Pioneer DVR-115D reading problem

[bpinnsvin]

Have installed latest ImageBurn 2.4.2.0 and burned an .ISO file with it on my Pioneer DVR-115D. The burning seemed to be ok...I had set the speed to 6x..it dropped down to 2.4-2.5 in the middle, but got up to 6 again right after.

 

So, I tried to verify the burn. Before it reached halfway it slowed down to 2.4x and continued to verify at this speed. I tried afterwards to read the disc, and before it reached halfway it slowed down too to approx. 3x and continued to read at that speed.

 

I then tried reading it with DVD Decrypter and it ripped fine, the speed slowly rising until the end of the disc.

 

Why doesn't ImgBurn read this burn (and others burns I've tried) properly with my Pioneer DVR-115D ? Is there some setting I've have to "check" ? It seems so strange since it works so fine with DVD Decrypter.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

No idea.

 

Can you post the graph data file?

 

Either the IBG itself or what it looks like when you open it with DVDInfoPro.

[bpinnsvin]

Ok, I've never used this program before, so if I'm uploading the wrong file please tell.

test.ibg

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You need to look in the Help menu within the program.

 

'Graph Data' should then be pretty obvious.

 

That said, you appear to have sent the correct file.

 

Ok now you need to go into Verify mode, uncheck the option to verify against and image file and then verify again.

 

I'm guessing it's going slow because your machine can't keep up with doing both at the same time or something - that's why the graph is all over the place.

 

You could try updating the firmware on your drive too. v1.22 is out now.

[bpinnsvin]

You need to look in the Help menu within the program.

 

'Graph Data' should then be pretty obvious.

 

That said, you appear to have sent the correct file.

 

Ok now you need to go into Verify mode, uncheck the option to verify against and image file and then verify again.

 

I'm guessing it's going slow because your machine can't keep up with doing both at the same time or something - that's why the graph is all over the place.

 

You could try updating the firmware on your drive too. v1.22 is out now.

 

 

Ok. I will try that later tonight. But the graph I sendt you should be of ImgBurn reading a DVD, not verifying. And if you have the adress for the newest firmware, please post it. Can't seem to find it myself.

Edited December 11, 2008 by bpinnsvin

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Same difference really.

 

Read mode just writes what it reads to a file.

 

It's all the same commands going to the drive - well 1 command repeated over and over and over again with an increasing address of where to read from on the disc.

 

For the firmware just goto the pioneer download site.

 

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/support/...t/software.html

[bpinnsvin]

Same difference really.

 

Read mode just writes what it reads to a file.

 

It's all the same commands going to the drive - well 1 command repeated over and over and over again with an increasing address of where to read from on the disc.

 

For the firmware just goto the pioneer download site.

 

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/support/...t/software.html

 

Ok. But how will unchecking a feature in verify improve the reading speed when I'm only reading the disc, not verifying it ? When reading, I guess it's not comparing to any imagefile ?

Edited December 11, 2008 by bpinnsvin

[bpinnsvin]

Ok. I've upgraded the firmware and did a verify as you suggested and it went fine. Then I tried to read the disc and it didn't go to well...Why ? The ibg files for the two operations are attached.

 

The machine I use : Pentium P4 2.66 Ghz, 1 GB ram, Win XP SP3

 

Edit :

 

I might have found the reason for the slowing down. As you said earlier Lightning UK, it could be someting to do with the speed of the system. And I think you're right.

 

I ripped the DVD with DVDDecrypter again to see if it worked ok there, and it did, BUT it never went over 11-11.5x in ripping speed. The Pioneer DVR-115D rips up to 16x and does so in the Verifying example attached to this post. But that is verifying without storing anything on the computer. And when I try to read from the drive, it gets up to approx. 11x before it slows down (alot, unfortunally). That, I think, is because the computer cannot store the data fast enough to keep up with the drive. Its a bit strange since the harddrives are UDMA Mode 5 drives, but the teory fits.

 

I'm writing this edit on another machine and cannot test this teory yet, but I'm gonna set the reading speed on this drive to 10x, 11x and 12x instead of MAX later this evening, and see what happens.

 

One question though : If this is right, why doesn't ImgBurn stay at the "max" speed it can get from the system like DVD Decrypter does ?

Test_Verify_Without_ImageFile.ibg

Test_Normal_Read.ibg

Edited December 11, 2008 by bpinnsvin

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The drive is slowing itself down, it's not ImgBurn that's doing it.

 

ImgBurn will always read as quickly as it possibly can.

 

Basically, because the drive can't 'stream' the data off at the rate it wants to, ImgBurn's buffer will no doubt be filling up or something and because the drive has to keep stopping and starting it's just messing things up and the speed then drops to one it *can* stream at.

 

Is your DVD drive on the same channel / cable as the hdd you're writing to? Is the drive correctly connected to the 'master' position on the cable and set as 'master' via the jumper?

 

Have you tried uninstalling your ide controller from within device manager and rebooting?

[bpinnsvin]

The drive is slowing itself down, it's not ImgBurn that's doing it.

 

ImgBurn will always read as quickly as it possibly can.

 

Basically, because the drive can't 'stream' the data off at the rate it wants to, ImgBurn's buffer will no doubt be filling up or something and because the drive has to keep stopping and starting it's just messing things up and the speed then drops to one it *can* stream at.

 

Is your DVD drive on the same channel / cable as the hdd you're writing to? Is the drive correctly connected to the 'master' position on the cable and set as 'master' via the jumper?

 

Have you tried uninstalling your ide controller from within device manager and rebooting?

 

The DVD-drive is not on the same channel as the hard drive is. The harddrives is on the primary IDE Channel and my 2 DVD Drives (Pioneer DVR-111D and the Pioneer DVR-115D) are on the secondary. The DVR-115D was slave before, but is now master in my attempts to get it to work properly (didn't change a thing). I tried to uninstall the ide-controller and rebooted...same result (no change).

 

The thing here is that it seems to be the harddrive which doesn't get to write the data fast enough or something like that. THEN I remembered I used to have the biggest harddrive connected to an PCI ATA 133 IDE Controller and as I recall, it "seemed" faster then and I thought maybe it would be better if the data ripped was sent to another controller than the one on the mainboard. I still had the card, so I installed it and connected the large harddrive to it (which I write most of my data). Restarted, installed drivers, and tested reading with ImgBurn from the Pioneer DVR-115D drive to the drive with the new controllercard and it worked! The speed slowly rising the whole time until it stopped at 16x.

 

So I finally found a solution. Thanx for all the suggestions. I attached the latest ibg if it is of interest.

success.ibg