lklawrie Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Replaced my original DVD drive with this (was having problems -- could burn a DVD but then it wouldn't verify -- could not see a dvd in drive when starting to verify). Now have tried several in the new drive. Blu-ray, DVD-R, DVD - double layer. All of them are getting the following error on verify. Have tried to find better drivers, but failing. Tried uninstalling the drive and let Windows (10) find one. This one is from 2006. Here is my typical log. Did not realize imgburn.log appends. so here is two from today. In both cases, I try a couple retries and then cancel. It seems like the burn is okay. (Long time IMGBURN user) Attached my burn log here as well. Linda ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Thursday, 27 April 2023, 14:04:18 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 12:39:51 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 12:39:51 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200) I 12:39:51 Total Physical Memory: 12,580,500 KiB - Available: 1,299,596 KiB I 12:39:51 Initialising SPTI... I 12:39:51 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:39:53 -> Drive 1 - Info: PLDS DVD-ROM DH-16D2S JD11 (F:) (SATA) I 12:39:53 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.02-ID06 (G:) (SATA) I 12:39:53 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! I 12:40:18 Operation Started! I 12:40:18 Building Image Tree... I 12:41:32 Calculating Totals... I 12:41:32 Preparing Image... I 12:42:07 Contents: 15,836 Files, 81 Folders I 12:42:07 Content Type: Data I 12:42:07 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 12:42:07 File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 12:42:07 Volume Label: Eudora I 12:42:07 Size: 7,882,713,319 bytes I 12:42:07 Sectors: 3,857,150 I 12:42:07 Image Size: 7,934,050,304 bytes I 12:42:07 Image Sectors: 3,874,048 I 12:42:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:03 I 12:42:21 Operation Started! I 12:42:21 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:42:21 Source File Sectors: 3,874,048 (MODE1/2048) I 12:42:21 Source File Size: 7,934,050,304 bytes I 12:42:21 Source File Volume Identifier: Eudora I 12:42:21 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 569B6507003B1CFE I 12:42:21 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 12:42:21 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:42:21 Source File File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 12:42:21 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.02 (G:) (SATA) I 12:42:21 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) I 12:42:21 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x I 12:42:22 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 12:42:22 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes) I 12:42:22 Write Mode: DVD I 12:42:22 Write Type: DAO I 12:42:22 Write Speed: 2.4x I 12:42:22 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No I 12:42:22 Link Size: Auto I 12:42:22 Lock Volume: Yes I 12:42:22 Test Mode: No I 12:42:22 OPC: No I 12:42:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:42:22 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) I 12:42:22 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 12:42:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,937,024 I 12:42:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 12:42:40 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 12:42:40 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 1,937,024 I 12:42:41 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 12:43:27 Writing LeadIn... I 12:43:29 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3874047) I 12:43:29 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3874047) I 12:43:29 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1937023) W 12:50:01 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 595104) W 12:50:34 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 12:50:46 Writing Sectors... I 13:04:49 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1937024 - 3874047) I 13:25:15 Synchronising Cache... I 13:25:16 Closing Track... I 13:25:17 Finalising Disc... I 13:26:26 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:26:26 Graph Data File: C:\Users\lklawrie\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-212V_1.02_THURSDAY-APRIL-27-2023_12-42_PM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg I 13:26:26 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:26:26 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:44:04 I 13:26:26 Average Write Rate: 3,093 KiB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,296 KiB/s (2.4x) I 13:26:26 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 13:26:41 Device Ready! I 13:26:42 Operation Started! I 13:26:42 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.02 (G:) (SATA) I 13:26:42 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) I 13:26:42 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 8x I 13:26:42 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x I 13:26:42 Source Media Sectors: 3,874,048 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 1,937,024 - L1: 1,937,024) I 13:26:42 Source Media Size: 7,934,050,304 bytes I 13:26:42 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 13:26:42 Image File Sectors: 3,874,048 (MODE1/2048) I 13:26:42 Image File Size: 7,934,050,304 bytes I 13:26:42 Image File Volume Identifier: Eudora I 13:26:42 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 569B6507003B1CFE I 13:26:42 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 13:26:42 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 13:26:42 Image File File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 13:26:42 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 13:26:43 Read Speed - Effective: 3.3x - 8x I 13:26:44 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3874047) I 13:26:44 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3874047) I 13:26:44 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1937023) W 13:35:50 Failed to Read Sectors 998048 - 998079 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 13:35:56 Failed to Read Sector 998048 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 13:35:56 Sector 998048 maps to File: \Attach\Protection Report 20220614-20220614.pdf W 14:03:43 Retrying (1)... I 14:03:43 Verifying Sectors... W 14:03:50 Failed to Read Sectors 998368 - 998399 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 14:03:55 Failed to Read Sector 998384 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 14:03:55 Sector 998384 maps to File: \Attach\Protection Report 20220621-20220621.pdf E 14:04:00 Failed to Read Sector 998384 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 14:04:00 Sector 998384 maps to File: \Attach\Protection Report 20220621-20220621.pdf E 14:04:00 Failed to Verify Sectors! I 14:04:01 Exporting Graph Data... I 14:04:01 Graph Data File: C:\Users\lklawrie\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-212V_1.02_THURSDAY-APRIL-27-2023_12-42_PM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg I 14:04:01 Export Successfully Completed! E 14:04:01 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:37:17 I 14:04:01 Average Verify Rate: 893 KiB/s (0.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 13,571 KiB/s (10.0x) I 14:04:17 Close Request Acknowledged I 14:04:17 Closing Down... I 14:04:18 Shutting down SPTI... I 14:04:18 ImgBurn closed! ; ; ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Thursday, 27 April 2023, 12:09:18 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 11:38:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 11:38:39 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200) I 11:38:39 Total Physical Memory: 12,580,500 KiB - Available: 2,652,668 KiB I 11:38:39 Initialising SPTI... I 11:38:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 11:38:39 -> Drive 1 - Info: PLDS DVD-ROM DH-16D2S JD11 (F:) (SATA) I 11:38:41 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.00-ID06 (G:) (SATA) I 11:38:41 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! I 11:39:09 Operation Started! I 11:39:09 Building Image Tree... I 11:39:56 Calculating Totals... I 11:39:56 Preparing Image... I 11:40:31 Contents: 15,835 Files, 81 Folders I 11:40:31 Content Type: Data I 11:40:31 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 11:40:31 File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 11:40:31 Volume Label: Eudora I 11:40:31 Size: 7,881,730,556 bytes I 11:40:31 Sectors: 3,856,669 I 11:40:31 Image Size: 7,933,067,264 bytes I 11:40:31 Image Sectors: 3,873,568 I 11:40:40 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:30 W 11:40:47 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to underburn! I 11:40:47 Operation Started! I 11:40:47 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 11:40:47 Source File Sectors: 3,873,568 (MODE1/2048) I 11:40:47 Source File Size: 7,933,067,264 bytes I 11:40:47 Source File Volume Identifier: Eudora I 11:40:47 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 569B5CE1003B1B1C I 11:40:47 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 11:40:47 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 11:40:47 Source File File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 11:40:47 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.00 (G:) (SATA) I 11:40:47 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-000) I 11:40:47 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x I 11:40:47 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392 I 11:40:47 Write Mode: BD I 11:40:47 Write Type: DAO I 11:40:47 Write Speed: 2.4x I 11:40:47 Hardware Defect Management Active: No I 11:40:47 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes I 11:40:47 Link Size: Auto I 11:40:47 Lock Volume: Yes I 11:40:47 Test Mode: No I 11:40:47 OPC: No I 11:40:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled W 11:40:47 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 10,789 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 8,990 KB/s (2x) W 11:40:47 The drive only supports writing these discs at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x. I 11:40:47 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 11:40:49 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 11:41:31 Writing LeadIn... I 11:41:43 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3873567) I 11:41:43 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3873567) W 11:43:11 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 353024) W 11:43:20 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:43:23 Writing Sectors... W 11:47:21 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 1353504) W 11:47:39 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:47:40 Writing Sectors... W 11:48:06 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 1437024) W 11:48:33 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:48:35 Writing Sectors... W 11:49:03 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 1526464) W 11:49:24 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:49:30 Writing Sectors... W 11:50:58 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 1807936) W 11:51:15 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:51:17 Writing Sectors... W 11:53:20 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 2228544) W 11:53:46 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:53:50 Writing Sectors... W 11:55:20 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 2563616) W 11:55:47 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:55:55 Writing Sectors... W 11:56:32 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 2687904) W 11:56:48 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... I 11:57:25 Writing Sectors... I 12:02:16 Synchronising Cache... I 12:02:17 Closing Track... I 12:02:19 Finalising Disc... I 12:04:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 12:04:44 Graph Data File: C:\Users\lklawrie\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-212V_1.00_THURSDAY-APRIL-27-2023_11-40_AM_CMCMAG-BA3-000_2.4x.ibg I 12:04:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 12:04:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:56 I 12:04:44 Average Write Rate: 6,288 KiB/s (1.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,823 KiB/s (2.0x) I 12:04:44 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 12:04:56 Device Ready! I 12:04:57 Operation Started! I 12:04:57 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.00 (G:) (SATA) I 12:04:57 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-000) I 12:04:57 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 12x I 12:04:57 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x I 12:04:57 Source Media Sectors: 3,873,568 I 12:04:57 Source Media Size: 7,933,067,264 bytes I 12:04:57 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:04:57 Image File Sectors: 3,873,568 (MODE1/2048) I 12:04:57 Image File Size: 7,933,067,264 bytes I 12:04:57 Image File Volume Identifier: Eudora I 12:04:57 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 569B5CE1003B1B1C I 12:04:57 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 12:04:57 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:04:57 Image File File System(s): UDF (1.02) I 12:04:57 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 12:04:58 Read Speed - Effective: 5x - 12x I 12:04:58 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3873567) I 12:04:58 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3873567) W 12:05:10 Failed to Read Sectors 15584 - 15615 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:05:13 Failed to Read Sector 15584 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:06:21 Failed to Read Sectors 20976 - 21007 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:06:43 Failed to Read Sectors 32720 - 32751 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:06:46 Failed to Read Sectors 34416 - 34447 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:03 Failed to Read Sectors 38352 - 38383 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:09 Failed to Read Sectors 39312 - 39343 - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0x1E) W 12:07:12 Failed to Read Sector 39328 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:12 Sector 39328 maps to File: \Colo-Springs-Info-Zillow.mbx W 12:07:24 Retrying (1)... I 12:07:27 Verifying Sectors... W 12:07:30 Failed to Read Sectors 39456 - 39487 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:38 Failed to Read Sectors 40480 - 40511 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:42 Failed to Read Sectors 42592 - 42623 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:46 Failed to Read Sector 42592 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 12:07:46 Sector 42592 maps to File: \Colo-Springs-Info-Zillow.mbx E 12:09:13 Failed to Read Sector 42592 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 12:09:13 Sector 42592 maps to File: \Colo-Springs-Info-Zillow.mbx E 12:09:13 Failed to Verify Sectors! I 12:09:15 Exporting Graph Data... I 12:09:15 Graph Data File: C:\Users\lklawrie\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-212V_1.00_THURSDAY-APRIL-27-2023_11-40_AM_CMCMAG-BA3-000_2.4x.ibg I 12:09:15 Export Successfully Completed! E 12:09:15 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:16 I 12:09:15 Average Verify Rate: 334 KiB/s (0.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,876 KiB/s (1.3x) I 12:09:17 Close Request Acknowledged I 12:09:17 Closing Down... I 12:09:18 Shutting down SPTI... I 12:09:18 ImgBurn closed! ; ImgBurn.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I would first check for a firmware update to the Pioneer drive. In Write mode, right click on the Pioneer drive and choose the last option in the context menu for checking for a firmware update. Apply that if found and see if that helps. You don't really have an apples to apples comparisons in all of these logs. You're using both good discs, the MKM's, and trash discs, CMC. However, you're getting it on good discs, which isn't normal. CMC errors are WAY too common. But, NOT on MKM's. Barring that, I can only recommend trying the LG WH16NS60, if you can find it, which is what I use. If not, try the WH16NS40, which you can probably still find, but note last time I tried it years ago, it did NOT write properly to double layer BD-R and BD-RE, even though it claims to support them. Note these two LG drives are BD burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 Should have noted that I have updated the firmware that I found on a website. BDR-212V_FW102EU.exe Looking on the firmware updates from IMGBURN did not find one. I have another possible firmware. But have not put that in yet. Yes, I can return this one and get another. But would be nicer to figure out the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 The BDR-212 is actually a BD burner. The 212V is not listed on Pioneer's firmware site, but the BDR-2212 has as its latest firmware 1.2.0.005. And other BDR lines have like 1.04 as opposed to your listed 1.00. You could try the firmware here: https://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00001r_e.html#firmware1 Note if the firmware does not support your drive, the firmware update package will not alter your drive as it won't allow anything to happen to it. I recommended the LG line because it has the least amount of problems with it, and none fatal, except for the NS40 which didn't write to double layer BD media correctly.. Unlike Pioneer drives which for the past 10 years have had unaddressed firmware borks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 The 212V appears to be a Vinpower exclusive drive, so the firmware would come from here: https://www.vinpowerdigital.com/downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 That is what I downloaded and installed: 1.02 as shown in my name of the firmware above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 You're currently on 1.00. You might as well try updating to 1.02. If it isn't firmware for your drive, it will most likely simply say it can't flash your drive, so nothing bad would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 As noted in the log, I believe I have the 1.02 firmware installed: I 14:49:32 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.02 (G:) (SATA) I have tried another software, it said it had errors reading (similar to ImgBurn) but did not show what files it had errors on. I would hate to give up on ImgBurn but maybe buying another new drive will help. I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Oh, that's my bad. I was going by the end of the log where it says this: I 12:04:57 Source Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-212V 1.00 (G:) (SATA) I see later on you must have applied the 1.02 update. Another drive would isolate if it's the Pioneer's problem. That's why I recommended what I use. I know they "work" but that only means they "work" for me. They may not "work" for you. But, with a baseline, if they don't work for you, then that would probably help isolate if it's something else that is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 WH16NS60 does not appear to be currently available on places I can return it easily. WH16NS40 seems to be available and someone flashed the WH16NS60 firmware into the WH16NS40. I live in a very rural area. Do not have readily available electronics store (ref: Walmart.....ugh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 As I said, the NS60 doesn't seem to be available anywhere. I couldn't find it on either Amazon.com or NewEgg.com when I last looked, but the NS40 was available on Amazon.com. Amazon's really good with their return policy. I recently tried out a Pioneer 213 and had to return it because Pioneer borked the firmware AGAIN! After a decade of borked DVD+RW firmware, they HAD fixed it on the 213, but BORKED BD-R, DVD+R DL, and CD-R. The latest firmware fixed all these issues but BORKED DVD+RW again! Amazon accepted my return with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 So is the NS40 a decent drive? Yes, we use Amazon because of their return policies and that we have a UPS store quite locally. (I almost asked you what burner software you use but .... LOL)😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Well, I haven't used the NS40 in years. What made me stop using it was despite it saying it supported double layer BD burning, 9 times out of 10, it fails. And it wasn't just me. Others on this board reported similar behavior. However, in the years since, firmware updates might have addressed this issue. So, if you're not ever concerned with burning BD-R DL or BD-RE DL, the NS40 was the drive I was using for a long time. I don't have a need to burn DL BD media anymore now that I've moved from BD-RE to flash drives and USB SSD's. So, the NS40 would probably meet my needs unless they borked the firmware for other media since, like Pioneer does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 So the Pioneer drive is on its way back to Amazon. Do you have any opinion on the WH16NS40 vs the WH16NS40k? I can't find the WH16NS40 vs the WH16NS60 anywhere i feel comfortable from ordering from (yet) I burn so seldomly. It seems like the Pioneer and my old original Toshiba/Samsung drive burned properly but wouldn't verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I've never heard of a WH16NS40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 A question on Amazon asked the difference and the answer was "speed" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CJV9KPL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/LG-Super-Internal-Blu-ray-Rewriter/dp/B00E7B08MS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=28MOH8CNBNZBJ&keywords=WH16NS40&qid=1682803074&s=electronics&sprefix=wh16ns40%2Celectronics%2C215&sr=1-3&th=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 From what I can tell, the main difference with the 40k is it's a triple and quad layer supported BD drive. The NS40 I had was not. The NS60's selling point is precisely that. The 40K appeared to be a 4K supported BD drive, which needs to be able to ready triple and quad layer BD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 18 hours ago, dbminter said: From what I can tell, the main difference with the 40k is it's a triple and quad layer supported BD drive. The NS40 I had was not. The NS60's selling point is precisely that. The 40K appeared to be a 4K supported BD drive, which needs to be able to ready triple and quad layer BD. We will see. One is on order -- will be here later this week. Crossing fingers and paws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Well, the 40K is overpriced at $150. That's about double the price of the NS60 when it was available, and that was a 4K capable drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 Prices I've seen for the NS60 range upwards toward $200 USD. If you can even get them. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7608316749240681/ ($194 USD) BH Photo Video expects them to be in stock middle of June 2023 but will only sell in multiples of 10 ($75 unit price) And then we have the ebay: LG WH16NS40 Flashed to WH16NS60 Firmware v1.00 4K UHD FRIENDLY MAKEMKV & DVD FAB Is this a joke? https://www.provantage.com/lg-electronics-wh16ns60~7LGED052.htm ($976) Okay, enough searching the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I paid $115 for the last one I got on Amazon.com, back in November of 2021. So, I my memory was off as to how much I had paid for it last time. I believe the current prices reflect the state of the market. That LG has probably discontinued the NS60. Even LG's Where To Buy page, when you click on it, shows no one selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 First of the new drives arrived ASUS BW-16D1HT -- wrote a DVD-R successfully and verified. YAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Unfortunately, if you intend to write to DVD+R DL, that ASUS will fail at the Verify at the layer change. It needs a firmware update to fix this, which I've TOLD them they need, but they refuse to update it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklawrie Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 Decided to test a DVD+R DL with the ASUS drive. Was successful. See attached log. Ignore first times as I kept opening one of the files which would certainly fail verify. ImgBurn_DL.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Here's probably why your burn was successful: I 12:03:26 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) You were using the 2.4x speed discs. I was using the 8x discs. Disc ID: MKM-003-00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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