Wow, I must be more computer illiterate than I realized. I used DVD DeCrypter and DVD Shrink to burn DVDs for quite a while, but haven't burned any for a year or so. DeCrypter of course didn't work, and found ImgBurn, but I must be truly dumb, read FAQ's and guides, still not sure how to copy and burn a DVD. Tried what I thought would work and it seemed to copy fine to the hard drive, but when I wrote to the DVD, it won't play with WinDVD 6. I give up trying to figure it out--can you give me the short version of the steps, from copy to burn? And, do I need DVD Shrink for the DVD's at all? Sorry I seem to be having such a hard time with this, but I am sure I am not alone. Thanks for your help