loss of drag and drop in 2.5.0.0

[pj0tr]

Windows 7 Ultimate (x86) (UAC is ON) (Upgrade from Vista Ultimate with imgburn version 2.4.1)

Imgburn drag and drop in buil mode worked fine before upgrade to 2.5.0.0

 

Upgrade to Imgburn 2.5.0.0 ->

In build mode drag and drop does not function any more.

 

I read topic "loss of drag and drop in 2.4.0.0" and tried the suggestions:

First rebooted, retried drag and drop: not allowed (cursor changes to no entry sign)

Uninstall imgburn, reinstall imgburn, still no luck.

Restore Defaults option also does not work.

Setting windows xp compatibility option does not help, setting "run this program as an administrator" does not help

I copied the executable of version 2.4.1: still no luck, same behaviour.

 

Used exe 2.5.0 again.

Renamed Imgburn.exe -> ImgBurnSetup.exe (trick to get around UAC).

Drag and drop works fine!

Conclusion: UAC prevents drag and drop.

 

Any tips about getting it to work while UAC is on ?

 

Kind regards

[mmalves]

That happens when ImgBurn and the program you're dragging files/folders from are running at different levels. Either run both as a normal user or both as Administrator and it should work.

[pj0tr]

That happens when ImgBurn and the program you're dragging files/folders from are running at different levels. Either run both as a normal user or both as Administrator and it should work.

 

Tried running both as normal user: works fine

 

It dit not work before because I had enabled the SPTI for all users.

If you start imgburn with SPTI on it asks for administrator approval. After that there are indeed two levels because explorer runs as the normal user while Imgburn runs with elevated rights.

 

Solution will be to not us SPTI while having UAC on?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

So you're running with a 'Standard' user and UAC enabled?

 

I've never tried that combo, I only have the one user on my machine and its type is set to 'Administrator' - as it is by default.

 

I'm not aware of any issue with D+D when using an admin account and UAC enabled.

 

Do you not trust yourself enough with the default setup?

[pj0tr]

So you're running with a 'Standard' user and UAC enabled?

 

I've never tried that combo, I only have the one user on my machine and its type is set to 'Administrator' - as it is by default.

 

I'm not aware of any issue with D+D when using an admin account and UAC enabled.

 

Do you not trust yourself enough with the default setup?

 

This is actually a default setup and I'm an administrator on the pc.

(I trust myself well enough after lots of years working as an network administrator ;-)

In windows 7 with UAC you get an extra screen to confirm that the program is changing some hardware addressing (SPTI I think). You have to press the confirm button which elevates the standard admin user rights to elevated admin user rights.

Windows 7 handles the hardware addressing in a different way then Vista maybe?

 

I'm pretty shure the problem starts if you install the SPTI for all users. In the default setup SPTI is not used and everything works just fine.

I know i do not need it to burn but I just wanted to give it a go ;-)

[LIGHTNING UK!]

oh ok so there's no UAC prompt if you don't enable that 'spti for all users' bit (which is of course just the 'allocatecdroms' group policy option) ?

 

Leave it 'off' then I guess and just stick to an admin user with UAC enabled.

[pj0tr]

oh ok so there's no UAC prompt if you don't enable that 'spti for all users' bit (which is of course just the 'allocatecdroms' group policy option) ?

 

Leave it 'off' then I guess and just stick to an admin user with UAC enabled.

 

hmm, I read an item about SPTI and decided to try that: http://www.ste-home.de/cdrtools-spti/index-en.html

some quotes:

In meantime this is used by many burning applications and preferred by Microsoft

 

Advantages:

Cdrtools run without ASPI installation.

Alternative accessability, also with installed ASPI.

Possibly devices are supported, which are not recogniced by ASPI but available under Windows.

Device can be opened non SHARED, then simultaneous access (and disturbance) by other programs is not possible.

 

Disadvantages:

Administrator privileges necessary, can possibly be worked around, see EAC-FAQ (Q: I use Windows NT/2000, but EAC seems to have problems to store the options or get any SCSI response)

 

So this is not the same as the 'allocatecdroms' group policy option, that gives availability to the data on in a drive to locally logged on users: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc957388.aspx

 

But someone with access to the source code will know what the option in the setup actually does ;-)

 

At least all is working fine again as this my prefered burning software, haven't used nero or the like for more than 1,5 years!

 

kind regards and thanks for helping

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Yes, 'Restrict CD-ROM access to locally logged-on user only' and 'allocatecdroms' are the same thing.

 

All the setup does is manipulate that 1 registry key/value.

 

The alternative is to use one of the other I/O interfaces... your best bet is the ElbyCDIO one.