Lifemage Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum I have a problem and I'm not sure that it's ImgBurn, but thought maybe someone would know. Every time I go to burn a dvd any flashing images in the film or extremely loud sounds cause the DVD's to skip and freeze on occassion. Everything else plays ok, music and DVD's that have been bought, or even burnt using a different pc, just not ones burnt on this one. All films that are quiet or have no flashing images play without any problems. I have used DVD Shrink and or DVD Flick to create the ISO images that are burnt and both get same errors. I use DVD- or + r, rarely RW but have used them also. I use all differnt kinds of DVDr's, such as Memorex, Verbatim, Kodak, and Tuff Disc. I took my pc and had the burner itself changed, but obviously isn't that and had the pc reformatted as well, so couldn't be any other than ImgBurn since it is the only consistent with everything, at least I think which is why I'm here. I love my horror films, and I need to back up ones I have, but if the DVD freezes when there's a loud sound or flashing lights or images, isn't really worth it so I was hoping someone here could help me, I'd appreciate it. Thank you
LOCOENG Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Do the Verbatims skip, pause and freeze on you?....or is it all brands?
volvofl10 Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 do you mean when you play them on the PC's writer drive or on a stand alone dvd player ? post a log file as well please when you use shrink, how much compression do you apply ?, are you reducing a DV9 down to a DV5 for instance ?
Lifemage Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 To the first question, I use all different brand DVD's when I burn. I don't opt to compress them in that way. I just let it select it automatically to fit onto disc, and even then if it doesn't fit, I don't back it up onto disc. As for a log file, I'll have to do it again, but the log files don't contain any errors at all. I just haven't burnt anything in a few days till I get a good idea as to why it happens this way. I do appreciate your help so later tonight or tomorrow, I'll pick a film I know has many flashing images, such as the club scene in the beginning of XXX (which always skips and freezes up on the back up copy) and show you the log file. Also, it doesn't seem to happen on the pc when I play it back, but it happens in any dvd player or playstation (worse, much worse, on playstation as it won't even play longer than a couple seconds at a time and freezes for up to a whole minute before advancing to the next scene and freezing up straight away). See, the one's I created an ISO for and burnt straight to disc using Nero, I didn't have any problems at all doing it that way, not on pc, dvd player or playstation, but I can't opt to do it that way with other files I download and burn using DVD Flick. Once again, thank you for all your help.
mmalves Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 The software has nothing to do with the burn quality: that depends entirely on the burner, firmware and media used. We know from our experience that Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden blanks are high quality, so using them is a good start. Also make sure your burner has the latest firmware available for it. Most newer burners do better burns at 8x or 12x so try at that speed.
volvofl10 Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 my question about how much do you compress the project by with shrink was because skipping and freezing on playback is a known result of overcompression. just letting it run on AUTO compression in shrink does not rule out over compression though ! the only other symptoms that cause the playback you describe are the player not liking the actual disc ( dye/ink on the disc) its trying to play. Theres a slim possibility that its the laser wearing on the PS causing the freeze and stutter on playback. You need to stick to one brand/type of disc to eliminate the problem being caused by the media. By changing to all differant brands all the time we can't eliminate the possibility of it being low quality media thats the cause of the playback problem. follow mmalves advice above for which ones. A pc that burnt the disc will usually play it back OK, even when a standalone player refuses to.( unless the disc is SO bad in quality) out of the four brands you mentioned you use,theres only 1 of them i would consider using.thats the verbatims, even then verbatim have used CMC and Ritek on -R discs, which is recognised as poor quality ink/dye., Im even wondering if this is a TV broadcast format issue , like playing a PAL TV on a NTFS system( or vice versa) . I know you can use a workaround on a PS so it will play well, but a PC isnt as fussy what TV format the source is in and will play it back without problem, whereas a standalone dvd and TV may struggle.
Lifemage Posted December 10, 2008 Author Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Thank you for your help. I'll try to stick with Verbatim then, unless there's discs out there that's even better. I'm kind of new at burning anyway and is why I leave everything sort of on auto pilot. I'm not new to computers, only to burning and the software, or hardware related to it. The only reason I was using so many different kinds of discs was because of the playback and someone had suggested it might be the cheap discs I was using. Believe it or not, Verbatim was the first used and I haven't tried them again since I had the new burner installed so I will give them another go. I make quite a few home movies and they are for my kids who are thousands of miles away from me, and they were having problems getting them to play at all even though they're burnt region free. I just want to be able to burn things so I'm grateful that you've taken time to help me.Also, if DVD-R sometimes has problems because of the ink/dye, should I be using DVD+R or even the RW's? It's just I heard, (and I know how everyone has their preferences), that RW's were the worst to use and that -R were actually the better of the alternatives and is the only reason I switched. I can't afford this all the time and is why I switch to different discs, which ever is on offer at the time becomes the one used at the time, but I'll stop that if that's part of the problem. I'll also check to see if everything's up to date with the burner as well. Thank you again:D Forgot, I usually burn at 4X's instead of faster speeds, but I'll try it at 8 - 12X's Edited December 10, 2008 by Lifemage
Lifemage Posted December 12, 2008 Author Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) Well, I made sure everything was up to date, changed what disc I was using and now it's not burning at all. I wasn't able to get the log file as it disappeared as soon as I went to click on file to save it, as it always does, but I did type out the error that popped up in a separate window. This is the first time I've ever gotten an error with it. It always burns just not correctly. Now it's not burning at all. Do any of you know what this error means? I/O Error Device:[3:0:0] {Pioneer DVD-RW DVD-215D 1.13 (D:) (ATA) ScsiStatus:0X02 Interpretation: Check Condition CDB: 2A 00 00 02 4C 40 00 00 20 00 Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors: 150592 - 150623 Sense Area: 71 00 03 00 02 49 60 0E 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Interpretation: Write Error This is the second attempt and it's the same error, as in write error that I got the first time, although I think the numerical values were different. Please help. Thank you!! Edited December 12, 2008 by Lifemage
Lifemage Posted December 13, 2008 Author Posted December 13, 2008 I might want to add that I can't find the folder with the log files. I know it's usually in the APP folder under roaming, but the thing is that folder is no longer there and when I try to create the folder again, it states there is already a folder by that name and if I create a new folder that some things may not function. Yet, the problem is, I cannot find that folder anywhere, even in a search. Sill I'd appreciate any help anyone could give me.
techman Posted December 13, 2008 Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) I would download and install Alcohol 52% Free Edition so can mount the .iso image to the emulated CD/DVD drive and see if theres any problem with the image. I use it a lot esp when testing a new iso making program to see if it works ok. Then if it working fine you can troubleshoot your burning setup next. Heres a link to Alcohol http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/ Edited December 13, 2008 by techman
cornholio7 Posted December 13, 2008 Posted December 13, 2008 or use elby then you just install a virtual drive http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_dvd/manual/drive.html free download here http://files.elby.ch/download/SetupVirtualCloneDrive5.exe
Lifemage Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 Thank you very much and I'm going to install them now. I do appreciate all the help you are giving me. Cheers!!
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