Is there a good burner for double layer BD-Rs (50 GB)?

[dbminter]

I have to question the longevity of these Ritek BD-R DL's, though.  Back in 2012, I was given two RITEK DID BD-R's by someone who made a fan made collection of an old TV series that wasn't available on Blu-Ray.  This year, I checked on both BD-R discs and both were partially unreadable in an NS60 and my ASUS.

 

Also, those Ritek BD-R caused playback issues in the Playstation 3.  One disc would skip over the entirety of the copyright logo Title Set at the beginning and the 2nd disc would cause skips during playback of other Title Sets.

[Expedite]

Sorry but you are not following logic. A good burn requires a good burner with a good strategy for the discs. I told you already that LG drives are not good burners for 50GB discs. Now you blame it on the discs. As said in general disc quality has gone south in the past especially concerning 50 Gb discs and larger.

1) Burn 50 GB discs with a Pioneer drive

2) Check the burn with VPTools or qxptools.

3) Apply spare areas to improve your burns

4) Stop making assumptions without real results from a quality check with VPTools or qxptools.

5) Better stop burning at all and save on hard drives

 

 

[dbminter]

Pioneer no longer makes drives anymore.  Plus, for almost 15 years, Pioneer borked their firmware so they don't properly write to 8x DVD+RW.  While the last firmware they released for their last drive did not to that for 8x DVD+RW, they borked 8x DVD+R DL so they only write at 2.4x max.

[Expedite]

None of my Pioneers have this issue. You need to move on. I have two 212 drives flashed to UHD and a 209  flashed to S11 UHD. You are stuck with decade old issues and assumptions that your experiences translate to other Pioneer drives. They are the best and hard and expensive to get.

[Expedite]

Well and you didn't respond to any of my points listed. It's like talking to a wall.

[dbminter]

Fine, you want replies.  Get ready for them.

 

I've no idea how old you are, but I have probably been following Mill's methods of observation longer than you've been alive.  I set my rationale around the scientific method and have been doing such probably since 1990.  So, to say I don't follow logic, you have no idea.

 

I think, though I'm not sure, the last Pioneer was the 213.  I tested all 213 firmware releases.  213 was the first Pioneer in almost 15 years to properly write to 8x DVD+RW.  The previous firmware update did not bork 8x DVD+R DL, but the last released one did.

 

PIPO, etc. scans are highly overrated.  I don't bother with them.  I've been burning at max speeds on recordable media since 2000 going all the way to CD-R's.  Last year, I still had Optodisc DVD-R burned nearly 20 years ago that were still readable.  The only time I've ever had to consider switching to a slower speed was with BD-R DL.

[Expedite]

Yes, you are not following logic. LDC / BIS scans show what the drive needs to correct with the data it reads. The raw data includes error correction information and that is exactly what VPTools and qxptools show. How much the drive needs to correct the information it reads from the disc. So everything else is just guessing.

Now regarding age I'm pretty sure my experience is very similar. Starting with CloneCD, DVD2One, IFOEdit, DVDDecrypter. You name it. 

 

[Expedite]

Do you remember VGACopy to increase storage capacities on floppys? If no, don't age-challenge me anymore.

[dbminter]

I am old enough to remember magneto-optical discs and things called Bernoulis, so it seems we're roughly the same age.

 

And I'm really dating myself here.  I am old enough to have saved BASIC programs on audio cassettes.

[Expedite]

Same here.

[Expedite]

If I'm bored somewhen in the next days I will perform:

 

1) Ritek 50 GB slow 4 x on WH 16NS60

2) Same on Pioneer 212

3) 1 with spare

4) 2 with spare

Just to show you. Can I ask for a donation to waste 4 discs? Just kidding. I want to convince you.