44 I 18:45:05 Average Write Rate: 1.477 KB/s (9.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1.512 KB/s (10.1x) I 18:45:05 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 18:45:27 Device Ready! I 18:45:27 Operation Started! I 18:45:27 Source Device: [1:1:0] PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A X.06 (R:) (ATA) I 18:45:27 Source Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m26s65f) I 18:45:27 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:45:27 Image File Sectors: 359.847 (MODE1/2048) I 18:45:27 Image File Size: 736.966.656 bytes I 18:45:27 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 18:45:27 Image File File System(s): None I 18:45:27 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:45:27 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 359846) I 18:45:27 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 359846) I 18:48:49 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:48:49 Graph Data File: E:\IMGBURN\PLEXTOR_CD-R_PX-320A_X.06_FREITAG-29-FEBRUAR-2008_18-36_97m26s65f_MAX.ibg I 18:48:49 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:48:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:16 I 18:48:49 Average Verify Rate: 3.690 KB/s (24.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5.151 KB/s (34.3x) So how should these advanced settings work? Edited March 1, 2008 by MIG
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 If you select 'Enabled' for the plextor one and hit 'Change', does it error out? Not all the plextor drives let you change those settings. Also, it might be different commands for CD Vs DVD drives. I've only ever test it on the DVD ones (as that's all I have).
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 So you select 'Enabled', click 'Change', it pops up 'Success!' and when you close that box it still says 'Current Setting: Disabled' ? If that's the case, I'll have to pass! I don't think any of my Plextor CD drives support power rec but I'll take a quick look. What happens if you change the setting in PlexTools and then view it in ImgBurn? (and vice versa) Does ImgBurn see that you've enabled / disabled it in PlexTools? Does PlexTools actually see that it's been enabled / disabled if you close down + reopen the program?
MIG Posted March 1, 2008 Author Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) Of course it's the pass case, I can enable/disable this setting always successfully but dialog and log always show disabled. And for the PlexTools.. I must install these first.. Edited March 1, 2008 by MIG
MIG Posted March 1, 2008 Author Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) Oh well, 2 perfect examples of marketing foobar.. because I already (temporarily) ruined my W2K installation with PlexTools I also installed the security hole called Adobe Flash to access the SamsungODD download page for MagicSpeed sic --- Plextor --- The original retail package praises the PlexCombo as follows BurnProofPowerRec II VariRec just see PlexTools screen shots below (ImgBurn correctly rejects AutoStrategy) --- Samsung --- From their site: The recent ODD products supply the highest reading speed. They can read data faster than the highest reading speed, but the rotation noise and the possibility of damages (crack or bent) have increased due to its high rotating speed To support a safe and delightful PC environment for users, Samsung has developed a Magic Speed algorithm and has adopted it to its new products. What is Magic Speed Algorithm? To prevent disc breakage when using a cracked disc, it drives the disc at a safe speed by setting the disc to reading speed. In addition, for users who want CD reproduction at the highest speed, we provide a service of function that enables users to select reading speed they desire through MAGIC SPEED program. MAGIC SPEED is a program that controls reading speed only for CD. It doesn't control recording speed and reading speed for DVD. Please change the mode after taking out the DVD disc. In case that DVD Disc is inserted in the drive, the mode will not be changed. Conclusion 1.) May I suggest removing MagicSpeed for Samsung Drives completely because it can only throttle CD reading. 2.) For all other advanced settings a builtin white list for approved devices should be used. Edited March 1, 2008 by MIG
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