BD doesn't play on standalone player. Works on PC. Created with DVDFAB, burned with IMGBURN

[Leopold]

Hi everyone, 

I'm running into issues with Blu-rays that I've burned with ImgBurn and created with DVDFab.

The issue is that the disc is not recognized on the standalone Sony player, which is plugged into the TV. It does work fine on my PC, though. 

Here are the steps that led me here:

1. Created the movie and mastered a ProRes 422 .mov file

2. Inserted this file into DVDFab's "UHD Creator" and added my subtitles. Then, I rendered and created an ISO file, which I saved on my PC. These are the settings I used:

3. Opened ImgBurn in Burn mode and set Write Speed to 3x, as someone said this might cause the problem. Checked the verify button.

4. After burn and verify, the disc plays wonderfully on my PC, but not on the standalone. When inserting it there, it goes blank for a second and then returns to the player's menu.

 

This is what ImgBurn says about the disc on the right hand side:

 

PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-UD03 1.14 (USB)
Current Profile: BD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 6,722,144
Size: 13,766,950,912 bytes
Time: 1493:50:44 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: CMCMAG-BA5-000
Supported Read Speeds: 6x
Current Read Speed: 2.5x - 6x

File System Information:
Sectors: 6,722,144
Size: 13,766,950,912 bytes
Time: 1493:50:44 (MM:SS:FF)

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 6722143)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 6722144)

Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 6722144, LRA: 6722143)

Disc Definition Structure:
Certified: No
Scanned: No
Manufacturers Name: PIONEER
Additional ID: BD-RW BDR-UD03
Serial Number: ALDL451685WL

BD Disc Information:
Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA5-000
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120 mm
Disc Class: 0
Disc Version: 1
Number of Layers: 1
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 74.50 nm (25 GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072
Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494

 

Also, I'm using 25gb discs with a 4x write speed. And I'm taking a 2160p video file and crating a 2160p Blu Ray out of it.

 

Does anybody have any ideas what the issue could be? Is it likely to be a DVDFab creating problem or a ImgBurn burning Problem?

 

Or is it neither and the non-4k-player just can't play a 2160p file?

 

My next step will be to try creating a folder with DVDFab instead of an ISO file. And then I will try creating a 1080p file instead and testing it with my player.

 

Cheers,

Leopold

 

 

[dbminter]

I would blame this:

Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA5-000

 

Since the disc plays on your PC drive but not on your standalone player, the BD Movie disc appears to be "fine."  So, it's most likely a compatibility issue with those CMC MAG discs and your standalone Blu-Ray player.  In simplest terms, your Blu-Ray standalone hardware doesn't "like" those discs.  PC drives are more "forgiving" than standalone players.

 

I've seen similar behavior on the Playstation 3.  The PS3 doesn't like Memorex's RITEK BD-R's and will often times skip entire Title Sets on playback or playback some Title Sets with skips in audio and video because the laser doesn't like those discs.

 

CMC MAG is shorthand for CMC Magnetics, which makes the worst optical discs out there.  I would try another kind of BD-R that isn't CMC.  The only brand of reliable BD-R I know of now are Verbatim DataLife Plus inkjet printable BD-R.  They are more expensive because of their higher quality and printable surface, which you'll probably never use (I don't.) but the Verbatim branded blue and white BD-R which were high quality for the decade I used them are now no longer reliable.

[Leopold]

Thanks for the information!

 

I'll try to get these Datalife Plus discs in the future. I  am having a hard time finding them on the Internet, however. I assume choosing Datalife Plus over Datalife makes a difference? And can it be that these are only available as 50gb discs instead of 25gb?   

 

In the meantime, I tried creating a 1080p BluRay file as a folder in DVDFab and then using ImgBurn to burn, and this did play on the standalone! It did skip the Menu and went straight to the film, however... I suppose this is because of the CMC Discs?

[dbminter]

In the US, you can find the DataLife Plus BD-R on Amazon.com.  I don't think I've never heard of just DataLife without the Plus.  Verbatim has 2 flavors of its CD and DVD: Life Series and DataLife Plus.  The Life Series is the CMC junk.  DataLife Plus is the quality material.  Verbatim does make 50 GB DataLife Plus BD-R DL with inkjet printable surfaces, too.

 

That skipping the menu and going straight to film could be however DVDFab processed the disc.  I believe it has the option of just extracting the movie and not the menus.  If you play this new BD Video that just goes straight to the movie, is the BDMV folder still on your hard drive somewhere?  If so, try playing that from the hard drive on your PC and see if it loads a menu.  If it doesn't, then DVDFab probably just made a BD Video with only the movie on it.

[Leopold]

I see. When I open the file on the PC, it doesn't load the menu.

On the other hand, when I pop the disc into the disc drive in the PC anew, it opens VLC with an error message, stating Java isn't installed. When I click this away, it starts with the movie.

[dbminter]

Java is necessary to play BD Video menus.  That could be why you're not getting a menu on the PC.  Doesn't explain the standalone BD player, though.

 

You may want to install the Java runtime package on your PC and see if the menu appears after that in VLC.

[blask]

CMCMAG-BA5-000 disks are junk, but I doubt that's the reason for the standalone player reading problem. I've burned dozens of them with data and with BD-video contents with the same type of Pioneer device and generally they work fine on 4 different standalone players - Sony, Samsung, Philips and Panasonic.

(In case you wonder the reason why I use them is that in Eastern Europe, or at least in my part of EU, there is no real choice, even Verbatim branded BD25 discs are actually CMC, there are no DataLifePlus single layer BD-Rs, and ordering them from another country or from another continent will make their price way too high for me.)

I would blame DVDfab for the problem with reading disc on standalone player.