kittykat23 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I created a 4 episode on DVD FAB and made a customized menu. DVD Burned fine. It plays on any drive connected to my computer but will NOT Play on the Sony DVD player I have connected to my TV. Just a blenk screen, no messges, nothing. don't know what file to submit. snapshots of one of the dvds follow: HL-DT-STBD-RE_BT10N GNOB (USB) Current Profile: BD-ROM Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 10,343,200 Size: 21,182,873,600 bytes lime: 2298:31:25 (MM:SS:FF) MID: VERBAT-IMe-000 Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 10343199) -> LeadOut (LBA: 10343200) Disc Definition Structure: Certified: No Scanned: No Manufacturers Name: PIONEER Additional ID: BD-RW BDR-212V Serial Number: ADDL010097WL BD Disc Information: Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000 Disc Type: BD-R Disc Size: 120 mm Disc Class: 0 Disc Version: 1 Disc Time Stamp: 03/2010 Number of Layers: 1 Layer Type: Writable DVD Layer Present: No CD Laver Present: No Channel Bit Length: 74.50 nm (25 GB Per Layer) Push-Pull Polarity: Positive Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL| BCA Present: Yes Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072 Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494 Performance (Write Speed): Descriptor 1... - > BO: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 - > EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF) - > RS: 26,973 KB/s (6x) - WS: 8,991 KB/s (2x) Descriptor 2... - > B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 - > EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF) - > RS: 26.973 KB/s (6x) - WS: 17.982 KB/s (4x) Descriptor 3... - > BO: 0x02, B1:0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 - > EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF) - > RS: 26,973 KB/s (6x) - WS: 26,974 KB/s (6x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Are you creating a DVD Video or a Blu-Ray Video? You mention DVD's, but the media information you provide is for Blu-Ray. If you've created VIDEO_TS DVD Video files and you burned them to a Blu-Ray recordable disc, then a Blu-Ray player will not play them. Sony specifically created the player standard to avoid doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 Trying to create a BD-25 Blue Ray DVD with 4 files as input for 4 separate episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 When you say "4 files as input for 4 separate episodes" are you just burning the 4 container files to the BD or are you converting them to Blu-Ray Video first with a converter software? If you're doing the former, then popping in the BD won't automatically cause it to play. Your player has to support natively playing container files. Also, you're mixing terms. Blu-Ray and DVD are two different media formats. It's either or. Another thing, you say your Sony player is a DVD player. Are you sure it's not a Blu-Ray player instead? If it IS a DVD player only, then putting a BD in a DVD player definitely won't be recognized by a DVD only player. And, as I said, if you're making a VIDEO_TS DVD Video but burning it to BD, a BD player won't play it as a DVD, even though it will do it the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 No conversion 1. open dvd fab 2. click Creator 3. click Blu-ray Creator. crop files onto box wigh + in it. From the directory DVDFAb, StraamFab, Output, Amazon, under the folder The Marvelous Mrs_ Maisel. 1_Go Forward.mp4 2_lt's a Man, Man, Man, Man World.mp4 See Image Then I click Start. BD-25 Is created and will work on computer but NOT on Sony DVD Player NOTE BR Disks created with Nero will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 thought i filled out everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Well, I'm still not getting a clear answer on if you're putting a Blu-Ray into a DVD player. You say it's a Sony DVD player, but DVD players won't play Blu-Rays. You also say you're using DVDFab and then you say you're using Blu-Ray Creator. Is there a Blu-Ray option with DVDFab? So, I don't know if you're creating DVD Video or Blu-Ray Video. Probably the easiest way to answer this. When you use ImgBurn's Build mode, are you adding a VIDEO_TS folder or a BDMV folder? If it's VIDEO_TS, that's a DVD. And if you burn a VIDEO_TS to a Blu-Ray disc, it will not play in a Blu-Ray player. And it definitely won't play in a DVD player. PC drives don't care what you feed them. The software that plays back the media does it based on the file formats, not the disc formats, as standalone player hardware does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 it is a sony dvd and blu-ray player not 2 things one player plays them all sorry could you help me understane this img burn is being called directly from dvdeFab after it converts the files ready to write to a Blu-ray disk. Hints in what options check in dvd FAb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 If DVDFab is calling ImgBurn directly, then who knows if it's doing it correctly or not. That introduces a whole new set of additional variables for things that could go wrong. At this point, I'd ask you to do something for me. Take this disc that won't play on your Sony Blu-Ray player but will play on your PC and put it in your PC drive. Open ImgBurn in Read Mode. There's a pane of disc information on the right side of the top window that says near the top Current Profile. Right click with the mouse on this pane of information, choose Select All, right click again and choose Copy. Paste that information into a reply here on this forum thread. Next, in File Explorer, navigate to the root directory of this inserted disc. Do you see a VIDEO_TS folder or a BDMV folder in the root directory of the disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 HL-DT-ST BD-RE_BT10N GN0B (USB) Current Profile: BD-ROM Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 10,363,424 Size: 21,224,292,352 bytes Time: 2303:00:74 (MM:SS:FF) MID: VERBAT-IMe-000 Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x Current Read Speed: 2.5x - 6x File System Information: Sectors: 10,363,424 Size: 21,224,292,352 bytes Time: 2303:00:74 (MM:SS:FF) TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 10363423) -> LeadOut (LBA: 10363424) Track Information: Session 1... -> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 12219392, LRA: 10363423) Disc Definition Structure: Certified: No Scanned: No Manufacturers Name: PIONEER Additional ID: BD-RW BDR-212V Serial Number: ADDL010097WL BD Disc Information: Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000 Disc Type: BD-R Disc Size: 120 mm Disc Class: 0 Disc Version: 1 Disc Time Stamp: 03/2010 Number of Layers: 1 Layer Type: Writable DVD Layer Present: No CD Layer Present: No Channel Bit Length: 74.50 nm (25 GB Per Layer) Push-Pull Polarity: Positive Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL BCA Present: Yes Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072 Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Good. Now, I need the 2nd part of what I asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 26, 2023 Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 BD-RE Drive (F:) 4_lnteresting People on Christop Name Date modified Type Size v Files Currently on the Disc “2 BDMV CERTIFICATE 6/15/2023 7:57 PM 6/15/2023 7:57 PM File folder File folder v Files Ready to Be Written to the Disc desktop.ini 6/15/2023 8:47 AM Configuration sett... 1 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Okay, so you're writing Blu-Ray Video content to a Blu-Ray disc. Unfortunately, at this point, I can't say what the problem might be as it probably involves your Blu-Ray creation software doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 26, 2023 Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 I got this just now from DVD FAB. Am trying it right now. DVDFab Support 2023-06-24 17:53:38 Please click the Menu button (the down triangle) in the upper right corner of DVDFab, click on Co mmon Settings>General>A/V Codec, tick the "Disable all GPU codecs for decoding and encoding" box and uncheck the option "Enable Lightning-Recoding when applicable (accelerate H.264 softw are decoding and encoding)" as well as the Lightning-Shrink option to copy/convert again and se e the result. ANOTHER ITEM: IS THERE ANY WAY TO STOP ImgBurn from going through the "reserving tracks" phase and let it automatically select a partition without manual intervention? I have no idea how to select a valid partition as all the stars are blank with no color coding. I have no idea what padding is or how to select it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Reserving tracks is different from what it sounds like you're talking about. What it sounds like you're talking about is setting the layer break, which you do NOT do on Blu-Ray as far as I am aware of. You have to let reserve tracks finish; otherwise, you don't have a readable disc. Padding is automatically selected, usually. However, that generally, again, as far as I know, only applies to DVD Video. Those settings DVDFab tech support told you to change would have no bearing on creating a disc that doesn't play in a Blu-Ray player. The Blu-Ray disc plays on your PC, so it's not authored incorrectly. What is going on is DVDFab does not appear to be passing the proper customizations for a playable Blu-Ray disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 26, 2023 Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 I wonder if it is because I used one of their templates and added customization. I only have 1 disk left to try and can not afford $65 for another batch. I will try using one of their menus without any modification and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 If you changed the DVDFab templates, then that could definitely be a problem, depending on what was changed. I wouldn't even let DVDFab call ImgBurn if it has the ability to write BDMV output folders. I would then add its output manually to a job in ImgBurn's build mode. ImgBurn is "smart" enough to detect you're trying to make a Blu-Ray Video disc and automatically make any necessary changes. That's what I do with the VIDEO_TS created by ConvertXToDVD when I make DVD Video discs. Another possibility to consider here is the BD discs you're burning. Your Blu-Ray player may not like them and simply can't read them. Your PC drive wouldn't have that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 26, 2023 Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 Nope they read other Blu-ray disks fine. commercial and created. I will try the menu change soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 So, you HAVE created Blu-Ray Video discs with these SAME BD discs you've been using that do play on your Blu-Ray player? If so, then it's not the discs and you can most likely pin the problem on DVDFab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykat23 Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share Posted June 27, 2023 seems to be true. I tried again with my last disc and did not use a modified menu except for replacing the title. DVD burned and played correctly. Things were complicated by the fact that PowerDVD player had an update in the meantime and the blu ray disk would load but the controller would not apperar Seems that DVDFab Menu modification was the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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