Slow Burn

jeff a · February 20, 2009

my dvd burner is being really weird lately. I dont know why, but it isn't burning at the same rate it usually is. Imgburn takes 15 mins now when it used to take only 3.

Fast Facts:

I have Nero 9 installed.

DVD Burner: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L SCSI CdRom Device

Computer Info: Running Vista SP1 Home Premium, 32bit, AMD, 3GB RAM.

The last Nero 9 log i have said this:

Windows Vista 6.0

IA32

WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used

Nero Version: 9.0.9.100

Internal Version: 9, 0, 9, 100

(Nero Express)

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST ram.cfm" class="forum_link" target="_blank">DVD-RAM GH10L> Version: FC0B - HA 1 TA 0 - 9.0.9.100

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

Drive buffer : 2048kB

Bus Type : default

CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L >Version: FC0B - HA 1 TA 0 - 9.0.9.100

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===

: WDC WD3200AAJS-65B4A 01.0 nvstor32 Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH10L FC0B nvstor32 Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===

HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L E: CdRom0

=======================

AutoRun : 1

Excluded drive IDs:

WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte

BUFE : 0

Physical memory : 2047MB (2097151kB)

Free physical memory: 1683MB (1724260kB)

Memory in use : 43 %

Uncached PFiles: 0x0

Use Inquiry : 1

Global Bus Type: default (0)

Check supported media : Disabled (0)

18.2.2009

UDF/ISO compilation

4:21:18 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450

LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

4:21:18 PM #2 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

DVD-Video files reallocation started

4:21:18 PM #3 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

4:21:18 PM #4 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6789

UDF document burn settings

------------------------------------------

Determine maximum speed : FALSE

Simulate : FALSE

Write : TRUE

Finalize CD : TRUE

Multisession : FALSE

Burning mode : DAO

Mode : 1

UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge

UDF Options : automatic

UDF Revision : 1.02

UDF Partition Type : physical

ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)

Character set : ISO 9660

Joliet : FALSE

Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE

Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE

Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

4:21:18 PM #5 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

DVD-Video files sorted

4:21:18 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

4:21:18 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

4:21:18 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3563

Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

4:21:18 PM #9 Text 0 File FilesystemSettingsValidator.cpp, Line 142

FS Settings: using validator 'CUDFSettingsValidatorDVD'

ParamMode = 'automatic', changing UDF partition type from 'physical' to 'physical'

Changing UDF revision from '1.02' to '1.02'

4:21:18 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

4:21:18 PM #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

4:21:19 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 312

Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)

Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)

4:21:19 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 324

Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

4:21:19 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2951

Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L, Media type: DVD-R

Disc Manufacturer ID: <CMC MA> <G. AM3>

Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

4:21:19 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 499

>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

=========================================

4:21:19 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 756

Setup items (after recorder preparation)

0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()

2 indices, index0 (150) not provided

original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53

relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required

-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L]

--------------------------------------------------------------

4:21:19 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 958

Prepare [E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO

DAO infos:

==========

MCN: ""

TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated

Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk

1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""

DAO layout:

===========

0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2286128 | 0 | 0x00

2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

4:21:19 PM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 240

SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

4:21:19 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4362

Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)

4:21:19 PM #20 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

Caching of files started

4:21:19 PM #21 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4484

Cache writing successful.

4:21:19 PM #22 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

Caching of files completed

4:21:19 PM #23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

4:21:19 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2675

Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

4:21:19 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3259

Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

4:21:19 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3413

Start write address at LBA 0

DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

4:21:19 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10187

---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----

Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050

Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)

Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Transfer Rate: <not specified> (F h)

Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable

Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track

Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)

Outer Limit of Data Recordable Area: 26127F h

Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist

Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0

Revision number of minimum recording speed: -

Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - -

Class: 0, Extended part version: 33

Start PSN of the Extra Border Zone: 2FE10 h

Start PSN of Physical format information blocks in Extra Border Zone: 2FFA0 h

Media Specific [16..783]:

00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....

00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 - 02 84 0D 12 98 99 90 00 .@....R.........

03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 - 04 47 2E 20 41 4D 33 00 .CMC.MA..G..AM3.

05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 - 06 09 0D 14 98 88 90 00 ................

07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 - 08 07 17 0A 0E 09 04 00 ................

09 95 07 0D 0B 88 88 00 - 0A 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 ................

0B 06 17 15 B8 99 85 00 - 0C B8 9A 32 03 20 32 00 ...........2..2.

0D 00 00 D0 00 00 00 00 - 0E 09 1F 39 2F 25 1C 00 ...........9/%..

0F 50 19 29 19 89 B5 00 - 10 88 84 00 04 00 04 00 .P.)............

11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 12 09 2B 37 2D 29 1B 00 ..........+7-)..

13 50 1D 2D 1F A6 B5 00 - 14 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .P.-............

15 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 16 0B 45 3D 3B 1F 25 00 ..........E=;.%.

17 30 25 31 0D 8A B5 00 - 18 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .0%1............

19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 1A 0C 51 51 51 45 2D 00 ..........QQQE-.

1B 90 23 2D 19 79 B5 00 - 1C 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 ..#-.y..........

1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

4:21:19 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3551

Reserved Track size: 2286128 (22E230h, 4465MB) -> return code 0

4:21:19 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 273

Pipe memory size 83836800

4:23:13 PM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1411

16:23:13.149 - E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L : Queue again later

4:32:49 PM #31 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245

<E: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286128 (22E230h), length 0 blocks

4:33:01 PM #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3819

EndDAO: Last written address was 2286127 (22E22Fh)

4:33:01 PM #33 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1424

SetDriveCaps: Set LAST LBA of layer 1 to 0

4:33:01 PM #34 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767

Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

4:33:01 PM #35 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287

SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

4:33:07 PM #36 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11444

DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

4:33:07 PM #37 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450

UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

and the last ImgBurn Log that I have is this:

I 22:27:24 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started!

I 22:27:24 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6001 : Service Pack 1)

I 22:27:24 Total Physical Memory: 3,077,900 KB - Available: 1,877,684 KB

I 22:27:24 Initialising SPTI...

I 22:27:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 22:27:29 Found 1 DVD

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

Hi and welcome to the forum, jeff a!

Have you now or previously had Daemon Tools installed?

jeff a · February 20, 2009

Hi and welcome to the forum, jeff a!

Have you now or previously had Daemon Tools installed?

no i have not

jeff a · February 20, 2009

any ideas Cynthia?

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

4:21:19 PM #23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

4:33:01 PM #34 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

11 minutes doesn't sounds as a 16x write speed to me. More like 6x and that is also what ImgBurn reported.

I'm not sure if Nero shows the verify part in the log. I'll check and return.

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

This is my test in Nero 8.

Nero is laying, it never burned it at the rate it tells you. :angry:

So you have the same issue in Nero as in ImgBurn. I had the same issue with my SATA writers on my ASUS motherboard. I ended up getting an internal SATA card instead.

05:03:49 #28 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process started at 8x (11

jeff a · February 20, 2009

but the burning process never used to take this long.

is there a way i can make it burn at 16x becuase i know it's capable of that

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

Installed any drivers lately that could have any impact or added new hardware?

jeff a · February 20, 2009

not i'm aware of. maybe a windows update is the culprit?

i talked to an HP rep and they told me to uninstall nero 9. i havent done that yet, but i dont see how that will affect it anyway. then they told me to do a system restore, but there were only 3 restore points available - all within the past 2 days. the earliest one said that a windows update had occured (my reasoning for that as a possible issue).

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

Yes, I also doubt that Nero 9 is the issue.

Sounds more as there is an issue with chip set drivers or that you have a hard disk on the same channel that is slowing down the speed.

jeff a · February 20, 2009

http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/570160412wLSAdM

I took some screen shots of my ATA controllers. That is the full album. I think I do have a situation like what you were talking about in this picture and the next two after it:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/21...104821321kxrxQK

**Cynthia** · February 20, 2009

Looks ok in those pictures.

Have you looked in BIOS to see how it's set up there regarding DMA?

**mmalves** · February 20, 2009

Maybe the drive is slowing the burn to 6x because you're using crappy media (notice it takes more than 2 minutes writing the lead-in). Try with Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks, or at the very least, with anything that doesn't use CMC MAG dye.

Also, please attach this file to your next post:

I 22:39:50 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg

jeff a · February 21, 2009

Yes, I also doubt that Nero 9 is the issue.

Sounds more as there is an issue with chip set drivers or that you have a hard disk on the same channel that is slowing down the speed.

But do these two pictures not mean that is the case:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/29...104821321euNXtq

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/20...104821321HHKVGI

They're both using the same ATA Controllerm just different ports on it.

Maybe the drive is slowing the burn to 6x because you're using crappy media (notice it takes more than 2 minutes writing the lead-in). Try with Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks, or at the very least, with anything that doesn't use CMC MAG dye.

Also, please attach this file to your next post:

I 22:39:50 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg

The burn didn't used to go this slow before and I have been using these same discs for months now (i bought a few spindles on 50 on black friday). also, mmalves, where am i supposed to find the file "HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg"

Thanks for both of your help so far!

**Cynthia** · February 21, 2009

where am i supposed to find the file "HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY-FEBRUARY-19-2009_10-27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg"

In this folder:

C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\

jeff a · February 21, 2009

File is attached

HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_THURSDAY_FEBRUARY_19_2009_10_27_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg

**Cynthia** · February 21, 2009

I'm no expert in these graphs, but is looks as the writer is trying to get the speed above 6x and then suddenly drops (perhaps due to low quality of the discs) and then decides to stay at 6x, as that could be a 'safe' speed.

Another interesting graph would been to see how the verify line is behaving, but as you never verified it's not possible to see if the writer 'struggles' to read the disc during the verify part.

jeff a · February 21, 2009

i will do another burn right now and verify it. should have it up in 15 mins.

jeff a · February 21, 2009

here you go.

HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_SATURDAY_FEBRUARY_21_2009_5_22_PM_CMC_MAG._AM3_MAX.ibg

**Cynthia** · February 21, 2009

Shows a pretty straight read curve that ends at 6x, and at the same time the data on the disc is ended.

I think you should try to find some Verbatim media to rule out the media as the fault.

jeff a · February 21, 2009

i will look to buy some verbatim next chance i get.

just for the sake of it i attached a file of a burn that i did with a sony disc (all previous burns had been on a staples disc).

beyond the verbatim discs is there any other advice you can offer as of now?

HL_DT_ST_DVD_RAM_GH10L_FC0B_SATURDAY_FEBRUARY_21_2009_6_27_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

**Cynthia** · February 22, 2009

A 12x write that looks 'normal'. The only issue might be that the read (verify) graph is max 8x. It seems your previous issue with no write speed above 6x was 'low quality' discs related.

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