wraithdu Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Pretty much what it says. I burned a DVD project using Build to Device mode. It was around 330 MB. I have most of the defualt options, so the DVD+R Finalise Disc option was activated correctly (DVD+R Reserve Track = OFF; new default in 2.4.0.0??). I burned the project and got just the 330 MB burned, not the normal padding to 1 GB. I tried also creating an ISO out of the project and burning the ISO with the same results. Both discs play fine in my home player. This feature worked in 2.3.2.0. Need any other info? BenQ DW1650 Verbatim 16x DVD+R WinXP Pro SP2 Keep up the great work on this project!
wraithdu Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 Oh, and I'm using the Nero ASPI layer, 2.0.1.74, if that makes any difference.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 'DVD+R Reserve Track' has always defaulted to off. It's not ImgBurn that does the padding, it's the drive. I've never actually tested it myself but I wouldn't have expected the drive to add 670mb of 'nothing' to the end of the user data area, I'd have expected it to be 'hidden'.
wraithdu Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 I've read through some other threads, so I realise it's the drive doing the padding, but ImgBurn sends the flag with the write command telling it to do so. This always worked perfectly in 2.3.2.0. And the data was never "hidden". The drive actually burns out to 1 GB, I can see the burn ring. Is the flag maybe not being set correctly in the new version?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 It's in the code and the correct flag in the 'Close Track / Session' command is deffo being sent. It's not burning 1gb anyway, you're getting that from nero (or one of my previous posts where I was wrong!). The drives are supposed to burn until they reach a 30mm radius. Burning 300mb in Discovery mode, I can see a clear difference between burns with it on and off. With the option OFF: ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV66 (SCSI) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 153,600 Size: 314,572,800 bytes Time: 34:10:00 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x TOC Information: Session 1... -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 153599) -> LeadOut (LBA: 153600) Disc Control Blocks Information: ATAPI Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: TDK-003-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: TDK-003-00 Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 350,207 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 With the option ON: ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV66 (SCSI) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 153,600 Size: 314,572,800 bytes Time: 34:10:00 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x TOC Information: Session 1... -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 153599) -> LeadOut (LBA: 153600) Disc Control Blocks Information: ATAPI Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: TDK-003-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: TDK-003-00 Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 350,207 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 As you can see, the disc info remains the same on both (as expected). It would totally mess up UDF file system if the drive just padded the user data with zeroes.
wraithdu Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 I burned a few test discs, and something is weird. My info on the burned discs comes back similar to yours, ie both discs have the same info. However the disc I burned with the option OFF has a ring about 1/8" of an inch (I don't have a mm ruler handy, but 30mm = ~1.18in), and the disc with the option ON has a ring about 1/4". So yes, it makes a difference, but something is still wrong. I tried both WINASPI and SPTI, same results. I swear this worked right in 2.3.2.0. I'm gonna try to go back to that version and try it out. Nothing strange in the logs. Burner - BenQ DW1655 firmware BCGB
wraithdu Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 I guess I have to apologize. My drive has gone retarded it seems. It won't burn out to 30mm now even with 2.3.2.0. I guess I'll have to live with it. Sorry to have wasted your time. I'll post back if I find anything else out.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Remember the 30mm is from the VERY centre of the disc (i.e. the middle of the hole), not from the bit you can see it burns to. On the actual burning surface, the 30mm is probably something like 7mm So long as there's a difference between having it on and having it off when burning something
wraithdu Posted March 29, 2008 Author Posted March 29, 2008 Remember the 30mm is from the VERY centre of the disc (i.e. the middle of the hole), not from the bit you can see it burns to. Are you serious?? I absolutely never knew that's how it was measured. I rechecked the discs...30mm on the dot from the center of the hole. I learn something new every day. Thanks so much for clearing all this up. I guess this "feature" has been incorrectly implemented in other software then, because I've definitely used programs that burn a full 1GB onto the disc. Have a great weekend!!
Cynthia Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Did a test with Nero and it writes the same amount of sectors that the Video DVD project consists of (300MB). I did have that 1GB option enabled in Nero. Found a discussion in this thread. http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/showthread.php?t=5393 I liked this comment in that thread. Time we all moved away from this old must do's. If the dvd player cannot handle it, so what go buy a new model and replace the old no good junk dvd player.
Cynthia Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Or use a CD Regards I burned a DVD project Not possible.
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