jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 my dvd burner is being really weird lately. I dont know why, but it isn't burning at the same rate it usually is. Imgburn takes 15 mins now when it used to take only 3. Fast Facts: I have Nero 9 installed. DVD Burner: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L SCSI CdRom Device Computer Info: Running Vista SP1 Home Premium, 32bit, AMD, 3GB RAM. The last Nero 9 log i have said this: Windows Vista 6.0 IA32 WinAspi: - NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 9.0.9.100 Internal Version: 9, 0, 9, 100 (Nero Express) Recorder: <HL-DT-ST ram.cfm" class="forum_link" target="_blank">DVD-RAM GH10L> Version: FC0B - HA 1 TA 0 - 9.0.9.100 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L >Version: FC0B - HA 1 TA 0 - 9.0.9.100 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === : WDC WD3200AAJS-65B4A 01.0 nvstor32 Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off : HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH10L FC0B nvstor32 Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L E: CdRom0 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 2047MB (2097151kB) Free physical memory: 1683MB (1724260kB) Memory in use : 43 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 18.2.2009 UDF/ISO compilation 4:21:18 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450 LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL 4:21:18 PM #2 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 DVD-Video files reallocation started 4:21:18 PM #3 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified) 4:21:18 PM #4 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6789 UDF document burn settings ------------------------------------------ Determine maximum speed : FALSE Simulate : FALSE Write : TRUE Finalize CD : TRUE Multisession : FALSE Burning mode : DAO Mode : 1 UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge UDF Options : automatic UDF Revision : 1.02 UDF Partition Type : physical ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char) Character set : ISO 9660 Joliet : FALSE Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE 4:21:18 PM #5 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 DVD-Video files sorted 4:21:18 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 4:21:18 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 4:21:18 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3563 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 4:21:18 PM #9 Text 0 File FilesystemSettingsValidator.cpp, Line 142 FS Settings: using validator 'CUDFSettingsValidatorDVD' ParamMode = 'automatic', changing UDF partition type from 'physical' to 'physical' Changing UDF revision from '1.02' to '1.02' 4:21:18 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 4:21:18 PM #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 4:21:19 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 312 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB) 4:21:19 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 324 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 4:21:19 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2951 Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer ID: <CMC MA> <G. AM3> Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 4:21:19 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 499 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 4:21:19 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 756 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L] -------------------------------------------------------------- 4:21:19 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 958 Prepare [E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2286128 | 0 | 0x00 2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00 4:21:19 PM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 240 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 4:21:19 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4362 Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB) 4:21:19 PM #20 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 Caching of files started 4:21:19 PM #21 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4484 Cache writing successful. 4:21:19 PM #22 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 Caching of files completed 4:21:19 PM #23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s) 4:21:19 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2675 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 4:21:19 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3259 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode 4:21:19 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3413 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes 4:21:19 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10187 ---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33) Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Transfer Rate: <not specified> (F h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) Outer Limit of Data Recordable Area: 26127F h Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0 Revision number of minimum recording speed: - Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - - Class: 0, Extended part version: 33 Start PSN of the Extra Border Zone: 2FE10 h Start PSN of Physical format information blocks in Extra Border Zone: 2FFA0 h Media Specific [16..783]: 00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!.... 00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 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14 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .P.-............ 15 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 16 0B 45 3D 3B 1F 25 00 ..........E=;.%. 17 30 25 31 0D 8A B5 00 - 18 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .0%1............ 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 1A 0C 51 51 51 45 2D 00 ..........QQQE-. 1B 90 23 2D 19 79 B5 00 - 1C 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 ..#-.y.......... 1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 4:21:19 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3551 Reserved Track size: 2286128 (22E230h, 4465MB) -> return code 0 4:21:19 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 273 Pipe memory size 83836800 4:23:13 PM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1411 16:23:13.149 - E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L : Queue again later 4:32:49 PM #31 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245 <E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286128 (22E230h), length 0 blocks 4:33:01 PM #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3819 EndDAO: Last written address was 2286127 (22E22Fh) 4:33:01 PM #33 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1424 SetDriveCaps: Set LAST LBA of layer 1 to 0 4:33:01 PM #34 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s) 4:33:01 PM #35 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287 SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME 4:33:07 PM #36 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11444 DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed 4:33:07 PM #37 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450 UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL Existing drivers: Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon and the last ImgBurn Log that I have is this: I 22:27:24 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started! I 22:27:24 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6001 : Service Pack 1) I 22:27:24 Total Physical Memory: 3,077,900 KB - Available: 1,877,684 KB I 22:27:24 Initialising SPTI... I 22:27:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:27:29 Found 1 DVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hi and welcome to the forum, jeff a! Have you now or previously had Daemon Tools installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hi and welcome to the forum, jeff a! Have you now or previously had Daemon Tools installed? no i have not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 any ideas Cynthia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 4:21:19 PM #23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s) 4:33:01 PM #34 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s) 11 minutes doesn't sounds as a 16x write speed to me. More like 6x and that is also what ImgBurn reported. I'm not sure if Nero shows the verify part in the log. I'll check and return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 This is my test in Nero 8. Nero is laying, it never burned it at the rate it tells you. So you have the same issue in Nero as in ImgBurn. I had the same issue with my SATA writers on my ASUS motherboard. I ended up getting an internal SATA card instead. 05:03:49 #28 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767 Burn process started at 8x (11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 but the burning process never used to take this long. is there a way i can make it burn at 16x becuase i know it's capable of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Installed any drivers lately that could have any impact or added new hardware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 not i'm aware of. maybe a windows update is the culprit? i talked to an HP rep and they told me to uninstall nero 9. i havent done that yet, but i dont see how that will affect it anyway. then they told me to do a system restore, but there were only 3 restore points available - all within the past 2 days. the earliest one said that a windows update had occured (my reasoning for that as a possible issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Yes, I also doubt that Nero 9 is the issue. Sounds more as there is an issue with chip set drivers or that you have a hard disk on the same channel that is slowing down the speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/570160412wLSAdM I took some screen shots of my ATA controllers. That is the full album. I think I do have a situation like what you were talking about in this picture and the next two after it: http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/21...104821321kxrxQK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Looks ok in those pictures. Have you looked in BIOS to see how it's set up there regarding DMA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalves Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Maybe the drive is slowing the burn to 6x because you're using crappy media (notice it takes more than 2 minutes writing the lead-in). Try with Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks, or at the very least, with anything that doesn't use CMC MAG dye. Also, please attach this file to your next post: I 22:39:50 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yes, I also doubt that Nero 9 is the issue. Sounds more as there is an issue with chip set drivers or that you have a hard disk on the same channel that is slowing down the speed. But do these two pictures not mean that is the case: http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/29...104821321euNXtq http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/20...104821321HHKVGI They're both using the same ATA Controllerm just different ports on it. Maybe the drive is slowing the burn to 6x because you're using crappy media (notice it takes more than 2 minutes writing the lead-in). Try with Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks, or at the very least, with anything that doesn't use CMC MAG dye. Also, please attach this file to your next post: I 22:39:50 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg The burn didn't used to go this slow before and I have been using these same discs for months now (i bought a few spindles on 50 on black friday). also, mmalves, where am i supposed to find the file "HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg" Thanks for both of your help so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 where am i supposed to find the file "HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg" In this folder: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 File is attached HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY_FEBRUARY_19_2009_10_27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'm no expert in these graphs, but is looks as the writer is trying to get the speed above 6x and then suddenly drops (perhaps due to low quality of the discs) and then decides to stay at 6x, as that could be a 'safe' speed. Another interesting graph would been to see how the verify line is behaving, but as you never verified it's not possible to see if the writer 'struggles' to read the disc during the verify part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 i will do another burn right now and verify it. should have it up in 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 here you go. HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_SATURDAY_FEBRUARY_21_2009_5_22_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Shows a pretty straight read curve that ends at 6x, and at the same time the data on the disc is ended. I think you should try to find some Verbatim media to rule out the media as the fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff a Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 i will look to buy some verbatim next chance i get. just for the sake of it i attached a file of a burn that i did with a sony disc (all previous burns had been on a staples disc). beyond the verbatim discs is there any other advice you can offer as of now? HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_SATURDAY_FEBRUARY_21_2009_6_27_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 A 12x write that looks 'normal'. The only issue might be that the read (verify) graph is max 8x. It seems your previous issue with no write speed above 6x was 'low quality' discs related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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