ultramegaburningenthiseist Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago just today my (last) pioneer 2213 got to me and i have been having fun with it after dealing with shitty LG's the whole last year. anyways i tried burning my VERBAT-IMe disks at 16x, it worked but got this weird error that i skipped after retrying a few times. burned and verified succesfully. heres the log: Quote ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Saturday, 10 May 2025, 18:37:23 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 18:15:51 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 18:15:51 Microsoft Windows 8 Unknown x64 Edition (0x000000BF) (6.2, Build 9200) I 18:15:51 Total Physical Memory: 16,738,756 KiB - Available: 3,151,060 KiB I 18:15:51 Initialising SPTI... I 18:15:51 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:15:51 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH70N A102 (E:) (SATA) I 18:15:52 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-213M 1.05-ID56 (H:) (SATA) I 18:15:52 -> Drive 3 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS58 1.V5 (F:) (SATA) I 18:15:52 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 2 BD-RE XLs! I 18:16:46 Operation Started! I 18:16:46 Building Image Tree... I 18:16:47 Calculating Totals... I 18:16:47 Preparing Image... I 18:16:47 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 18:16:47 Content Type: Data I 18:16:47 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 18:16:47 File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 18:16:47 Volume Label: Blue Archive disk 3 I 18:16:47 Size: 24,097,763,328 bytes I 18:16:47 Sectors: 11,766,486 I 18:16:47 Image Size: 24,098,635,776 bytes I 18:16:47 Image Sectors: 11,766,912 I 18:16:50 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03 I 18:16:50 Operation Started! I 18:16:50 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:16:50 Source File Sectors: 11,766,912 (MODE1/2048) I 18:16:50 Source File Size: 24,098,635,776 bytes I 18:16:50 Source File Volume Identifier: Blue Archive disk 3 I 18:16:50 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 5AAA921700B38C36 I 18:16:50 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 18:16:50 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 18:16:50 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 18:16:50 Destination Device: [2:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-213M 1.05 (H:) (SATA) I 18:16:50 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000) I 18:16:50 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x, 16x I 18:16:50 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392 I 18:16:50 Write Mode: BD I 18:16:50 Write Type: DAO I 18:16:50 Write Speed: 16x I 18:16:50 Hardware Defect Management Active: No I 18:16:50 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes I 18:16:50 Link Size: Auto I 18:16:50 Lock Volume: Yes I 18:16:50 Test Mode: No I 18:16:50 OPC: No I 18:16:50 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:16:50 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 71,920 KB/s (16x) I 18:16:50 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 18:16:52 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 18:16:53 Writing LeadIn... I 18:17:14 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11766911) I 18:17:14 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11766911) I 18:25:20 Synchronising Cache... I 18:25:21 Closing Track... I 18:25:22 Finalising Disc... W 18:25:39 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (74%, 0/3) - Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium W 18:25:39 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium W 18:25:39 Retrying (1 of 3)... W 18:25:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Medium Format Corrupted W 18:25:39 Retrying (2 of 3)... W 18:25:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Medium Format Corrupted W 18:25:39 Retrying (3 of 3)... W 18:25:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Medium Format Corrupted W 18:25:47 Retrying (4)... W 18:25:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Medium Format Corrupted I 18:25:51 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:25:51 Graph Data File: C:\Users\dennis\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-213M_1.05_SATURDAY-MAY-10-2025_6-16_PM_VERBAT-IMe-000_16x.ibg I 18:25:51 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:25:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:01 I 18:25:51 Average Write Rate: 48,423 KiB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 69,152 KiB/s (15.8x) I 18:25:51 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 18:26:10 Device Ready! I 18:26:11 Operation Started! I 18:26:11 Source Device: [2:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-213M 1.05 (H:) (SATA) I 18:26:11 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000) I 18:26:11 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 12x I 18:26:11 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x I 18:26:11 Source Media Sectors: 0 I 18:26:11 Source Media Size: 0 bytes I 18:26:11 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:26:11 Image File Sectors: 11,766,912 (MODE1/2048) I 18:26:11 Image File Size: 24,098,635,776 bytes I 18:26:11 Image File Volume Identifier: Blue Archive disk 3 I 18:26:11 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 5AAA921700B38C36 I 18:26:11 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 18:26:11 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 18:26:11 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 18:26:11 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:26:12 Read Speed - Effective: 5x - 12x I 18:26:12 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11766911) I 18:26:13 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11766911) I 18:36:56 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:36:56 Graph Data File: C:\Users\dennis\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-213M_1.05_SATURDAY-MAY-10-2025_6-16_PM_VERBAT-IMe-000_16x.ibg I 18:36:56 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:36:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:43 I 18:36:56 Average Verify Rate: 36,657 KiB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 51,385 KiB/s (11.7x) I 18:37:23 Close Request Acknowledged I 18:37:23 Closing Down... I 18:37:23 Shutting down SPTI... I 18:37:23 ImgBurn closed! ;
dbminter Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago You're probably using the blue and white branded Verbatim BD-R. Up until around the middle of last year, those were impeccable discs; not anymore. They are utter junk now. What you need are the Verbatim DataLife Plus BD-R. Unfortunately, you pay a premium on those since they only come in inkjet printable variety, and you probably won't print any labels to them. However, they are the only quality BD-R Verbatim makes anymore.
ultramegaburningenthiseist Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, dbminter said: You're probably using the blue and white branded Verbatim BD-R. Up until around the middle of last year, those were impeccable discs; not anymore. They are utter junk now. What you need are the Verbatim DataLife Plus BD-R. Unfortunately, you pay a premium on those since they only come in inkjet printable variety, and you probably won't print any labels to them. However, they are the only quality BD-R Verbatim makes anymore. not really true. i burned many blank branded disks and they worked fine before in multiple optical drives. and i bought my disks at may 26th last year, and they where produced earlier so i doupt. i also have printable ones with me but they are the same. the printables cost a bit more because of the paper it uses. also the pioneer bruned the blu ray disk before at 2x completly fine and my BIS/LDC scans where very good.
dbminter Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Well, if you're using the DataLife Plus ones and Verbatim doesn't make non-DataLife Plus inkjet printable BD-R, then it must be the drive. However, you said you bought these May of last year? That was back when they were quality blue and white branded surface. I tried the 2213 briefly. It had no problems with the blue and white branded discs I threw at it, but Pioneer is known to bork their firmware. So, it's possible they released a firmware update since then that broke Verbatim BD-R. I returned my 2213 for other issues. 8x DVD+R DL that only write at 2.4x. 8x DVD+RW that only write at 6x. And Pioneer seems to have ceased development on their firmware, so if it is an issue requiring a firmware update, no apparent fix is probably forthcoming. Pioneer has made terrible drives for over a decade now. For over a decade, they had issues where 8x DVD+RW were not written correctly. This WAS initially fixed by the 2213, but it had other issues. And still does, like reborking the 8x DVD+RW firmware so it only writes at 6x.
ultramegaburningenthiseist Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, dbminter said: Well, if you're using the DataLife Plus ones and Verbatim doesn't make non-DataLife Plus inkjet printable BD-R, then it must be the drive. However, you said you bought these May of last year? That was back when they were quality blue and white branded surface. I tried the 2213 briefly. It had no problems with the blue and white branded discs I threw at it, but Pioneer is known to bork their firmware. So, it's possible they released a firmware update since then that broke Verbatim BD-R. I returned my 2213 for other issues. 8x DVD+R DL that only write at 2.4x. 8x DVD+RW that only write at 6x. And Pioneer seems to have ceased development on their firmware, so if it is an issue requiring a firmware update, no apparent fix is probably forthcoming. Pioneer has made terrible drives for over a decade now. For over a decade, they had issues where 8x DVD+RW were not written correctly. This WAS initially fixed by the 2213, but it had other issues. And still does, like reborking the 8x DVD+RW firmware so it only writes at 6x. i think its because burning at 16x is just not stable. at 2x and 4x is fine and burned perfectly. i have the latest firmware btw is that matters (1.05 for the 2213). either way pioneer stopped making their drives so fixing it is just hoping that is werks. i do want to test the pioneer with some 24x cd-rws. what drive are you using right nwo to burn/scan?
dbminter Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I believe 1.05 was what I last tested with. I don't know if I burned at 16x or not. I used the maximum burning speeds. I know the LG and ASUS even though they say they burn at 16x BD-R only actually burn at 12x max to BD-R. Oh, I was not aware Pioneer had stopped making drives. That explains why the no new firmware updates in like 2 years. I use the ASUS BW-16D1HT half height internal BD burner in a VanTech USB enclosure. Unfortunately, LG's WH16NS40 is the only other good option and it has issues of its own. The NS60 used to be better than the NS40 but 1.) LG no longer makes it and 2.) the NS40 has issues of its own.
ultramegaburningenthiseist Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, dbminter said: in my experience sometimes the drive wants to burn at 16x and sometimes it does not and only gives me 12x. its very weird. also for some reason my Verbs are giving me only 24,220,000 bytes instead of the 25gb (25,000,000 bytes)
ultramegaburningenthiseist Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago should i just go and claim my warranty and get free blu rays? Quote I guess you meant 24,220,000,000? yea lol
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