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should i just go and claim my warranty and get free blu rays? yea lol

I guess you meant 24,220,000,000?

in my experience sometimes the drive wants to burn at 16x and sometimes it does not and only gives me 12x. its very weird. also for some reason my Verbs are giving me only 24,220,000 bytes instead of the 25gb (25,000,000 bytes)

I believe 1.05 was what I last tested with. I don't know if I burned at 16x or not. I used the maximum burning speeds. I know the LG and ASUS even though they say they burn at 16x BD-R only actually burn at 12x max to BD-R. Oh, I was not aware Pioneer had stopped making drives. That explains why the no new firmware updates in like 2 years. I use the ASUS BW-16D1HT half height internal BD burner in a VanTech USB enclosure. Unfortunately, LG's WH16NS40 is the only other good option and it has issues of its own. The NS60 used to be better than the NS40 but 1.) LG no longer makes it and 2.) the NS40 has issues of its own.

i think its because burning at 16x is just not stable. at 2x and 4x is fine and burned perfectly. i have the latest firmware btw is that matters (1.05 for the 2213). either way pioneer stopped making their drives so fixing it is just hoping that is werks. i do want to test the pioneer with some 24x cd-rws. what drive are you using right nwo to burn/scan?

Well, if you're using the DataLife Plus ones and Verbatim doesn't make non-DataLife Plus inkjet printable BD-R, then it must be the drive. However, you said you bought these May of last year? That was back when they were quality blue and white branded surface. I tried the 2213 briefly. It had no problems with the blue and white branded discs I threw at it, but Pioneer is known to bork their firmware. So, it's possible they released a firmware update since then that broke Verbatim BD-R. I returned my 2213 for other issues. 8x DVD+R DL that only write at 2.4x. 8x DVD+RW that only write at 6x. And Pioneer seems to have ceased development on their firmware, so if it is an issue requiring a firmware update, no apparent fix is probably forthcoming. Pioneer has made terrible drives for over a decade now. For over a decade, they had issues where 8x DVD+RW were not written correctly. This WAS initially fixed by the 2213, but it had other issues. And still does, like reborking the 8x DVD+RW firmware so it only writes at 6x.

not really true. i burned many blank branded disks and they worked fine before in multiple optical drives. and i bought my disks at may 26th last year, and they where produced earlier so i doupt. i also have printable ones with me but they are the same. the printables cost a bit more because of the paper it uses. also the pioneer bruned the blu ray disk before at 2x completly fine and my BIS/LDC scans where very good.

You're probably using the blue and white branded Verbatim BD-R. Up until around the middle of last year, those were impeccable discs; not anymore. They are utter junk now. What you need are the Verbatim DataLife Plus BD-R. Unfortunately, you pay a premium on those since they only come in inkjet printable variety, and you probably won't print any labels to them. However, they are the only quality BD-R Verbatim makes anymore.

just today my (last) pioneer 2213 got to me and i have been having fun with it after dealing with shitty LG's the whole last year. anyways i tried burning my VERBAT-IMe disks at 16x, it worked but got this weird error that i skipped after retrying a few times. burned and verified succesfully. heres the log:

I've got an idea, but I need to see the Log entry first for the burn in question.

I/O Error! Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RC00 (F:) (USB) ScsiStatus: 0x02 Interpretation: Check Condition CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors: 0-31 Sense Area: 71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 00 00 SK Interpretation: Medium Error ASC/ASCQ Interpretation: Power Calibration Area Error Any help how to fix this

Life happens. Yeah, the Initializing, Writing LeadIn, and Finalizing steps are somewhat random in terms of how long they can take from burn to burn. Sometimes they're quick, sometimes not so much. Just let them run, as you did.

@dbminter A lot of time has passed since my last post, and I apologise for not posting a follow-up sooner. I got distracted by other issues! Anyway, so far I've burnt 6 of the new 25-spindle of DataLife Plus BD-R DL discs I got from Amazon, and all of them were successful. While I appreciate this is certainly no guarantee that they are 100% reliable, they are definitely better than the previous blue/white Verbatim discs that I had, so for me, it's a win so far! The only "hiccup" I had was on the second disc I burnt. When ImgBurn "finalized" the discs it took anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds to complete on five of the discs. With the second disc, however, the drive kept revving up and slowing down again, over and over, with the screen remaining on "finalizing". I recalled comments from other people that had said "let it run", so I did just that. I walked away and left it. About 10 minutes later from the other end of the house I heard ImgBurn's little jingle it plays on completion, and I returned to find it had completed successfully. The disc plays back fine on my Sony 4K blu-ray player with no issues, so I have no idea why finalization took so long. I don't currently have any more stuff to burn that requires a DL disc, so I'm not sure when my next burn will be. I just wanted to let you know that the discs appear to be working well and to say thanks once again for your help!

Good! Glad it worked. That it was the drive in question and not the disc. I had figured it was, most likely, a drive issue, as opposed to the disc not being readable.

Nevermind I ripped it.

Depends on what you mean by "pull the file without corruption." Are you getting any kind of errors from ImgBurn? If so, what are they? And is this on the ASUS you said you had to try?

its working but I cant pull the file without corruption. what now?

It's hard to say for certain. Could be a fault in the hardware or it could simply be the laser in the unit isn't very good to begin with. Since it can read some CD-RW but not most of the others you tested, that's more odds on average a fault in the device. However, you wouldn't be able to tell unless you got another one of these units and tested it. Otherwise, it would be down to the laser used in the device. It's having a reflectivity issue reading those CD-RW's. Which would mean if you wanted to use those particular CD-RW's, you'd have to try a different model of drive.

I own this recorder. Where cd-rws are concerned, it does not read from TDK,Traxdata and Smartbuy. It always says 'Disc Error'. But strange enough it reads Maxell cd-rws. May this be a fault in the recorder? Another recorder that I own, Teac cd recorder does read all the mentioned brands. When recording normal cd-rs, it works on all brands. Your views are solicited please.

For anyone else looking for a similar solution, there's a Guide that explains this fairly well:

Yes i follow this

I did a little digging into your MATSHITA drive. It's a slim model drive, but it doesn't appear to be external. Did you put this drive in an external enclosure yourself? It could be just that someone put that model into an enclosure for you and sold it that way.

I think its older. So It might not be. I think its the device itself. Not powerful enough to read. Its fine I just bought another stronger external from Asus itself.

You're best off getting a different make and model USB drive. That way you have a better shot and of determining if the disc itself might have gone bad. Also, as I said, if you're not certain your drive is USB 3.0, although as a BD, it should be, you may want to check that it's connected to a USB 3.x port and make sure.

crap. well thank you for your time. I just have to buy another one now. unfortunately I don't have multiple like a self respecting gamer should. I will reopen this if it doesn't work with a different drive