dbminter

Actually, you just told me what I needed to know from the logs. You're using the Life Series DVD+R DL from Verbatim, which means they're CMC Magnetics media. As you've found out, those are the worst quality discs out there. I was going to check the Log for a Disc ID that said CMC. If it did, I was going to recommend the DataLife Plus Series or AZO Verbatim DVD+R DL's. That's where I'd start first to troubleshoot your issue.

Can you find the log portion of the burn and copy and paste that here? You can access the Log under Help --> ImgBurn Logs. In the meantime, no, it is far from normal to take an hour to verify a dual layer disc. Unless you're verifying a BD-RE DL. That theoretically could. However, it's definitely not normal to take 10 minutes on layer 0 and then over an hour on layer 1. Also, what did you burn? A DVD+R DL? An 8x DVD+R DL will Verify in like 15 minutes total at the most. It may be possible to skip the Verify, but it's not recommended. In the meantime, you could try to Read that disc, however, I feel the same thing as what you experienced with the Verify will happen. However, if it did complete the Read within a reasonable amount of time, that is a good indication the burn was okay. Not as thorough as a Verify, though, but it's a good sign.

I remember the NS60, at least, would complete burns to Verbatim BD-RE DL, unlike the NS40 which would fail 9 times out of 10. However, I don't think the NS60 was very good at it because the BD-RE DL's I were using were yearly backup discs. I'd go after writing a backup 1 year to reusing the same disc a year later and the burn would fail to complete writing. Now, could be just terrible BD-RE DL's on Verbatim's part, but I doubt it. They were the kind you could only find in Japan, with the Japanese writing on the packaging.

I'd not heard of the WH16NS58. Last I had heard, LG had discontinued the WH16NS60, leaving only the NS40. Which was a shame as last I used the NS40, it did not properly write to DL BD media, whereas the NS60 did. I used to use the NS60 exclusively over the NS40 for that reason. I still have 2 NS60's in reserve. There aren't even any listed firmware updates for the WH16NS58 on LG's web site.

ASUS's BW-16D1HT is not an LG drive as far as I can tell. Hm, I hadn't checked on the WH16NS40 for a while on Amazon, but there are only a few resellers charging WAY too much for it when for the same price you can get ASUS's better drive. And something called the WH14NS40 is available from a few resellers at ridiculously worthless prices, too.

Well, unfortunately, it's getting worse. Pioneer pulled out of the optical disc burner market altogether, basically leaving only 2 big name players in the business: ASUS and LG. As for CMC, it could be worse. I sunk about $2,000 chasing bad burns with new discs, burners, and DVD video recorders before I stumbled across the existence of CMC somewhere else. So, I checked the discs that had worked fine for years, and, sure enough, OptoDisc changed manufacturers to CMC, which was the cause of the problem. Once I switched to the good Verbatim DVD-R from Mitsubishi (The MCC kind. NOT the CMC kind.), the problem resolved itself.

I would blame the cheap CMC discs. I 12:25:08 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D03-64) CMC Magnetics makes the worst optical disc media out there. I'm actually more amazed your burn COMPLETED and Verify PASSED with CMC media than just outright failing, failing to complete burn, or failing to complete Verify at the layer change. The only viable option for DVD+R DL is the Verbatim DataLife Plus/AZO ones. NOT the Life Series DVD+R DL you find in brick and mortar stores. Those are the CMC crap. The DataLife Plus/AZO are the MKM media made by Mitsubishi. And those you generally only find in online stores like Amazon.com.

You're using good discs, so it's not a case of trash media. Your drive appears to be an external slim model unit. Slim models are generally terrible writers. I only use them for read purposes. That could be the reason here. Probably the only solution going forward is to use a different drive. It's either because it's a terrible writer as a slim model unit or that drive doesn't like the MCC discs you're using. That second part MAY be fixed by a firmware update if one is available for that drive. However, manufacturers generally tend not to release firmware updates for external drives. Why should they when they can force you to buy a NEW one to get the firmware preinstalled? I would simply forgo using a slim model USB drive as a writer. I use an internal half height drive in a USB enclosure in my setup.

As far as I know, there are only 2 big names still in the Blu-Ray optical drive production business: ASUS and LG. Just last week, Pioneer announced they were ceasing production of Blu-Ray optical drives. I've avoided Pioneers for over a decade now. While at one time they made the best DVD and BD drives out there, beginning over 10 years ago, Pioneer borked the firmware for 8x DVD+RW so they don't write correctly anymore. Despite my REPEATED e-mails to tech support telling them what they needed to do, they IGNORED it until the 2213. Now, the 2213 fixed that problem, BUT introduced NEW ones with the last 2213 firmware! 8x DVD+RW writes at 6x max. 8x DVD+R DL only writes at 2.4x max.

I would not recommend the LG WH16NS40. I never burned any BD-R DL in it but BD-RE DL would fail 90% of the time. The NS60 was slightly better at BD-RE DL, but it wasn't anywhere near acceptable. Others also posted problems with DL media in the NS40 and 60. I've an ASUS, but I've never burned any BD-RE DL in it, let alone any BD-R DL. In fact, I've never burned any BD-R DL at all, so I have no experience with them. However, it was like a decade ago I last had an NS40, so it's possible firmware updates might have fixed the problems from back then.

It would be on the product's packaging. There should have been a picture of the product in its packaging on Amazon. The label on the product's packaging would say Life Series or DataLife Plus Series or AZO.

First thing I'd target is this: I 20:52:13 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.) You most likely are using Verbatim Life Series CD-R you found in a brick and mortar store? Those are made by CMC Magnetics, which are the worst optical discs out there. About 50% of the problems on this board are caused by CMC media and people switching away from them to high quality media generally find the issues go away. It's not 100% guaranteed, but it's where I'd start. What you want are Verbatim DataLife Plus (NOT Life Series.) CD-R, sometimes referred to as AZO. You generally only find those in online stores like Amazon.com.

I guess you meant 24,220,000,000?

I believe 1.05 was what I last tested with. I don't know if I burned at 16x or not. I used the maximum burning speeds. I know the LG and ASUS even though they say they burn at 16x BD-R only actually burn at 12x max to BD-R. Oh, I was not aware Pioneer had stopped making drives. That explains why the no new firmware updates in like 2 years. I use the ASUS BW-16D1HT half height internal BD burner in a VanTech USB enclosure. Unfortunately, LG's WH16NS40 is the only other good option and it has issues of its own. The NS60 used to be better than the NS40 but 1.) LG no longer makes it and 2.) the NS40 has issues of its own.

Well, if you're using the DataLife Plus ones and Verbatim doesn't make non-DataLife Plus inkjet printable BD-R, then it must be the drive. However, you said you bought these May of last year? That was back when they were quality blue and white branded surface. I tried the 2213 briefly. It had no problems with the blue and white branded discs I threw at it, but Pioneer is known to bork their firmware. So, it's possible they released a firmware update since then that broke Verbatim BD-R. I returned my 2213 for other issues. 8x DVD+R DL that only write at 2.4x. 8x DVD+RW that only write at 6x. And Pioneer seems to have ceased development on their firmware, so if it is an issue requiring a firmware update, no apparent fix is probably forthcoming. Pioneer has made terrible drives for over a decade now. For over a decade, they had issues where 8x DVD+RW were not written correctly. This WAS initially fixed by the 2213, but it had other issues. And still does, like reborking the 8x DVD+RW firmware so it only writes at 6x.