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Hi, everyone. New user here. So, I'm following along in the guide about burning onto a DL DVD, and I'm at the step where you pick your layer break position, where the guide says "The coloured stars will give you an idea of the best place (technically speaking) for the layer break position..." But none of the stars in my list are colored! Does this mean I do not need a layer break in my DVD? I would assume so, seeing as the content to be burned is over 5GB. What other guidelines or tips should I follow for picking a layer break position?

 

Suggestions?

Edited by dimelives1
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Are they just not grey? If so, pick one that is around 50/50 and where the switch is natural (pre play it and find the best layer break). If your stand alone player supports it, select seamless and you won't notice the layer break.

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Are they just not grey? If so, pick one that is around 50/50 and where the switch is natural (pre play it and find the best layer break). If your stand alone player supports it, select seamless and you won't notice the layer break.

Sorry, I should've specified. They're ALL grey. But, any within the 50/50 specification should be pretty good? What about padding? Is a higher or lower number better to pick from? And how exactly do I confirm my choice of layer break? Just by picking the spot I want in the preview window then clicking OK with the line selected?

 

Thanks!

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Hight light the row you want to use as layer break and click OK.

 

If the layer break is in the DVD Video part (inside of the VOB files) - it's a grey star rating.

 

Padding low or high? Theoretically a high number of padding sectors should take the laser head longer time to jump over. In practice I can't say I've seen that happen.

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Hight light the row you want to use as layer break and click OK.

 

If the layer break is in the DVD Video part (inside of the VOB files) - it's a grey star rating.

 

Padding low or high? Theoretically a high number of padding sectors should take the laser head longer time to jump over. In practice I can't say I've seen that happen.

Do the adjustments I do within the preview window have any effect on where the layer break is? Or do I not have that much control here? The guide says "Within the preview window, Cell 1 is what would play just BEFORE the layer transition, Cell 2 is what would be played straight AFTER it. You can use the < and > buttons to 'step' through the movie frame by frame. Alternatively, just drag the slider!" That makes it sound as if changing the numbers in the little cell box would specify where the break will be. Is this so? As it is, the lowest cell number I can navigate to among the options given is 10... not 1 or 2. Can you explain this?

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Padding is before the VIDEO_TS files even start, it makes no difference to the time it takes for the laser to switch between L0 and L1.

 

You should be using the Preview feature to find the best cell - i.e. where you wouldn't notice the jump so much - like at a scene change. (making it seamless makes this null and void)

 

When asking a question like this, it helps if we can see what you're seeing... so please provide a screenshot.

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Oh, nevermind. I see now where it says either a "1" or "2" (up in the window header, not in the cell count). So I just need to choose whichever cell I prefer from the choices given, yes? Like, I can't choose myself a specific FRAME where I want the break to occur by using the preview window. Correct?

Edited by dimelives1
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Padding is before the VIDEO_TS files even start, it makes no difference to the time it takes for the laser to switch between L0 and L1.

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - LBA: 99545 - 99549

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - LBA: 99566 - 99570

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_0.IFO - LBA: 99571 - 99627

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_0.VOB - LBA: 99628 - 141766

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_1.VOB - LBA: 141767 - 666053

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_2.VOB - LBA: 666054 - 1190340

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_3.VOB - LBA: 1190341 - 1714627

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_4.VOB - LBA: 1714628 - 2238914

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_5.VOB - LBA: 2238915 - 2763201

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_6.VOB - LBA: 2763202 - 3287488

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_7.VOB - LBA: 3287489 - 3644608

D 04:02:17 File System - File: VTS_01_0.BUP - LBA: 3644609 - 3644665

So very true. I'm a :dunce:

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Oh, nevermind. I see now where it says either a "1" or "2" (up in the window header, not in the cell count). So I just need to choose whichever cell I prefer from the choices given, yes? Like, I can't choose myself a specific FRAME where I want the break to occur by using the preview window. Correct?

In the video area, you can only select cells as the layer break divider with ImgBurn.

 

If you want a specific frame you need to split the current cell into two cells and the frame you want to use as layer break is to be the split point. You can't do this in ImgBurn so you need an external tool first, like VobBlanker.

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Eh, that's a bit more work than the situation demands. But, to my point, using JUST ImgBurn, you can't adjust the exact frame of the layer break in the preview window, correct? You can just pick from the choices your given.

 

And what exactly do the %'s mean? Is that just the amount of material that will be on either layer of the disc? How important is it for me to pick one of the 50/50% ones?

 

Thanks! Sorry for all the questions >_<

Edited by dimelives1
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Eh, that's a bit more work than the situation demands. But, to my point, using JUST ImgBurn, you can't adjust the exact frame of the layer break in the preview window, correct? You can just pick from the choices your given.

 

And what exactly do the %'s mean?

 

Thanks! Sorry for all the questions >_<

No. You can only select cells, not frames. So your only options for the layer break is the star rated rows.

 

50/50 or a/b

 

a=50% on layer 0

b=50% on layer 1

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