Plextor PX-880SA Booktype Setting

[gazo]

Imgburn will not let me set the Booktype on my recently acquired Plextor PX-880SA

I am aware of the advanced settings to let Imgburn think it is an OEM Lite-On drive but the trick does not work

 

I am also aware that the Admin has made a note that the Booktype setting to DVD-ROM seems less important than it used to but especially navigation dvd's still require the DVD-ROM booktype

 

I have read here that there seems to be a problem to issue the correct bit setting command to the Plextor drives but then I do wonder why a program like Alcohol 120% which I thoroughly dislike, can do the job flawlessly

 

Also the suggestion to change the firmware with the aid of Media Code Speed dit seems pointless as the Plextor firmwares come as an exe file that cannot be extracted and seems to be encrypted anyway

 

To cut things short, is there any chance that we might see a forthcoming update with the possibility to change the book type on the Plextor?

 

Thanks

[LIGHTNING UK!]

All that stuff you're talking about for MediaCodeSpeedEdit was for a totally different drive. It doesn't apply here.

 

If you try and do the booktype stuff manually, do the LiteOn commands actually work?

 

If so, there's no reason it wouldn't work automatically if you configure the drive ID properly in the 'Advanced' section.

 

LiteOn drives also have a permanent setting (EEPROM) for the booktype stuff so once you've configured it, it'll use that setting each time anyway.

 

Alcohol may have a lookup table for each and every drive so it knows which command to issue - I'm not doing that.

[gazo]

I have set the drive as Lite-On OEM and an ID of PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SAIt did not give me the result I hoped for. DVD+R DL and DVD+R are not written as DVD-ROM

 

After starting up the computer in the morning and using Alcohol only once, I can write any number of DVD+R with Imgburn and all are then written as DVD-ROM. So the initial setting is retained for the remainder of the time the computer is left switched on but a re-start causes the booktype setting to be lost again

 

I also have a Lite-On LH20A1S which does not retain the book type setting after re-start but this drive will be set correctly with the Automatic Booktype setting

 

Although I appreciate that you're not doing the bit setting for the Plextor, I was hoping you would re-consider

Anyway, if you do change your view, the Plextor tab is already there!

 

Thanks

Edited January 7, 2011 by gazo

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I've just crossflashed my iHAS324 to a PX-880SA to test this out.

 

Using the official 1.13 firmware and having added the 'PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA' Device ID under the 'Lite-On' Drive OEM section in the 'Advanced' box, the booktype stuff works just fine.

 

So all I can say now is that if you have a problem, you need to post the log so we can see what's actually happening.

 

Here's mine...

 

I 17:21:28 ImgBurn Version 2.5.4.1 Beta started!

I 17:21:28 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)

I 17:21:28 Total Physical Memory: 3,143,248 KB - Available: 881,724 KB

I 17:21:28 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:21:28 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:21:29 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (W:) (Virtual)

I 17:21:29 -> Drive 2 - Info: ATAPI iHAS624 B GL24 (M:) (ATA)

I 17:21:29 -> Drive 3 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA)

I 17:21:29 -> Drive 4 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7263S 1.03 (Q:) (ATA)

I 17:21:29 -> Drive 5 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-217F 1.07 (P:) (ATA)

I 17:21:30 -> Drive 6 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (N:) (ATA)

I 17:21:30 -> Drive 7 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.13 (I:) (ATA)

I 17:21:30 -> Drive 8 - Info: DVDFab Virtual Drive 1.0 (X:) (SCSI)

I 17:21:30 -> Drive 9 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (V:) (SCSI)

I 17:21:30 Found 2 DVD±RWs, 3 DVD±RW/RAMs, 1 BD-ROM, 2 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!

I 17:22:41 Operation Started!

I 17:22:41 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==-

I 17:22:41 Source File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048)

I 17:22:41 Source File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

I 17:22:41 Source File Volume Identifier: IMGBURN_DISCOVERY_IMAGE

I 17:22:41 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 2295104_SECTORS

I 17:22:41 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.5.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 17:22:41 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.5.0

I 17:22:41 Source File File System(s): ISO9660

I 17:22:41 Destination Device: [5:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.13 (I:) (ATA)

I 17:22:41 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00) (Speeds: 6x, 8x)

I 17:22:41 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104

I 17:22:41 Write Mode: DVD

I 17:22:41 Write Type: DAO

I 17:22:41 Write Speed: MAX

I 17:22:41 DVD+R Reserve Track: No

I 17:22:41 Link Size: Auto

I 17:22:41 Lock Volume: Yes

I 17:22:41 Test Mode: No

I 17:22:41 OPC: No

I 17:22:41 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 17:22:41 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x)

I 17:25:44 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM

I 17:25:46 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes

I 17:25:47 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 17:25:47 Writing LeadIn...

I 17:26:08 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

I 17:26:08 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

I 17:33:49 Synchronising Cache...

I 17:33:54 Closing Track...

I 17:33:55 Finalising Disc...

I 17:34:08 Exporting Graph Data...

I 17:34:08 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PLEXTOR_DVDR_PX-880SA_1.13_07-JANUARY-2011_17-22_YUDEN000-T02-00_MAX.ibg

I 17:34:08 Export Successfully Completed!

I 17:34:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:26

I 17:34:08 Average Write Rate: 9,957 KB/s (7.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,203 KB/s (8.1x)

I 17:34:08 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 17:34:16 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 17:34:29 Device Ready!

I 17:34:30 Operation Started!

I 17:34:30 Source Device: [5:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.13 (I:) (ATA)

I 17:34:30 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00) (Speeds: 6x, 8x)

I 17:34:30 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==-

I 17:34:30 Image File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048)

I 17:34:30 Image File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

I 17:34:30 Image File Volume Identifier: IMGBURN_DISCOVERY_IMAGE

I 17:34:30 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 2295104_SECTORS

I 17:34:30 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.5.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 17:34:30 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.5.0

I 17:34:30 Image File File System(s): ISO9660

I 17:34:30 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 17:34:30 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

I 17:34:30 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

I 17:39:28 Exporting Graph Data...

I 17:39:28 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PLEXTOR_DVDR_PX-880SA_1.13_07-JANUARY-2011_17-22_YUDEN000-T02-00_MAX.ibg

I 17:39:28 Export Successfully Completed!

I 17:39:28 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:58

I 17:39:28 Average Verify Rate: 15,455 KB/s (11.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,492 KB/s (16.2x)

 

PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.13 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD+R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

State of Last Session: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 6x, 8x

 

TOC Information:

Session 1... (LBA: 0)

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 2295104)

 

Disc Control Blocks Information:

PLEXTOR

 

Physical Format Information (ADIP):

Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00

Book Type: DVD+R

Part Version: 1

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):

Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00

Book Type: DVD-ROM

Part Version: 1

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Performance (Write Speed):

Descriptor 1...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)

-> RS: 22,160 KB/s (16x) - WS: 8,310 KB/s (6x)

Descriptor 2...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 2295103 (0x0023053F)

-> RS: 22,160 KB/s (16x) - WS: 11,080 KB/s (8x)

[gazo]

Looks OK and I will try again tomorrow morning

 

Are the PX-880SA and Lite-On iHAS324 100% identical drives or only after cross flashing? And are the internals mechanically the same?

I am asking since writing results of the Plextor seem far superior to the Lite-On

Edited January 7, 2011 by gazo

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I'm not in a position to answer that.

 

They use the same chipset and obviously the firmware on a real 880 and a crossflashed 880 is the same, I'm pretty sure that's all that matters.

[gazo]

Well, I tried again this morning and here is the log:

I 08:40:24 ImgBurn Version 2.5.4.0 started!

I 08:40:24 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 08:40:24 Total Physical Memory: 2.096.172 KB - Available: 1.262.236 KB

I 08:40:25 Initialising SPTI...

I 08:40:25 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40 NL01 (R:) (ATA)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S 9L08 (Q:) (ATA)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 3 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (H:) (ATA)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 4 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.12 (G:) (ATA)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 5 - Info: Image Simulation 1.0g (K:) (SCSI)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 6 - Info: OBVIOUS DVD-ROM MAGIC 62 6.00 (I:) (SCSI)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 7 - Info: OBVIOUS DVD-ROM MAGIC 62 6.00 (J:) (SCSI)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 8 - Info: SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a (V:) (SCSI)

I 08:40:25 -> Drive 9 - Info: SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a (W:) (SCSI)

I 08:40:25 Found 1 CD-ROM, 4 DVD-ROMs and 4 DVD±RW/RAMs!

I 08:43:36 Operation Started!

I 08:43:36 Source File: Z:\Navigatie\VW\RNS2 V7\v7.iso

I 08:43:36 Source File Sectors: 3.317.479 (MODE1/2048)

I 08:43:36 Source File Size: 6.794.196.992 bytes

I 08:43:36 Source File Volume Identifier: V7

I 08:43:36 Source File Application Identifier: NERO BURNING ROM

I 08:43:36 Source File Implementation Identifier: ULTRAISO v8.6.3.2056

I 08:43:36 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet

I 08:43:36 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.12 (G:) (ATA)

I 08:43:36 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2,4x)

I 08:43:36 Destination Media Sectors: 4.173.824

I 08:43:36 Write Mode: DVD

I 08:43:36 Write Type: DAO

I 08:43:36 Write Speed: 2,4x

I 08:43:36 Link Size: Auto

I 08:43:36 Lock Volume: Yes

I 08:43:36 Test Mode: No

I 08:43:36 OPC: No

I 08:43:36 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 08:43:36 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3.324 KB/s (2,4x)

I 08:43:36 Book Type Setting: N/A (Reason: Invalid Command Operation Code)

I 08:43:37 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1.658.752

I 08:43:37 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary

I 08:43:56 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 08:43:56 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 08:43:57 Abort Request Acknowledged

I 08:43:57 Synchronising Cache...

W 08:44:02 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.

E 08:44:02 Failed to Write Image!

E 08:44:06 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:00:25

I 08:44:06 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

 

 

You will notice that this trick did not work for me

 

A cross flashed iHAS324 seems to be easier to set than a real PX-880SA

Edited January 8, 2011 by gazo

[Cynthia]

Why did you abort the burn?

 

I 08:43:57 Abort Request Acknowledged

If you burn the disc + verify you should see if the burner book types DL+ media by itself.

 

Edit:

 

This guy had the same issue and the burner do not book type on its own.

 

I 11:17:48 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD+R DL) (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)

But on the other hand it seems he managed to fix it in the advanced settings.

 

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=12603

 

Edit 2:

 

There is an example in this guide in section 4.2.12.9 Advanced how to set it.

 

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6392

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Yeah, it looks like you've done the 'Advanced' bit wrong somehow and that the program is only ever trying the real Plextor style booktype commands (rather than the LiteOn ones too).

 

All you have to add is this:

 

[gazo]

Mysettings in Advanced:

 

 

It looks remarkebly similar to yours

Still it does not work

Edited January 8, 2011 by gazo

[Cynthia]

Perhaps just the image that tricks me. But it looks as there are two spaces after DVDR.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

What does your booktype screen look like if you do as I've done below (selection wise) ?

 

 

That's what mine looks like having just turned it on.

 

Is there any reason you've stuck with the 1.12 firmware rather than updating to 1.13?

[gazo]

Perhaps just the image that tricks me. But it looks as there are two spaces after DVDR.

 

There are indeed 2 spaces, fully identical to the reported ID !

 

I have not updated the FW to 1.13 since I have just obtained the drive a week ago

I would like to know the contents of the change log.

Have not found it yet

 

On restart all settings as per your picture are the same with me. Everything is set to "Normal"

Edited January 8, 2011 by gazo

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The spaces don't matter, the program compresses them down to a single space before doing any string comparisons.

[gazo]

I have done as you sai:

At the beginning of the program selected the Plextor drive, book type setting, advanced, Lite-On, New Write and everything was already set to DVD-ROM

 

I 20:26:43 ImgBurn Version 2.5.4.0 started!

I 20:26:43 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 20:26:43 Total Physical Memory: 2.096.172 KB - Available: 1.277.788 KB

I 20:26:43 Initialising SPTI...

I 20:26:43 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 20:26:43 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40 NL01 (R:) (ATA)

I 20:26:43 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S 9L08 (Q:) (ATA)

I 20:26:43 -> Drive 3 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (H:) (ATA)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 4 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.12 (G:) (ATA)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 5 - Info: Image Simulation 1.0g (K:) (SCSI)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 6 - Info: OBVIOUS DVD-ROM MAGIC 62 6.00 (I:) (SCSI)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 7 - Info: OBVIOUS DVD-ROM MAGIC 62 6.00 (J:) (SCSI)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 8 - Info: SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a (V:) (SCSI)

I 20:26:44 -> Drive 9 - Info: SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a (W:) (SCSI)

I 20:26:44 Found 1 CD-ROM, 4 DVD-ROMs and 4 DVD±RW/RAMs!

I 20:27:54 Operation Started!

I 20:27:54 Source File: Z:\Navigatie\Audi\RNS-E 2011\86271-V574C5.MDS

I 20:27:54 Source File Sectors: 3.862.096 (MODE1/2048)

I 20:27:54 Source File Size: 7.909.572.608 bytes

I 20:27:54 Source File Volume Identifier: 86271-V574C5

I 20:27:54 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3d111e84

I 20:27:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: ROM Formatter 3.1

I 20:27:54 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02)

I 20:27:54 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA 1.12 (G:) (ATA)

I 20:27:54 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x)

I 20:27:54 Destination Media Sectors: 4.173.824

I 20:27:54 Write Mode: DVD

I 20:27:54 Write Type: DAO

I 20:27:54 Write Speed: 2,4x

I 20:27:54 Link Size: Auto

I 20:27:54 Lock Volume: Yes

I 20:27:54 Test Mode: No

I 20:27:54 OPC: No

I 20:27:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled

W 20:27:54 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3.324 KB/s (2,4x), Got: 5.540 KB/s (4x)

I 20:27:54 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM

I 20:27:54 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes

I 20:27:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2.086.912

I 20:27:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 20:28:15 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 20:28:15 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 20:28:16 Writing LeadIn...

I 20:28:17 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3862095)

I 20:28:17 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3862095)

I 20:28:17 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911)

 

 

The final result bis a perfect DVD-ROM

Thanks

Edited January 8, 2011 by gazo