thghgv Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 I have been using ImgBurn for a few months and have noticed some things due to its usage... 1. When using IB for DL projects I have rarely been able to get the layer break to happen correctly. My previous methods using DVDrebuilder with MKISOFS writing the images to HD or simply using an ISO tool like Magic ISO to create the image seems to hold true to the pre-established layer break. It appears that when IB "prepares" an image it does its own calculations as to the how, what, & where pertaining to layer break without regard to pre-established specs. 2. When using IB in conjunction with DVDrebuilder Pro on DL projects it appears that DVDRrebuilder will arbitrarily use IB for writing the ISO image (instead of MKISOFS) and there is no tweak (that I have been able to find anyway) to make rebuilder NOT use IB for ISO imaging. Reason for this being that IB will invariably hang when being used in the DVDrebuilder process for writing the image to HD. I should point out that I have seen this happen consistently with Rebuilder in batch mode and in "single job" mode. The Rebuilder process hangs after calling IB to write the image to hard disk. The "hang" occurs invariably ~33% thru IB's "preparing image" phaze. No discernible errors have been logged that point to a cause. If there is something im missing here please illuminate, but since my previous methods were yielding near perfect results I see no reason to continue using IB. I would like to be able to leave it on the system for occasional use but since REbuilder now has a "auto-sense" for it being installed and there not being any way to DIS-able Rebuilders' use of IB for image writing I have no choice but to un-install IB altogether. Is there something Im missing here? Please advise...
thghgv Posted December 19, 2009 Author Posted December 19, 2009 here is a log snippet from a typical hung session wherein I had to manually shutdown the whole rebuilder/IB process due to a hung IB image write. ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log ; Friday, 18 December 2009, 20:08:12 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 20:00:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 20:00:49 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 20:00:49 Total Physical Memory: 2,881,508 KB - Available: 2,300,672 KB W 20:00:49 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 20:00:49 Initialising SPTI... I 20:00:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:00:50 Found 2 DVD±RWs! I 20:00:50 Operation Started! I 20:00:50 Building Image Tree... I 20:00:50 Checking Directory Depth... I 20:00:50 Calculating Totals... I 20:00:50 Preparing Image... E 20:08:11 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:07:21 I 20:08:11 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:08:11 Closing Down... I 20:08:12 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:08:12 ImgBurn closed!
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 What does the actual progress window say? It should tell you the current task.
thghgv Posted December 19, 2009 Author Posted December 19, 2009 What does the actual progress window say? It should tell you the current task. Assuming you are referring to IB? The window that IB hangs in is the one that is created when it "prepares image". The exact verbiage is of the last entry is "preparing image", with IB progress bar stuck at 33% complete for the image write phase. There is more than one IB window generated as it is being called from Rebuilder.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Yes, I'm talking about IB. This is the IB support forum after all No, there should be an actual box on the screen (NOT the log window) that says current task, current folder... something like that anyway. Maybe just a screenshot of the whole thing would be easier.
thghgv Posted December 19, 2009 Author Posted December 19, 2009 Yes, I'm talking about IB. This is the IB support forum after all No, there should be an actual box on the screen (NOT the log window) that says current task, current folder... something like that anyway. Maybe just a screenshot of the whole thing would be easier. Your wish is granted. see attached. The upper right progress bar window is immovable.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Ok so just pick your layer break position from the list and then it'll continue.
thghgv Posted December 19, 2009 Author Posted December 19, 2009 Ok so just pick your layer break position from the list and then it'll continue. Well, that's kind of the problem. IB, pretty much every time, messes up layer breaks (they arent exactly where I have placed them when I author the files) from pre-determined specs because it relys on user input to make the choice. This makes the breaks NOT smooth like when previewed in authoring. This makes also makes the build process NO longer "batch" (i.e. automated). I need layer breaks done correctly and not have to intervene every time IB comes to a layer break decision so that the automated process is carried thru to completion without intervention. When running IB standalone I ALWAYS choose the "excellent" or "best" (who wouldn't) settings, but I take some time and deliberation when choosing the positions for breaks in authoring only to have IB ignore them and sort of do it's own thing so to speak which usually isn't proper. Is there a way to get IB to use the pre-determined layer break data from the original rendered files like decrypter/ MKISOFS does, (decryptor or MKISOFS doesn't ask for layer breaks they are just done and 99% of the time done, not to offend, better than Imgburn), or just have IB AUTOMATICALLY choose the BEST break available, or better yet, use the predetermined layer break and not hang there waiting for input? If not, is there a tweak for IB (or possibly rebuilder) to simply have IB opt OUT of the process and return the Image write task BACK to MKISOFS?? Is there no other way to opt IB OUT of the Rebuilder process other than un-installing it from the system? I'd like to be able to keep IB around for stand alone, NON Dual Layer projects but...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 There's nothing in IFO/VOB/BUP files to say (100% certain) 'this is where I want the layer break'. You can take a best guess based on flags in the IFO (which is becoming harder and harder to do as this same 'SPLIP' flag is used for other things) but the layer break (LB) is a physical thing on the media and therefore you can only get exact LB information from an actual disc (or a descriptor file of some sort - MDS / DVD file etc). If you think you've authored your files with the LB already defined, it'll be pretty obvious going from the options IB presents you with. (i.e. you'd pick the blue star in the screenshot above). You can't really do it 'better' than ImgBurn as it presents you with all the valid choices, just pick one (you should know roughly where to look if you've 'carefully' picked it out during authoring) and be done with it. If by 'decryptor' you meant my old tool (DVD Decrypter) - it was stupid compared to ImgBurn. Not only that, it could only burn image files.
thghgv Posted December 20, 2009 Author Posted December 20, 2009 So is there a way to get IB, when being used in batch mode with REbuilder, to just shut-up and pick the best LB and go on its merry? It totally screws up the whole "BATCH" concept if one has to baby-sit IB by having to pick a LB, by hand, for each item in the DVD-RB pro job list.
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