Some weird problem

[DarK HawK]

Hello there,

 

I've never encountered this problem before.

 

I'd like to mention that in both the times this problem happened, I was watching a video file fullscreen, I don't know, it might be related, coz between the two times it happened, i successfully burned one dvd without error and without a full screen video plays.

 

Also this drive have been working fine with my old pc.

 

Here is the log:

I 16:49:47 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!

I 16:49:47 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6000)

I 16:49:47 Total Physical Memory: 3,405,504 KB - Available: 2,017,124 KB

I 16:49:47 Initialising SPTI...

I 16:49:47 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 16:49:47 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 16:49:48 Project Loaded Successfully!

I 16:49:59 Operation Started!

I 16:49:59 Building Image Tree...

I 16:50:00 Checking Directory Depth...

I 16:50:00 Calculating Totals...

I 16:50:00 Preparing Image...

I 16:50:00 Checking Path Length...

I 16:50:00 Image Size: 4,408,246,272 bytes

I 16:50:00 Image Sectors: 2,152,464

I 16:50:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:10

I 16:50:10 Operation Started!

I 16:50:10 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 16:50:10 Source File Sectors: 2,152,464 (MODE1/2048)

I 16:50:10 Source File Size: 4,408,246,272 bytes

I 16:50:10 Source File Volume Identifier: 24 012

I 16:50:10 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 16:50:10 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 16:50:10 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 16:50:10 Destination Device: [4:1:0] LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N (H:) (SCSI)

I 16:50:10 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG03) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x, 20x)

I 16:50:10 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 16:50:10 Write Mode: DVD

I 16:50:10 Write Type: DAO

I 16:50:10 Write Speed: 16x

I 16:50:10 Link Size: Auto

I 16:50:10 Test Mode: No

I 16:50:10 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 16:50:10 Filling Buffer... (128 MB)

I 16:50:12 Writing LeadIn...

I 16:51:04 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2152463)

W 16:53:31 Failed to Write Sectors 903680 - 903711 - Logical Unit Communication CRC Error (ULTRA-DMA/32)

W 16:53:31 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 16:53:41 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

 

From retry 2 - 200

 

W 16:55:02 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 16:55:03 Failed to Write Sectors 903680 - 903711 - Logical Unit Communication CRC Error (ULTRA-DMA/32)

I 16:55:03 Synchronising Cache...

E 16:55:04 Failed to Write Image!

E 16:55:06 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:53

I 16:55:06 Average Write Rate: 7,593 KB/s (5.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 15,737 KB/s (11.4x)

[chewy]

LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N (H:) (SCSI)

 

that's the ide/pata model right?

[DarK HawK]

Thanks for the fast response chewy.

 

Yes.

 

I think the (SCSI) is the IDE controller on the motherboard.

Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5

 

http://www.gigabyte.eu/Products/Motherboar...?ProductID=2672

[chewy]

gigabyte sata 2 has always been jmicron before, probably same crap all over again

 

what's the driver version and date from device manager?

 

have you checked the burner in another computer with standard southbridge chipset support?

[dontasciime]

Also after checking drivers change the IDE to an 80 wire one or replace the existing 80 wire one with a new one

[DarK HawK]

I have 3 storage controllers, I don't know which one is assigned to the writers.

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, I've been using this burner for a long time on my old PC with a standard southbridge, and it never showed this problem.

 

Also, the ide cable is the same old one, I don't think there is a problem with it.

[chewy]

Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip)

 

In bios is this set for ide?

 

the purple sata connectors come off this same jmicron chipset? also runs the pata that your burner is connected to

[DarK HawK]

Yes, there are 2 purple SATA connectors on the motherboard that are controlled by the jmicron chipset but I've assigned them to the external sata connectors.

 

I'll check the SATA/IDE now.

[DarK HawK]

Onboard SATA/IDE Device (Enabled)

 

Onboard SATA/IDE Device ctrl mode (IDE)

[chewy]

JMB36X RAID Driver Release Note

 

R1.17.31WHQL (R1.17.31.00 - 12/10/07')

 

seems they are releasing a new driver every month trying to fix issues

 

http://www.jmicron.com/Driver.htm

[lmao2k]

There is meant to be an issue with the jmicron contoller and optical drives. I'll muck about on thurs and see if I get the same issue (Got that exact board sitting on the floor now). I think I have the burner somewhere too.

 

Keep us posted on if the new driver fixes that issue. Just out of interest does the error happen if you have raid enabled for control mode?

[cornholio7]

i have 2 drives on my jmicron pci-e card no problems here

 

[DarK HawK]

I did three things at the same time, one of them fixed the problem.

 

I installed the new driver (There is a SATA mode and an IDE mode in the driver installation, and both seem to work fine).

I changed the IDE cable.

I changed the firmware from a patched fm to the stock firmware.

 

One of those things did the trick, which one?, I can't say.

I've burned like 10 dvds afterwards to make sure it's done.

 

And I don't have RAID enabled.

Edited December 30, 2007 by DarK HawK

[DarK HawK]

Another thing.

 

I've bought this card controller but didn't install it yet.

 

Can you give me any feedback about the card and it's compatibility with optical devices.

 

http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail...T2IDE2&c=US

 

 

Technical Specifications

 

Warranty Lifetime warranty

Bus Type PCI Express

Connector Types 2 - SATA Data 7 pin Female

Connector Types 1 - IDE 40 pin Male

Carton Quantity 50

Shipping (Package) Weight 0.35 lb [0.16 kg]

Chipset JMicron JMB366

Maximum Data Transfer Rate 300 Mbps (SATA2/SATA300) 133 Mbps (IDE)

Edited December 30, 2007 by DarK HawK

[dontasciime]

Try it and then give feedback about the card and it's compatibility with optical devices

[lmao2k]

If its extra IDE ports then go for one with the ITE chipset.

 

If its extra SATA ports for optical devices then grab one with the new Sil chipset.

 

If its extra SATA ports for HDDs then get anything that is does NOT have the Sil chipset! My personal preference is the Adaptec 4 port PCI-E cards, however 3ware cards are damn good or the budget option would be one from HighPoint (One of their tech guys assured me they do not use any Sil chipsets on their current range).

[DarK HawK]

If its extra IDE ports then go for one with the ITE chipset.

 

If its extra SATA ports for optical devices then grab one with the new Sil chipset.

 

If its extra SATA ports for HDDs then get anything that is does NOT have the Sil chipset! My personal preference is the Adaptec 4 port PCI-E cards, however 3ware cards are damn good or the budget option would be one from HighPoint (One of their tech guys assured me they do not use any Sil chipsets on their current range).

 

Thanks a lot for the insight lmao2k

 

Unfortunately I've already ordered this StarTech card with the jmicron controller for the extra IDE optical drives I have.

 

I'll try it and give you feedback, and if it wasn't any good, I'll grab one with ITE chipset.

[lmao2k]

You're welcome. If you do find that an ITE card is needed then this one from ebay will do the job. The prices of the card varies.

 

Alternatively if money allows just get a new batch of burners with the SATA interface, thats what I shall be doing for a number of reasons including that I can route the cables better!

[DarK HawK]

Out of curiosity.

 

Does the controller affect the quality of the burn?

[cornholio7]

mine doesn't ,

 

I 17:01:28 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.35 Beta started!

I 17:01:28 Microsoft Windows Vista Business Edition (6.0, Build 6000)

I 17:01:28 Total Physical Memory: 2.094.976 KB - Available: 875.332 KB

I 17:01:29 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:01:29 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:01:49 Found 2 DVD-ROMs, 2 DVD±RWs and 2 DVD±RW/RAMs!

I 17:02:09 Operation Started!

I 17:02:09 Source File: G:\DVD ISO\*******.iso

I 17:02:09 Source File Sectors: 2.286.240 (MODE1/2048)

I 17:02:09 Source File Size: 4.682.219.520 bytes

I 17:02:09 Source File Volume Identifier: *******

I 17:02:09 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 378B5749C874A8B6

I 17:02:09 Source File Implementation Identifier: *******

I 17:02:09 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02)

I 17:02:09 Destination Device: [4:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111 1.29 (M:) (SCSI)

I 17:02:09 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x)

I 17:02:09 Destination Media Sectors: 2.297.888

I 17:02:09 Write Mode: DVD

I 17:02:09 Write Type: DAO

I 17:02:09 Write Speed: 8x

I 17:02:09 Link Size: Auto

I 17:02:09 Test Mode: No

I 17:02:09 OPC: No

I 17:02:09 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 17:02:10 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 17:02:11 Writing LeadIn...

I 17:02:42 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2286239)

I 17:02:42 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2286239)

I 17:10:16 Synchronising Cache...

I 17:10:28 Exporting Graph Data...

I 17:10:28 Graph Data File: G:\backup jan07\ibg\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111_1.29_31-DECEMBER-2007_17-02_TYG02_8x.ibg

I 17:10:28 Export Successfully Completed!

I 17:10:28 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:18

I 17:10:28 Average Write Rate: 10.071 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11.141 KB/s (8.0x)

I 17:10:28 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 17:10:38 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 17:10:59 Device Ready!

I 17:11:00 Operation Started!

I 17:11:00 Source Device: [4:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111 1.29 (M:) (SCSI)

I 17:11:00 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x)

I 17:11:00 Image File: G:\DVD ISO\*******.iso

I 17:11:00 Image File Sectors: 2.286.240 (MODE1/2048)

I 17:11:00 Image File Size: 4.682.219.520 bytes

I 17:11:00 Image File Volume Identifier: *******

I 17:11:00 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 378B5749C874A8B6

I 17:11:00 Image File Implementation Identifier: *******

I 17:11:00 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02)

I 17:11:00 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 17:11:00 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2286239)

I 17:11:00 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2286239)

I 17:17:41 Exporting Graph Data...

I 17:17:41 Graph Data File: G:\backup jan07\ibg\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111_1.29_31-DECEMBER-2007_17-02_TYG02_8x.ibg

I 17:17:41 Export Successfully Completed!

I 17:17:41 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:37

I 17:17:41 Average Verify Rate: 11.517 KB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17.341 KB/s (12.5x)

 

 

excuse the cpu graph i forgot to turn SETI off whilst burning

 

[DarK HawK]

Thanks cornholio7.

 

I still have some weird problem with the controller though.

One dvd burned ok but the session didn't close, tried it on other units and it showed as a blank, and couldn't close the session with nero either.

 

And btw, I figured what caused the earlier problem.

The patched firmware I was using caused the problem.

 

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/liteon-16a7s-...ware-new-207033

 

So

Liteon LH-20A1P + TYG03 + C0deKing Patched firmware + jmicron controller (Both versions) = failure.

 

The firmware enabled FastBurn + Enhanced OverSpeed + Enhanced Online HyperTuning.

I will try to find which one of those feature really caused the problem for the sake of research.

[dontasciime]

can you give an exact link on cdfreaks to where it says 20a1p and jmicron and patched firmware is a problem or even quote it

[DarK HawK]

can you give an exact link on cdfreaks to where it says 20a1p and jmicron and patched firmware is a problem or even quote it

 

I don't think I've read anything on cdfreaks like that.

 

It's a conclusion if I may.

 

I had a problem, and did three things to solve it at the same time.

 

Changed the IDE cable.

Changed the driver for the controller.

Changed the FW to the stock firmware.

 

Trying to pin point the source of the problem, I hooked the old IDE cable back and burned 5 DVDs with no problem, rolled back the driver and also burned like 7 DVDs still no problem, and flashed the patched firmware back, burned one dvd and the next one gave the error again.

 

So I jumped to the conclusion that There might be a conflict between one of the features with the Liteon and the controller..?

 

What do you think?

Edited December 31, 2007 by DarK HawK