Image not mastered correctly

[Sliztzan]

Hello and thanks again for ImgBurn,

 

I made an image with ImgBurn from a DL DVD. Tonight I went to burn and got this error message:

Optimal L1 data zone start LBA: none found (VTS_04)

this image has not been mastered correctly for burning onto a double layer (OTP track path) disc.

 

None of the cells meet the 'DVD-video specification' criteria for a potential layer break position

 

I've read from some of your other replies that I should rebuild the image. I was hoping to retain the original Imp ID and would lose this if rebuild.

 

Is there anything else to do?

 

Also if ImgBurn read and made the image, why did this happen? Thank you.

 

Regards,

Sliztzan

[mmalves]

ImgBurn's Read mode copies the disc as it is: it doesn't change anything from the source disc.

 

I think your source DL DVD is PTP, and to burn that on a DVD+R DL blank (which is OTP) you'll have to rebuild. Is there a password or something like that in Imp ID to make you want to keep it?

[Sliztzan]

It's a original retail DVD. No password or anything like that. Just wanted exact clone keeping file dates too. Does this mean that it cannot burn the disc as it was read?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Does this mean that it cannot burn the disc as it was read?

 

I'm afraid not.

[blutach]

I'd stop worrying about file dates and times, implementation ID and other miscellaneous junk from the filesystem and extract the files and use build mode. It will tell you where you can split the DVD.

 

And if it's an original retail DVD, you couldn't have made an image with ImgBurn, unless you used a decrypter. We do not discuss decryption problems on this forum. For Euro 79, I hear they give good support.

 

Regards

[Sliztzan]

What support are you talking about for Euro 79? Did someone get up on the wrong side of the bed?

Anyway blutach, not all retail DVD use copy protection and as I said in the thread start I used ImgBurn. I had thought that maybe the disc didn't have a layer break and that was why the error msg, but I've read in other threads that isn't true. Thanks!

[blutach]

Not all of them; only say 99.9% of them. Anyway, it's not an ImgBurn issue, is it?

 

Regards

[Sliztzan]

I would say that's true of Hollywood mainstream movies but who's counting? I have several porn and music concerts that aren't copy protected. That's a whole other industry. Maybe I should discuss the porn with mmalves though.

 

I know now it's not a ImgBurn issue. If ImgBurn detects this problem, which I am thankful for, possibly the error message could be worded in a way most understand without the need to hunt for support for non-ImgBurn issues?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Who's to say anyone would understand what PTP and OTP means?!

 

I guess I could turn the error into an essay

[Sliztzan]

If this is a specific error for this specific issue a message such as 'you cannot (or should not?) burn this PTP image. Contents must be extracted and burned in build mode for OTP drives' Maybe that would be more helpful for dummies like me.

Edited April 11, 2008 by Sliztzan

[blutach]

But what if it's an OTP image? (as most images are and yours should be if it's a "retail DVD" - well, DVD Video, anyway - a car nav DVD is different and requires PTP media - none exists).

 

Regards

[Sliztzan]

I would think that would be easy enough to tell, without really knowing if thats true, since the way the formats are burned differently. I got the error message before it started burning. I had OPC enabled and I'm not sure if that had anything to do with the recognition of the problem with the disc image.

 

But if the original DVD Video disc is OTP and we use IB to create the image of the OTP disc might we get this error when we go to burn the DVD Video image to a DL DVD or does it only exist with an image created from a PTP DVD Video Disc?

Edited April 12, 2008 by Sliztzan

[blutach]

Not necessarily. We see lots of images mastered incorrectly. And advising the user to get non-existent media is not much use.

 

Regards

[Sliztzan]

Why would media be an issue? The original retail DVD plays fine in my external home DVD player as well in my bedroom DVD player.

[blutach]

In which case it is not a PTP disc. It is normal OTP, dual layer DVD Video. So why the suggestion about PTP?

 

Regards

[LIGHTNING UK!]

If the source is OTP, ImgBurn will always be able to use the LB position from the MDS - as it will always be valid.

 

The only time it can't is if L1 > L0 (which only happens on *some* PTP media) and then it has to fall back to scanning the IFOs / Cells etc trying to find one that is acceptable.

 

When it can't, it then throws up that error box. At this point you have 2 choices (or maybe just 1, I can't remember!):

 

1. Ignore getting a nice LB and just divide the image in 2.

2. Rebuild the image via a virtual drive and Build mode.