AT350Kobra Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) I'm using Verbatim DVD+R DL disc from Singapore. IMGburn will only set my layer break correctly about 30-40% of the time. I clearly have layer break set to user specific: 1913760. When I start a burn the log will say it successfully set the L0 capacity to 1913759 and L1 will be from 1913760-3xxxxxx. But when the disc finish burning it'll say the L0 has been set at 208xxxx (54%) I've tried with or without the .dvd file and it makes no difference, layer break seems to keep getting set at 208xxxx even though the log is stating otherwise. I know it can be the media or burner because when I used the free trial of CloneCD I didn't get a single coaster. Any help would be appreciated, I'm going through alot of disc which are not cheap. Thanks. Edit also the disc are 2.4x and I have tried letting the .dvd file handle the layer break instead of suing user specific but I get the same results. Edited March 29, 2010 by AT350Kobra
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Your post is pretty useless without a log to back up what you're saying. (and probably all the text from the disc info panel on the right when you're in Read mode) ImgBurn sets the LB position and then queries the drive to see where it's set to. If there was a problem, you'd know about it instantly. Oh and this stuff is all down to the drive, there's only 1 command you can use to set the position so it's impossible for apps to do it differently.
AT350Kobra Posted March 29, 2010 Author Posted March 29, 2010 Your post is pretty useless without a log to back up what you're saying. (and probably all the text from the disc info panel on the right when you're in Read mode) ImgBurn sets the LB position and then queries the drive to see where it's set to. If there was a problem, you'd know about it instantly. Oh and this stuff is all down to the drive, there's only 1 command you can use to set the position so it's impossible for apps to do it differently. I'll do another burn and post the log.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 You can get at previous logs via the Help menu.
AT350Kobra Posted March 29, 2010 Author Posted March 29, 2010 You can get at previous logs via the Help menu. Ah I wish I would have waited a sec before I started that burn. This is my blank disc data: hp DVD RW AD-7586H KH03 (SATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Empty State of Last Session: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 4,173,824 Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF) Next Writable Address: 0 Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x DVD±R DL Boundary Information: L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 Changeable: Yes Physical Format Information (ADIP - L0): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (ADIP - L1): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Performance (Write Speed): Descriptor 1... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF) -> RS: 11,080 KB/s (8x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) Descriptor 2... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF) -> RS: 11,080 KB/s (8x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) This is my last log: ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 - Log ; Monday, 29 March 2010, 12:28:48 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 10:34:43 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started! I 10:34:43 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 10:34:43 Total Physical Memory: 2,879,688 KB - Available: 1,393,116 KB W 10:34:43 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 10:34:43 Initialising SPTI... I 10:34:43 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 10:34:43 -> Drive 1 - Info: hp DVD RW AD-7586H KH03 (F:) (SATA) I 10:34:43 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 10:35:37 Operation Started! I 10:35:37 Source File: C:\Users\Andre\Downloads\GrabIt Downloads\Virtua Fighter 5 XBOX360 ACE\ace-vf5.iso I 10:35:37 Source File Sectors: 3,825,924 (MODE1/2048) I 10:35:37 Source File Size: 7,835,492,352 bytes I 10:35:37 Source File Volume Identifier: XGD2DVD_NTSC I 10:35:37 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 34672923 I 10:35:37 Source File Implementation Identifier: Sonic Scenarist 3.1 I 10:35:37 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 10:35:37 Destination Device: [1:0:0] hp DVD RW AD-7586H KH03 (F:) (SATA) I 10:35:37 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 10:35:37 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 10:35:38 Write Mode: DVD I 10:35:38 Write Type: DAO I 10:35:38 Write Speed: 2.4x I 10:35:38 Link Size: Auto I 10:35:38 Lock Volume: Yes I 10:35:38 Test Mode: No I 10:35:38 OPC: No I 10:35:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 10:35:40 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) I 10:35:40 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760 I 10:35:40 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 10:35:41 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 10:35:42 Writing LeadIn... I 10:36:41 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3825923) I 10:36:41 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3825923) I 10:36:41 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759) I 10:56:31 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3825923) I 11:16:21 Synchronising Cache... I 11:16:24 Closing Track... I 11:16:25 Finalising Disc... I 11:17:39 Exporting Graph Data... I 11:17:39 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Andre\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7586H_KH03_MONDAY-MARCH-29-2010_10-35_AM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg I 11:17:39 Export Successfully Completed! I 11:17:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:42:01 I 11:17:39 Average Write Rate: 3,215 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,359 KB/s (2.4x) I 12:28:48 Close Request Acknowledged I 12:28:48 Closing Down... I 12:28:48 Shutting down SPTI... I 12:28:48 ImgBurn closed!
AT350Kobra Posted March 29, 2010 Author Posted March 29, 2010 And this is what the DVD says hp DVD RW AD-7586H KH03 (SATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 3,825,936 Size: 7,835,516,928 bytes Time: 850:14:36 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x DVD±R DL Boundary Information: L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 Changeable: No TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 3825935) -> LeadOut (LBA: 3825936) Disc Control Blocks Information: hp DVD RW A D-7586H Physical Format Information (ADIP - L0): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (ADIP - L1): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,579,023 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1): Disc ID: MKM-001-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,579,023 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Layer Information: Layer 0 Sectors: 2,086,912 (54.55%) Layer 1 Sectors: 1,739,024 (45.45%) Performance (Write Speed): Descriptor 1... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 3825935 (0x003A610F) -> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) Descriptor 2... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 3825935 (0x003A610F) -> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 I 10:35:40 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760 Ok so that's the number the program has sent to the drive. I 10:35:40 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! and that tells me/us that the drive has: 1. Accepted the command to set the layer break. 2. Reported that very same value back to me when I've queried the drive to find out what the layer break position is set to. If the 'set' value was different to the 'queried' value you'd get a 'layerbreak miscompare' log entry - and you haven't. However, I have noticed that your drive doesn't appear to modify the LB position at the moment I tell it to (the times in those two log entries are identical) - which means it's doing it (or should be doing it) during finalisation. If you're saying CloneCD set the LB ok, try using the Incremental write type (adjust it in the settings). Going by the distinct lack of hits on Google for 'AD-7586H' I can only assume your PC is one of only a few in the world to have that exact drive! Your chances of finding firmware updates for it are therefore practically zero - and that's the only thing I could suggest doing as a real fix.
AT350Kobra Posted March 31, 2010 Author Posted March 31, 2010 Yes the drive I have is exclusive to HP computers. I appreciate the help and fast responses. Incremental write only had a 50% success rate for me so I just had to dish out the cash for CloneCd unfortunately.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 There's nothing it can do (on DVD) that I can't and the options to emulate its exact commands probably already exist. You'd have been better off buying a new drive that works properly.
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