I/O Error with FX interactive games when trying to dump them.

[usertest1234]

Hello there guys, i recently have been buying some games from fx-interactive, and when trying to dump some games, like submarine titans, it gives me a I/O Error, i can't even copy the content from the cd to a folder.

I already used alcohol 95 and 52%, none of them work too, but works with other cd's.

Any idea?

Below, you can see my screenshots showing the problem i got and the log.

 

Thanks.

ImgBurn.log

 

 

[dbminter]

When you say "games," are these PC games or console games?  Some drives have difficulty reading console game CD's such as Playstation.  If it's a PC game and since other CD's read fine, the CD's may be copy protected.  Particularly since you said also copying and pasting the contents doesn't work.

 

Off of the top of my head, I can't think of anything that handles copy protected CD's.

[usertest1234]

34 minutes ago, dbminter said:

When you say "games," are these PC games or console games?  Some drives have difficulty reading console game CD's such as Playstation.  If it's a PC game and since other CD's read fine, the CD's may be copy protected.  Particularly since you said also copying and pasting the contents doesn't work.

 

Off of the top of my head, I can't think of anything that handles copy protected CD's.

Hello, they are pc-games from a distributing company named fx-interactive,  the thing is that i already used alcohol software to copy DRM protected games, but for some reason games like submarine titans are not able to be copied throught alcohol software to create a image with the protection, or imgburn creating a iso.

[dbminter]

I wasn't sure whether Alcohol could process protected CD's.

 

Barring trying another CD drive, I can't think of what else you can do.  Since regular CD's are fine but none of these FX discs copy, it's something unique to those FX discs.  It could be some unique property in your CD drive where it doesn't like those particular kinds of discs.  So, it's possible a different CD drive might work to read them.  See if you can get your hands on a USB CD drive, particularly a different make and manufacturer than your current one.

 

I would still lean towards some sort of copy protection.  Since other CD's read fine but all FX discs don't and you can't copy and paste any contents from these FX discs, it seems some trait unique to the FX discs.  And it seems highly unlikely ALL FX discs you'd be testing have gone bad and become unreadable at the same time.

[usertest1234]

3 minutes ago, dbminter said:

I wasn't sure whether Alcohol could process protected CD's.

 

Barring trying another CD drive, I can't think of what else you can do.  Since regular CD's are fine but none of these FX discs copy, it's something unique to those FX discs.  It could be some unique property in your CD drive where it doesn't like those particular kinds of discs.  So, it's possible a different CD drive might work to read them.  See if you can get your hands on a USB CD drive, particularly a different make and manufacturer than your current one.

 

I would still lean towards some sort of copy protection.  Since other CD's read fine but all FX discs don't and you can't copy and paste any contents from these FX discs, it seems some trait unique to the FX discs.  And it seems highly unlikely ALL FX discs you'd be testing have gone bad and become unreadable at the same time.

Hi there, the problem is that for example, i can make an image with starcraft 1 disc, from the same company, however i can't do it with submarine titans, and also, with alcohol you don't create an iso, you create another format that copy the DRM, but for some reason i can't even do it with alcohol.. i hoped that with my log and the screenshot someone could help me.

[dbminter]

Hm, well, Starcraft may have been made before a particular DRM was applied to Submarine Titans.  But, since you can copy some FX discs but not this one (Are there others that don't copy?) then the problem lies with the Titans disc.  Either it is protected, or, what I am leaning towards now, the disc has gone bad and cannot be read fully.  Particularly if Titans is the only FX disc you're encountering this one.  Since you can't image or copy contents from the Titans disc, it seems the disc is partially unreadable.

[usertest1234]

13 minutes ago, dbminter said:

Hm, well, Starcraft may have been made before a particular DRM was applied to Submarine Titans.  But, since you can copy some FX discs but not this one (Are there others that don't copy?) then the problem lies with the Titans disc.  Either it is protected, or, what I am leaning towards now, the disc has gone bad and cannot be read fully.  Particularly if Titans is the only FX disc you're encountering this one.  Since you can't image or copy contents from the Titans disc, it seems the disc is partially unreadable.

This is strange, because the disc can be installed without any problem, and i don't know if the starcraft is not protected before submarine titans because the disc i have it includes the remastered version of starcraft.

There are other discs that i can't copy, for example the lord of the rings war of the rings, its not from fx distributor, another one is praetorians, not from fx-interactive too.. I think the disc is fine, but the problem is that i can't copy at all the content, and i want to do it to preserve the games in case the CD gets damaged or something.

 

Here are some logs before going with the error..

Edited yesterday at 01:22 PM by usertest1234

[dbminter]

Since this issue is only affecting CD's and only some CD's, the most logical answers are 1.) some but not all discs have become unreadable, which is probably the least likely answer 2.) some of these discs are copy protected but others aren't 3.) your CD drive doesn't like some of these discs but does others.

 

Now, since you say one of these discs that can't be copied but CAN be installed, this means the disc is apparently readable in its normal circumstance.  Which means it's copy protected.  If Alcohol can't read it, then it must be a copy protection it is not aware of.

[usertest1234]

18 minutes ago, dbminter said:

Since this issue is only affecting CD's and only some CD's, the most logical answers are 1.) some but not all discs have become unreadable, which is probably the least likely answer 2.) some of these discs are copy protected but others aren't 3.) your CD drive doesn't like some of these discs but does others.

 

Now, since you say one of these discs that can't be copied but CAN be installed, this means the disc is apparently readable in its normal circumstance.  Which means it's copy protected.  If Alcohol can't read it, then it must be a copy protection it is not aware of.

Probably its copy protected, i tried to dump the panzer phase one disc, from fx-interactive too, and i have the same error that i got with submarine titans

However, before trying to dump the disk, the game was installed successfuly.

 

EDIT: Is there any way to know what kind of DRM has those cd?

Edited yesterday at 02:43 PM by usertest1234

[dbminter]

I would, most likely, put the blame on a DRM that Alcohol does not know about.

 

As far as I know, there's nothing that can analyze and tell you what sort of DRM is on CD's.  You could try doing an Internet search for that game title and DRM and see if it returns anything.

[blask]

pcgamingwiki.com is a good site to check what kind of DRM certain PC game has.

It says that the retail version of The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring has SecuROM DRM and Codename: Panzers - Phase One has Starforce DRM, so that explains the problem.

 

 

 

[dbminter]

Doesn't explain why Alcohol couldn't read them.  Unless Alcohol cannot process those 2 kinds of DRM.  But, I've never used Alcohol to read a protected CD, so I couldn't say anything beyond that.