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  3. I had a fluke with a burn I made today where the Device Buffer was barely filling and the burn went very slow (would have taken four hours so I cancelled it). Checked the logs against the log made during a successful burn yesterday with the same discs. Turns out my external usb 2.0 drive was detected as usb 1.1 for some reason (suspect it happened when I had it in sleep). Disconnecting the drive and plugging it back in fixed the issue and I was able to burn normally though sadly I made a coaster out of a DVD-DL disc.
  4. Depends on your definition of a few. I always try 3 times in a row before I declare a hardware failure. If you burned 3 to 5 discs that failed in a row, then it's most likely the hardware, particularly if you had no problems with these BD-R before. However, there is something to note: I 07:30:15 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-000) CMC Magnetics makes the worst optical discs out there. So, it's not uncommon to have a package of discs where a lot of them burn fine in a row and then you get some errors in a row.
  5. Thanks. Do you think that means the drive is breaking down and I should replace it? I burned a few discs after those failed verifications and they burned fine.
  6. It sounds like your drive is occasionally doing a bad job of burning the discs and they’re then unreadable - hence failing at the verification stage.
  7. I've tried burning 2 different Bluray ISO images using the Verify option. Both times Verify stops at 97-99% with this error message: "cannot read medium incompatible format". The discs are BD-R Pidata AAA-CMC (HTL with Dark Inorganic Dye) 25GB 4x. I'm only burning at 4x. I've burned to many of those discs before to the same drive without issues and from the same image on a hard drive so why do I get that error message saying incompatible format? Log is below. I click on Try Again but I soon get that error again. I cancel the Verify window then close and re-open the program then do another Verify and it gives the error again. But if I close and re-open the program and try burning onto a new blank disc then verification works! Why? Does it matter what read speed the Verification is done at with regards to the speed causing failed verifications as I just leave it on max read speed? I 07:30:15 Operation Started! I 07:30:15 Source File: K:\ECW Hardcore TV 1993-2000 ISOs\ECW Hardcore TV 1994 Bluray ISOs\Eastern CW 1994 Disc 2 - July 5 to December 27.iso I 07:30:15 Source File Sectors: 12,201,056 (MODE1/2048) I 07:30:15 Source File Size: 24,987,762,688 bytes I 07:30:15 Source File Volume Identifier: Eastern CW 1994 Disc 2 - July 5 to December 27 I 07:30:15 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4329984F00BA28E6 I 07:30:15 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 07:30:15 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 07:30:15 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 07:30:15 Destination Device: [4:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS38 1.03 (B:) (SATA) I 07:30:15 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-000) I 07:30:15 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x I 07:30:15 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392 I 07:30:15 Write Mode: BD I 07:30:15 Write Type: DAO I 07:30:15 Write Speed: 4x I 07:30:15 Hardware Defect Management Active: No I 07:30:15 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes I 07:30:15 Link Size: Auto I 07:30:15 Lock Volume: Yes I 07:30:15 Test Mode: No I 07:30:15 OPC: No I 07:30:15 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 07:30:15 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 17,982 KB/s (4x) I 07:30:29 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 07:30:30 Writing LeadIn... I 07:30:31 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 12201055) I 07:30:31 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 12201055) I 07:53:50 Synchronising Cache... I 07:53:54 Closing Track... I 07:53:55 Finalising Disc... I 07:54:31 Exporting Graph Data... I 07:54:31 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Dave\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH10LS38_1.03_13-JANUARY-2022_07-30_CMCMAG-BA3-000_4x.ibg I 07:54:31 Export Successfully Completed! I 07:54:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:24:16 I 07:54:31 Average Write Rate: 17,455 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,667 KiB/s (4.0x) I 07:54:31 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 07:54:41 Waiting for device to become ready... I 07:54:54 Device Ready! I 07:54:55 Operation Started! I 07:54:55 Source Device: [4:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS38 1.03 (B:) (SATA) I 07:54:55 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-000) I 07:54:55 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 4.8x I 07:54:55 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x I 07:54:55 Source Media Sectors: 12,201,056 I 07:54:55 Source Media Size: 24,987,762,688 bytes I 07:54:55 Image File: K:\ECW Hardcore TV 1993-2000 ISOs\ECW Hardcore TV 1994 Bluray ISOs\Eastern CW 1994 Disc 2 - July 5 to December 27.iso I 07:54:55 Image File Sectors: 12,201,056 (MODE1/2048) I 07:54:55 Image File Size: 24,987,762,688 bytes I 07:54:55 Image File Volume Identifier: Eastern CW 1994 Disc 2 - July 5 to December 27 I 07:54:55 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4329984F00BA28E6 I 07:54:55 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0 I 07:54:55 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 07:54:55 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 07:54:55 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 07:54:56 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 4.8x I 07:54:56 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 12201055) I 07:54:56 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 12201055) W 08:21:33 Failed to Read Sectors 12114784 - 12114815 - Reason: Cannot Read Medium - Incompatible Format W 08:21:37 Failed to Read Sector 12114784 - Reason: Cannot Read Medium - Incompatible Format W 08:21:37 Sector 12114784 maps to File: \BDMV\STREAM\00024.m2ts W 08:26:06 Retrying (1)... W 08:26:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Read Medium - Incompatible Format W 08:35:39 Retrying (2)... W 08:35:41 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Read Medium - Incompatible Format W 08:35:45 Retrying (3)... W 08:35:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Read Medium - Incompatible Format
  8. The ASUS BW-16D1HT is a good enough BD model of choice so long as you don't need to burn DVD+R DL. I stopped testing it when it failed on that media, but it was working on DVD+RW, DVD-R, and BD-R. However, as I said, I never tested it beyond those 3 media types so I don't know what other gotchas may be present. Although the jury was still out on DVD+RW, I think, because I seem to recall being uncertain if the skips in playback on testing were because of the ASUS drive. I never got around to further detailed testing before the DVD+R DL failure was a deal killer.
  9. I have reached out to LG explaining the issue with firmware and asking for assistance. Will see what they reply. *** I don't really want to buy another LG because of bad experiences with the brand - the previous DVD burner was from LG, and died due to 'tracking error' - the only reason I bought a Blu-ray burner from them, was because it was the only model available locally at the time. They do acceptably good TV's tho. Thanks for heads-up on the pioneer, but knowing local market, any new line of product will take around half year to come here or longer, and I really want to have operable burner this month for data archival, and, I suppose, verifying that old burned BD-R actually still hold their data. My only choices at this moment, ruling out LG, are Pioneer drives, because Hitachi is made by LG, and Asus (BW-16D1HT) is probably also based on LG, so... not much choice. The Asus puzzles me actually, being the priciest in store and having some kind of "Green" technology, which looks like a red flag for me - seriously, what kind of energy saving you can do with drive that uses almost no power when there is no disk spinning in it??
  10. One of the good things about LG is their very good replacement policy. I have one that I need to return sometime this week. I've been returning dead or faulty units for about 3 years now and I've never been charged a replacement fee. Even though the out of warranty replacement fee is $50, and they've told me it would cost $50, they've never actually ever charged me for a replacement, even for out of warranty units. Even if they did charge me, I'd pay for it as it's cheaper than buying a whole new unit.
  11. I've read on these forums that it does seem to matter in what part of the world you live in that determines who makes what. So, I've heard a few times here that in Europe, Verbatim farms out to CMC for their BD-R. So, there's really not much you can do about that. Unfortunately, LG is the best of the worst. Pioneer used to make a fine product, but no more. I've been telling them of a firmware error in their drives for over 5 years now and they still haven't corrected it. The last one I had, Pioneer had to refund my money because it died before 2 months after purchase. ASUS is fine if you have no plans on burning DVD+R DL discs as it cannot properly write to those. I told them, too, what the firmware problem was, but they refuse to address it, either. The different model numbering schemes of Pioneers generally refer to the extra features they have. For instance, the base model doesn't support XL media. One model is probably an Ultra HD BD drive. If you're going to give Pioneer a try, you may want to hold off for a bit. There are rumors Pioneer is preparing the 213 line for release soon. They've already ceased production, so it goes, on the 212 series and are just selling remaining stock now to clear out for the 213's. I am waiting on the 213 to see if they've ever fixed the nagging firmware issue. If you're interested in what I use, it's the LG WH16NS60. The NS40 is cheaper, but it does not write properly to BD DL media. While I'll never use the Ultra 4K Blu-Ray feature of the NS60 that makes it more expensive, it does properly write to BD-RE DL I've tested it with.
  12. Location is central europe. The photo is taken from the manufacturer website and matches the box label I kept (product here https://www.verbatim.net.pl/pl/prod/bd-r-sl-datalife-25gb-6x-wide-inkjet-printable-25-pack-spindle-43811/) The disks themselves have no markings, because they are inkjet-printable. There is faint number sequence on the underside, but mirrored and hard to read. If ImgBurn identified it as CMC, thats probably what it is. Sucks to get cheated by manufacturer. Might explain the inexplicable fails and why sometimes it worked and sometimes not - believe me, I tried like 5 diff programs and began to think some windows drivers are messed up. I cannot verify the burned disk, because 1) the drive is dead as of now and 2) turned the disk into mug coaster, because its unusable. Speaking of burner, I used the manufacturer provided firmware update download from the site, for this exact model. It did not complain about wrong model (in fact, if i download older firmware version meant for "previous" model, it screams that checksum check failed.). The updater correctly identified the drive as 1.03 and updated it to 1.05, but the program hung about 80% up, so after 10 mins of waiting I killed it. Since then, the drive tray opens, but no discs spin or read. Manufacturer updater programs refuse to downgrade the drive to 1.3, or reinstal 1.05 citing the newest firmware is already installed. From what I read in internet the new and awesome firmware is also encrypted and locked, so you cannot overwrite it with anything else. There might be some hacky ways to restore the drive, but my forum digging has been wildly inconclusive so far. Enough to say, I am not buying anything from LG ever again. Can you recommend any burners that would work with the low quality media I got? Don't really want to toss out the box of BD-R I paid 20$ for. Although the only real choices locally are Pioneer BDR S12 LXT / DR-212DBK / BDR212EBK [can't really see whats the difference between them.]
  13. In what part of the world are you? I've never seen Verbatim BD-R packaging like that before. I've heard of Verbatim DataLife Plus, but never DataLife. Life Series DVD and CD are the CMC junk media, but DataLife Plus CD and DVD are the Mitsubishi MKM good stuff. I think in certain parts of the world, Verbatim farms out their BD-R to CMC. In North America, the Disc ID is VERBAT-IM. Could you post an image of the label surface on top of one of these BD-R? It could be the CMC discs. I know with some CMC DVD+R, once burned, some DVD players do not recognize they're inserted. So, that could have happened with your burned BD-R in your drive. The drive isn't recognizing a CMC inserted burned disc. You can tell by putting one of these BD-R you burned in a drive and in ImgBurn in either read or write modes, there's a line in the pane of information on the right that says something like Disc ID/DID or Manufacturer ID/MID. If it says CMC, you burned a CMC. If it says VERBAT-IM, you burned one of the higher quality discs. Which means we'll have to dig deeper into the problem. But, doing that will tell if you burned a CMC or VERBAT-IM BD-R as it seems you may be a bit uncertain as to which log you may have attached. If you did brick the burner, you're probably better off just getting a new one. I've never come across that situation, but I'd say it's relatively impossible to unbrick a device without sending it in to the manufacturer. Even the, the manufacturer will just replace it because it's cheaper and easier. LG firmware updaters are, generally, smart enough to know what device you've attached and if the firmware you're trying to flash is incompatible. Unless you were using custom home brew firmware and were using an outside flasher.
  14. Image of the disks used. I specifically bought Verbatim, as reputable manufacturer, and looked out to avoid LTH disks. The 'burned' disk has the telltale ring on it, but the drive happilly accepted it as 'blank' and burned the same thing again on it (taking another 20+ minutes), but disk was still empty. The attached log may be from that second attempt. As a side note, I managed to "kill" the writer when updating firmware (because several google results claimed "update firmware to solve the burning issues with blu-ray, and LG is not very good with labelling their firmware or doing any safety checks). If you think its the disks, I'll have to try and unbrick the writer, then try another disk... wish me luck.
  15. If you check the bottom of the disc and see two different colors in the ring, one darker than the other, the darker area is the part that was burned. This could be your issue: I 02:20:48 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA5-000) CMC Magnetics makes the worst optical media out there. (Ironically enough, they own Verbatim, which also distributes the best media out there. Though they don't always MAKE their own best media.) It's not unusual to get a package of discs where some work fine but others don't. Do you have an image of the packaging you can link? It's a bit odd for Verbatim BD-R to use CMC MAG, as the normal Disc ID, at least in North America, has VERBAT-IM in it. I've used that drive you're using a long time ago, and I do know it works on Verbatim BD-R when the Disc ID has VERBAT-IM in it.
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  17. Using verbatim BD-R (6x speed, printable surface) The drive is HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH16NS40 Burning at 4x. ImgBurn burns the whole disk, then fails at verification with "Failed to Read Sectors 0 - 31 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error". It took over 20 minutes to finish - so it has been doing "something". But the disk appears empty in windows explorer, but I can see a faint darker ring on it - is it burned or not? I experienced similar problems last time I burned Blu-ray disks a couple months ago - various programs failing to write (eg infrarecorder, burnaware), then ImgBurn worked ok on same disk/drive. And now it doesn't. Is this some random issue? Bad disks? Broken drive? Please see attached log. imgburn issue.txt
  18. TDK made the CMC DVD-R I tested out cheaply from Big Lots. So, they weren't an expensive gamble to see if they were any good. But, it does go to show TDK will use CMC. Ironically enough, TDK made decent DVD+R DL last time I tested them. The Verbatim AZO will say so on the package. For instance, I've used these before, currently unavailable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008L3HV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The inkjet label CD-R's you linked look like the good stuff I've gotten. Here are the last good Mitsubishi CD-R I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001LS35W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 Granted, I haven't gotten any of those in over 6 years. So, they may no longer be the same high quality they used to be.
  19. Canada. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00029U1DK/ are the Verbatim I picked up. These coaster about 50% or so of all burns after using half the spindle. They're also so thin that you can see right through them - label and all, which is odd as I hadn't seen that before. I ended up throwing these out as if I can't rely on the disk, what good are they? https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125007836583 are the TDK I picked up. I was kinda hopeful for these, lol. At least I haven't coastered one yet out of the 4-5 I've tried. Not see-through thankfully. https://www.amazon.ca/Verbatim-94755-DataLifePlus-Printable-Recordable/dp/B0001LS35W/ are what you're talking about? I've seen the AZO dye stuff on DVD-Rs which I have a set of but wasn't sure on the CD-Rs. Will have to burn through these ones I already have and try those next if so.
  20. What you want to look for are Verbatim, but NOT the Life Series. They're called DataLife Plus. They might also be listed as AZO dye. You will only find them online. You tried Amazon; was that Amazon.com in the US? I get my Verbatim DataLife Plus/AZO CD-R from Amazon.com in the US.
  21. Hello, I still use CD-R media for backups of retro DOS games on computers too old for DVDs. I've been trying to find media not made by CMC as I get way too many coasters from those. Tried a pack of maxell from Amazon, all CMC. Tried a pack of Verbatim from Amazon, all CMC. Tried a pack of TDK from ebay, all CMC (although these ones are at least not partially transparent like the other two). Are there any non-CMC disks left?
  22. That doesn't work either, still can't read it. It has an error every 11 sectors just like alcohol
  23. Have you try using IsoBuster, wonderful tool. This thing will see and try to extract files out of discs that are either damaged or when other programs can read them correctly, although its not free, but its worth every penny.
  24. well, I guess the disc is bad. tried alcohol 120 and it had errors, tried loading it into an emulator directly from the drive and it read the disc only enough to load the title screen. if it went to a gameplay demo or if i started a newgame it would just leave me at a black screen after the title screen. still, thanks for the assistance
  25. Probably false positives for PUP's, as I said. Just because the disc surface has been polished up doesn't mean the data itself isn't unreadable. And if you're getting other discs that read in ImgBurn and not this one disc, then it's pretty much the disc that won't read is the problem. You will know for sure if Alcohol doesn't work or if another drive doesn't.
  26. I'll have to try alcohol when i can, but my only concern is that when i downloaded the installation exe from the site, i checked it on virustotal and almost 30 different vendors flagged it as trojans, adware, malware, etc. And i doubt the diskdrive is the issue, it read all my other disks just fine. Legend of dragoon, metal gear solid, digimon world 1-3, rampage world tour, and more, all read. Dino crisis 2 and rampage world tour did have some moments of lag, they stuck at 0% for almost 10 minutes but after that, it was just fine and they read with no errors, it's just this one disc giving issues, but i wouldn't think the disk is bad, i had it fully resurfaced and it's still giving the issue
  27. I suggested the Alcohol as a final proof of concept. We know there's a problem reading this disc in ImgBurn. If it fails in a 2nd drive AND in Alcohol, then the problem is definitely the disc.
  28. That would need to have been because of a different issue (like analysing gaps between tracks or something). An unreadable disc is an unreadable disc - they only have access to the same commands (to 'read' a sector) as I do.
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