deadoralive45 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) Hi guys! Nine days ago I bought on Amazon an ASUS BW-16D1HT Bluray burner to record M-DISCS verbatim 100 GB, the drive came without a box, only with a plastic and two identical CDs, one had the paper in bad condition (They look like expendable generic software disks like Asus egreen). The first 100 GB disc recorded without problems and with the correct verification, the second 100 GB disc also, but the third has had no problems during recording, although in the verification there is a damaged file or a sector that can not be read. At first it looks like a video because it indicates that it is a .mp4 file but in reality it is like a hidden or secondary file of 25kb, it may be the thumbnail of the video, it is in a folder inside the folder where those videos are. The failure of the verification has been just at the 99% point of the verification. Should I be worried? Normally when recording I am always watching, I have the PC in performance mode and without going to sleep, but the screen turns itself off every so often, I do not know if that can affect. The other two recordings I was always aware and moved the mouse every time the image went, but this time I took the opportunity to go to sleep and wake up with the disc recorded, and the surprise was to find the failure in that sector in the verification process. ¿Did I leave the drive too long without refreshing the screen image? ¿Is the drive failing? ¿Is the disk defective? ¿Was the file size too small? ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Thursday, 06 February 2025, 03:50:16 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 19:43:14 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 19:43:14 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200) I 19:43:14 Total Physical Memory: 33,324,324 KiB - Available: 28,403,152 KiB I 19:43:14 Initialising SPTI... I 19:43:14 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:43:14 -> Drive 1 - Info: ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.11 (E:) (SATA) I 19:43:14 Found 1 BD-RE XL! I 19:45:26 Operation Started! I 19:45:26 Building Image Tree... I 19:45:39 Calculating Totals... I 19:45:39 Preparing Image... W 19:45:40 UDF File: '\PHOTOS\OLD HDD EXTERNAL 2000-2016\PHOTOS\New folder\3354710-retro-style-vector-seamless-pattern-fabric-wallpaper-wrapping-and-background-with-branches-of-palm-trees-ornament-summer-and-spring-theme-for-decoration-and-design.jpg' -> '3354710-retro-style-vector-seamless-pattern-fabric-wallpaper-wrapping-and-background-with-branches-of-palm-trees-ornament-s.jpg' (OS Path: D:\PHOTOS\OLD HDD EXTERNAL 2000-2016\PHOTOS\New folder\3354710-retro-style-vector-seamless-pattern-fabric-wallpaper-wrapping-and-background-with-branches-of-palm-trees-ornament-summer-and-spring-theme-for-decoration-and-design.jpg) W 19:45:40 UDF File System: 1 folder/file name has been modified due to your current settings. I 19:45:42 Contents: 23,209 Files, 1,067 Folders I 19:45:42 Content Type: Data I 19:45:42 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 19:45:42 File System(s): UDF (2.60) I 19:45:42 Volume Label: PHOTOS I 19:45:42 Size: 99,361,559,934 bytes I 19:45:42 Sectors: 48,528,665 I 19:45:42 Image Size: 99,494,002,688 bytes I 19:45:42 Image Sectors: 48,581,056 I 19:45:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:28 I 19:45:54 Operation Started! I 19:45:54 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:45:54 Source File Sectors: 48,581,056 (MODE1/2048) I 19:45:54 Source File Size: 99,494,002,688 bytes I 19:45:54 Source File Volume Identifier: PHOTOS I 19:45:54 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 5A459DAD02E4E3F9 I 19:45:54 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 19:45:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 19:45:54 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.60) I 19:45:54 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.11 (E:) (SATA) I 19:45:54 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000) I 19:45:54 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 19:45:54 Destination Media Sectors: 48,878,592 I 19:45:54 Write Mode: BD I 19:45:54 Write Type: DAO I 19:45:54 Write Speed: 2x I 19:45:54 Hardware Defect Management Active: No I 19:45:54 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes I 19:45:54 Link Size: Auto I 19:45:54 Lock Volume: Yes I 19:45:54 Test Mode: No I 19:45:54 OPC: No I 19:45:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:45:57 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,992 KB/s (2x) I 19:46:58 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 19:46:59 Writing LeadIn... I 19:47:08 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 48581055) I 19:47:08 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 48581055) I 22:45:41 Synchronising Cache... I 22:45:43 Closing Track... I 22:45:44 Finalising Disc... I 22:46:46 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:46:46 Graph Data File: C:\Users\desktop\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ASUS_BW-16D1HT_3.11_WEDNESDAY-FEBRUARY-5-2025_7-45_PM_VERBAT-IMk-000_2x.ibg I 22:46:46 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:46:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 03:00:52 I 22:46:46 Average Write Rate: 9,070 KiB/s (2.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 9,202 KiB/s (2.1x) I 22:46:46 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:46:54 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:47:22 Device Ready! I 22:47:27 Operation Started! I 22:47:27 Source Device: [0:0:0] ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.11 (E:) (SATA) I 22:47:27 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000) I 22:47:27 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2x, 5x, 6x I 22:47:27 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 22:47:27 Source Media Sectors: 48,581,056 I 22:47:27 Source Media Size: 99,494,002,688 bytes I 22:47:27 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 22:47:27 Image File Sectors: 48,581,056 (MODE1/2048) I 22:47:27 Image File Size: 99,494,002,688 bytes I 22:47:27 Image File Volume Identifier: PHOTOS I 22:47:27 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 5A459DAD02E4E3F9 I 22:47:27 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 22:47:27 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 22:47:27 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.60) I 22:47:27 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 22:47:28 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 6x, 6x - 2x I 22:47:28 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 48581055) I 22:47:28 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 48581055) W 00:14:00 Failed to Read Sectors 48553312 - 48553343 - Reason: Timeout on Logical Unit W 00:14:08 Failed to Read Sector 48553312 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 00:14:08 Sector 48553312 maps to File: \VIDEOS\phonevideos\201003\201003A0\31032010123.mp4 W 03:47:57 Retrying (1)... W 03:48:03 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 03:48:05 Retrying (2)... W 03:48:13 Retry Failed - Reason: Timeout on Logical Unit W 03:49:12 Retrying (3)... I 03:49:16 Verifying Sectors... I 03:49:38 Exporting Graph Data... I 03:49:38 Graph Data File: C:\Users\desktop\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ASUS_BW-16D1HT_3.11_WEDNESDAY-FEBRUARY-5-2025_7-45_PM_VERBAT-IMk-000_2x.ibg I 03:49:38 Export Successfully Completed! I 03:49:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 05:02:08 I 03:49:38 Average Verify Rate: 5,360 KiB/s (1.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 26,760 KiB/s (6.1x) I 03:50:16 Close Request Acknowledged I 03:50:16 Closing Down... I 03:50:16 Shutting down SPTI... I 03:50:16 ImgBurn closed! I installed VSO inspector and it gives errors in some sectors at the end of the disk, although the software says there are no faults and 100% is fine. 2025-02-06 05:33:00 Info Advanced settings changed by user 2025-02-06 05:32:53 Info Advanced settings changed by user 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Warning File test cancelled by user 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Info Average read speed: 1.51x 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Info Maximum read speed: 1.74x 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Info Minimum read speed: 0.66x 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Info Good: 258, Problem: 0, Error: 0 2025-02-06 05:27:14 Info 258 files scanned 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info File Test started 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info Surface scan complete 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info Average read speed: 3.16x 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info Maximum read speed: 5.06x 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info Minimum read speed: 0.13x 2025-02-06 05:22:23 Info Good: 100.00%, Problem: 0.00%, Error: 0.00% 2025-02-06 05:22:13 Warning Reading of sector 48568576 to 48568592 required 2 tries 2025-02-06 05:22:02 Warning Reading of sector 48559552 to 48559568 required 3 tries 2025-02-06 05:21:52 Error Reading of sector 48553328 to 48553344 failed: Code 03 11 05 [Read error, L-EC Uncorrectable error] 2025-02-06 05:21:22 Error Reading of sector 48553312 to 48553328 failed: Code 03 11 05 [Read error, L-EC Uncorrectable error] 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Scanning BD from sector 0 to 48581055 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Total sector count: 48581055 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Surface Scan started 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Layers: 0 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Capacity: 92.7 GB (48581056 Sectors) 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Media ID: VERBAT-IMk-00 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Volume Label: 2025-02-06 03:54:37 Info Media Type: BD 2025-02-06 03:54:24 ---- ******************** Log session start 06-Feb 03:54:24.816 PID 15236******************** In fact I have passed VSO between the sector 47000000 and the last one and I have had errors and also the program has thrown me these screens and when I accepted the second warning it has closed automatically. I tried again and same error The errors seem to be at the end of the disk between sector 48514448 and sector and the final sector 48581055 Does anyone know how I can check which files that range of sectors correspond to? Otherwise it looks like a hardware error or some problem with the inputs and outputs ¿Should I reinstall imgburn? Any help? Edited February 6 by deadoralive45
dbminter Posted February 6 Posted February 6 You should never trust discs that even recover from unreadable sectors. It is indicative of some future failure down the road. And definitely any Verify failures should cause you to not trust the final disc. Just a few weeks ago, I came across a BD-R I burned about 8 years ago that had a recovered read error on Verify. That disc was partially unreadable then. I should have burned the disc again, but it recovered from the read error and a manual Verify on the disc in a new, replacement drive showed no errors. Don't bother reinstalling ImgBurn. These kinds of errors are indicative of hardware or media errors. Reinstalling ImgBurn will rarely help in those cases. The ImgBurn Log tells you what file that sector mapped to: \VIDEOS\phonevideos\201003\201003A0\31032010123.mp4
deadoralive45 Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 4 hours ago, dbminter said: You should never trust discs that even recover from unreadable sectors. It is indicative of some future failure down the road. And definitely any Verify failures should cause you to not trust the final disc. Just a few weeks ago, I came across a BD-R I burned about 8 years ago that had a recovered read error on Verify. That disc was partially unreadable then. I should have burned the disc again, but it recovered from the read error and a manual Verify on the disc in a new, replacement drive showed no errors. Don't bother reinstalling ImgBurn. These kinds of errors are indicative of hardware or media errors. Reinstalling ImgBurn will rarely help in those cases. The ImgBurn Log tells you what file that sector mapped to: \VIDEOS\phonevideos\201003\201003A0\31032010123.mp4 So is the disc defective or is the recorder defective? I will make another copy, this one I will keep just in case, at the end it is that video (31032010123.mp4) that is corrupted, it is only a 25 MB video, it pisses me off but the rest of the content seems intact. I have passed VSO inspector and it only gives me errors at the end of everything, just like the imgburn verification, I have checked the hashes and everything is correct, there are three folders in the root of the disk and one is the one with the failures, the other two give correct hashes. I have also copied all the files to a HDD and all are copied, except the one with the damaged sector that tells me that the file can not be copied, although I can preview it with a video player, but the video is cut at the end of this for being corrupted and if I try to copy the file the disk goes crazy.
dbminter Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Well, it's hard to say which is at fault. If I were to make just a cursory guess, the first 2 XL discs you burned were not nearly 100% full. The one that failed apparently was. So, a 2nd burn would rule out if it was the media or the drive that's bad. Or it might be a combination of both. The drive might not like that media. I would not necessarily blame a defective drive immediately. It's most likely a combination of the media not being liked by the drive. Attempting to burn that same 2nd disc to another XL BD would be more indicative. If that fails, too, it would be more likely the media, but not defective media. Just bad media. For instance, I have proven that the for a decade Verbatim branded blue and white BD-R which were rock solid with no failures are now just junk within the last 6 months. The most common areas for failure are at the layer changes and the inner and outer edges of a disc. For XL media, burning the entire disc involves both a layer change and the outer edge.
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