Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I just upgraded my old Pioneer 111D to a S18L (218L) SATA. But when burning images with IMGburn it wont go above 8x and it takes 9m 30s to burn a DVD. If i use the built in image burner in W7 it only takes 5 minutes?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I have the same burner and no such issues here. Can you post a log of one of those burns? Main Menu -> Help -> ImgBurn Logs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) I just tried setting speed to MAX and here is what I got using Verbatim 16x discs: I 19:20:11 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 19:20:11 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 19:20:11 Total Physical Memory: 7.339.160 KB - Available: 5.638.784 KB W 19:20:11 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 19:20:11 Initialising SPTI... I 19:20:11 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:20:11 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM! I 19:20:53 Operation Started! I 19:20:53 Source File: D:\Th\th.img I 19:20:53 Source File Sectors: 2.240.276 (MODE1/2048) I 19:20:53 Source File Size: 4.588.085.248 bytes I 19:20:53 Source File Volume Identifier: TH I 19:20:53 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4AFD922B00710FDA I 19:20:53 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING I 19:20:53 Source File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs I 19:20:53 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02) I 19:20:53 Destination Device: [0:2:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (E:) (ATAPI) I 19:20:53 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 19:20:53 Destination Media Sectors: 2.298.496 I 19:20:53 Write Mode: DVD I 19:20:53 Write Type: DAO I 19:20:53 Write Speed: MAX I 19:20:53 Link Size: Auto I 19:20:53 Lock Volume: Yes I 19:20:53 Test Mode: No I 19:20:53 OPC: No I 19:20:53 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:20:54 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 19:20:55 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 19:20:56 Writing LeadIn... I 19:21:29 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2240275) I 19:21:29 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2240275) I 19:26:42 Synchronising Cache... I 19:27:03 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:27:03 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Per\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_19-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg I 19:27:03 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:27:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:09 I 19:27:03 Average Write Rate: 14.314 KB/s (10.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 20.651 KB/s (14.9x) Edited February 5, 2010 by Toranaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Could SPTD be the cause? W 19:20:11 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Could you upload this file C:\Users\Per\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_19-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg or post a screen shot of the values when you load the file in DVDInfoPro or similar program? This is what I got from a burn at max/20x speed with the same media. I 21:36:18 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.4 Beta started! I 21:36:18 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 21:36:18 Total Physical Memory: 8 387 704 KB - Available: 6 499 292 KB I 21:36:18 Initialising SPTI... I 21:36:18 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:36:18 -> Drive 1 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115D 1.22 (E:) (ATA) I 21:36:18 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-118L 1.02 (F:) (ATA) I 21:36:23 -> Drive 3 - Info: ATAPI iHAS120 6 7L0M (O:) (SATA) I 21:36:24 -> Drive 4 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (R:) (SCSI) I 21:36:24 -> Drive 5 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S 1.03 (N:) (SATA) I 21:36:24 -> Drive 6 - Info: PHANTOM DVD-RAM DVDR V10 88.0 (Q:) (SCSI) I 21:36:24 -> Drive 7 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.09 (P:) (USB) I 21:36:24 Found 1 DVD±RW, 4 DVD±RW/RAMs, 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! I 21:37:02 Operation Started! I 21:37:02 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 21:37:02 Source File Sectors: 2 298 496 (MODE1/2048) I 21:37:02 Source File Size: 4 707 319 808 bytes I 21:37:02 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 21:37:02 Source File File System(s): None I 21:37:02 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-118L 1.02 (F:) (ATA) I 21:37:02 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 21:37:02 Destination Media Sectors: 2 298 496 I 21:37:02 Write Mode: DVD I 21:37:02 Write Type: DAO I 21:37:02 Write Speed: 20x I 21:37:02 Link Size: Auto I 21:37:02 Lock Volume: Yes I 21:37:02 Test Mode: No I 21:37:02 OPC: Yes I 21:37:02 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:37:03 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 27 700 KB/s (20x) I 21:37:03 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 21:37:24 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:37:24 Writing LeadIn... I 21:37:39 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:37:39 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:41:55 Synchronising Cache... I 21:42:14 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:42:14 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Cynthia\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-118L_1.02_DEN-11-DECEMBER-2009_21-37_MCC_03RG20_20x.ibg I 21:42:14 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:42:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:11 I 21:42:14 Average Write Rate: 18 027 KB/s (13.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 26 563 KB/s (19.2x) I 21:42:14 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 21:42:33 Device Ready! I 21:42:33 Operation Started! I 21:42:33 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-118L 1.02 (F:) (ATA) I 21:42:33 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 21:42:33 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 21:42:33 Image File Sectors: 2 298 496 (MODE1/2048) I 21:42:33 Image File Size: 4 707 319 808 bytes I 21:42:33 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 21:42:33 Image File File System(s): None I 21:42:33 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:42:34 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:42:34 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:47:32 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:47:32 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Cynthia\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-118L_1.02_DEN-11-DECEMBER-2009_21-37_MCC_03RG20_20x.ibg I 21:47:32 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:47:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:54 I 21:47:32 Average Verify Rate: 15 689 KB/s (11.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22 791 KB/s (16.5x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 hmmm just tried a Verbatim with photo printable cover but with same media code and it was faster. Is this speed normal when 16X selected? I 19:39:01 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 19:39:01 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 19:39:01 Total Physical Memory: 7.339.160 KB - Available: 5.669.156 KB W 19:39:01 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 19:39:01 Initialising SPTI... I 19:39:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:39:01 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM! I 19:42:13 Operation Started! I 19:42:13 Source File: D:\TT.iso I 19:42:13 Source File Sectors: 2.060.966 (MODE1/2048) I 19:42:13 Source File Size: 4.220.858.368 bytes I 19:42:13 Source File Volume Identifier: TT I 19:42:13 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4974D06300000000 I 19:42:13 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING I 19:42:13 Source File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs I 19:42:13 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02) I 19:42:13 Destination Device: [0:2:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (E:) (ATAPI) I 19:42:13 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 19:42:13 Destination Media Sectors: 2.298.496 I 19:42:13 Write Mode: DVD I 19:42:13 Write Type: DAO I 19:42:13 Write Speed: 16x I 19:42:13 Link Size: Auto I 19:42:13 Lock Volume: Yes I 19:42:13 Test Mode: No I 19:42:13 OPC: No I 19:42:13 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:42:14 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 19:42:15 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 19:42:15 Writing LeadIn... I 19:42:47 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2060965) I 19:42:47 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2060965) I 19:47:33 Synchronising Cache... I 19:47:52 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:47:52 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Per\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_19-42_MCC_03RG20_16x.ibg I 19:47:52 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:47:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:39 I 19:47:52 Average Write Rate: 14.412 KB/s (10.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21.293 KB/s (15.4x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Normally the highest speed is only reached at the end of the burn on a full disc burn. Your image is a bit small to have to use the whole discs capacity. I suggest you use the Discovery mode and select all sectors and do a burn at max speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Which controller is that drive actually attached to? You may have more than one on your motherbaord so you need to find which port is controlled by which chipset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Just tried the discovery mode (allthough I dont know what it does) at max. I 21:20:35 Operation Started! I 21:20:35 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 21:20:35 Source File Sectors: 2.298.496 (MODE1/2048) I 21:20:35 Source File Size: 4.707.319.808 bytes I 21:20:35 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 21:20:35 Source File File System(s): None I 21:20:35 Destination Device: [0:2:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (E:) (ATAPI) I 21:20:35 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 21:20:35 Destination Media Sectors: 2.298.496 I 21:20:35 Write Mode: DVD I 21:20:35 Write Type: DAO I 21:20:35 Write Speed: MAX I 21:20:35 Link Size: Auto I 21:20:35 Lock Volume: Yes I 21:20:35 Test Mode: No I 21:20:35 OPC: No I 21:20:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:20:35 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 21:20:36 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:20:36 Writing LeadIn... I 21:21:13 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:21:13 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 21:26:33 Synchronising Cache... I 21:26:53 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:26:53 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Per\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_21-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg I 21:26:53 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:26:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:18 I 21:26:53 Average Write Rate: 14.365 KB/s (10.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 20.586 KB/s (14.9x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Which controller is that drive actually attached to? You may have more than one on your motherbaord so you need to find which port is controlled by which chipset. My mobo is Asus P5B Deluxe and the drive is in Sata port 5 out of the 6 Intel ports. I think it is ICH9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Here is the file from the discovery burn. PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_21-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 I just tried setting speed to MAX and here is what I got using Verbatim 16x discs: I 19:20:11 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 19:20:11 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 19:20:11 Total Physical Memory: 7.339.160 KB - Available: 5.638.784 KB W 19:20:11 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 19:20:11 Initialising SPTI... I 19:20:11 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:20:11 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM! I 19:20:53 Operation Started! I 19:20:53 Source File: D:\Th\th.img I 19:20:53 Source File Sectors: 2.240.276 (MODE1/2048) I 19:20:53 Source File Size: 4.588.085.248 bytes I 19:20:53 Source File Volume Identifier: TH I 19:20:53 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4AFD922B00710FDA I 19:20:53 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING I 19:20:53 Source File Implementation Identifier: mkisofs I 19:20:53 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02) I 19:20:53 Destination Device: [0:2:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-218L 1.02 (E:) (ATAPI) I 19:20:53 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x; 20x) I 19:20:53 Destination Media Sectors: 2.298.496 I 19:20:53 Write Mode: DVD I 19:20:53 Write Type: DAO I 19:20:53 Write Speed: MAX I 19:20:53 Link Size: Auto I 19:20:53 Lock Volume: Yes I 19:20:53 Test Mode: No I 19:20:53 OPC: No I 19:20:53 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:20:54 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 19:20:55 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 19:20:56 Writing LeadIn... I 19:21:29 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2240275) I 19:21:29 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2240275) I 19:26:42 Synchronising Cache... I 19:27:03 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:27:03 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Per\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_19-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg I 19:27:03 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:27:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:09 I 19:27:03 Average Write Rate: 14.314 KB/s (10.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 20.651 KB/s (14.9x) PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-218L_1.02_5-FEBRUAR-2010_19-20_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Using your Discovery mode IBG... For whatever reason, the drive is dropping down a gear when it reaches approx 2GB/15x. If you have a drive that supports it, try doing a PIPO/Disc Quality scan of that disc using DVDInfoPro/CDSpeed/Opti Drive Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 I installed DVDinfopro and tried to run a scan, but it only spins up and then stops? Isn't there suposed to be some graphs or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I installed DVDinfopro and tried to run a scan, but it only spins up and then stops? Isn't there suposed to be some graphs or something? I have the same issue with my Pioneer 118. I guess DVDInfoPro rejects to use such a drive as scanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 Are there any BIOS/mobo/windows settings I should check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Could be worth a try to uninstall this driver + program. I've only seen issues in the verify part - but who knows? W 19:20:11 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toranaga Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 Could be worth a try to uninstall this driver + program. I've only seen issues in the verify part - but who knows? W 19:20:11 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. Well that is needed for Daemon Tools i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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