ultramegaburningenthiseist

impossible for me to find the NS60 drives these days so i cant speak on experience.

heres the link to the wh16ns58 on amazon: https://a.co/d/3JZJB36 it looks like a OEMed drive from Vinpower digital, a duplication company and it explicitly stated it should be better at burning disks and should support scanning. prob custom firmware also.

your best bet is to buy a used external pioneer off ebay for now if you want good dual layer burning quality.

i actually bought the wh14n40 last year for like 50 bucks new on amazon when it was on sale. even buying it for 60 on newegg feels like a scam. btw i sold the wh14ns40 drive for the wh16ns58 (for BD scanning ability) its obvious its an LG drive that Asus OEMed since the structure is the same and the pcb is the same. the only difference is firmware. even that you could flash the firmware from the LG's into the asus and it will work fine since it has the same chipset. my only guess to the price hike is tariffs but that might kill the blu ray industry if they keep raising prices.

Pioneer is out of the business, so its no longer an option, and LG is crap at making blu ray drives for multi-layer blu ray burning. any alternatives? i suspect Verbatim will notice the drives they OEM from (LG) will start to make their customers being unsatisfied with the burns and will start complaining, which will force verbatim to demand LG to make their drives higher quality to properly burn discs. (Best case scenario) or this might be the end of blu ray burning.

Asus OEM's drives from LG. so LG is the only manufacturer of blu ray burners. also i noticed LG not selling their drives on Amazon. the only drives i see from them is newegg, which is weird since i always see lg on amazons website, they also raised their prices on their external burners.

i think my opinion/guess is that its prob just a bad batch. il most likely buy verbatim's branded media once Amazon Prime Day sales start, and then il test them if they are the same. i will also be visually checking them to see if they are using the same burning "die" even though its not. il also do some LDC/BIS scanning to see if they return the same quality or not. i usually save results to compare them in the future. though im not worried since i also have some printable disks i bought like last year and i also recently bought the last spindle of sony BD-Rs and 128GB disks.

should i just go and claim my warranty and get free blu rays? yea lol

in my experience sometimes the drive wants to burn at 16x and sometimes it does not and only gives me 12x. its very weird. also for some reason my Verbs are giving me only 24,220,000 bytes instead of the 25gb (25,000,000 bytes)

i think its because burning at 16x is just not stable. at 2x and 4x is fine and burned perfectly. i have the latest firmware btw is that matters (1.05 for the 2213). either way pioneer stopped making their drives so fixing it is just hoping that is werks. i do want to test the pioneer with some 24x cd-rws. what drive are you using right nwo to burn/scan?

not really true. i burned many blank branded disks and they worked fine before in multiple optical drives. and i bought my disks at may 26th last year, and they where produced earlier so i doupt. i also have printable ones with me but they are the same. the printables cost a bit more because of the paper it uses. also the pioneer bruned the blu ray disk before at 2x completly fine and my BIS/LDC scans where very good.

just today my (last) pioneer 2213 got to me and i have been having fun with it after dealing with shitty LG's the whole last year. anyways i tried burning my VERBAT-IMe disks at 16x, it worked but got this weird error that i skipped after retrying a few times. burned and verified succesfully. heres the log: