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I am brand new to this so I hope this does not turn out to be a silly little error. I want to copy my WII games and bought this program because I was told it was good. Also purchased an LG GDR-8163B drive that is hooked to my computer with a Cable Unlimited USB 2.0 to IDE & STAT Cable. The disc is being recognized and actually tries to start the read process, but then faults out on some type of read error. (Log Attached).What is the problem?? Like I said I do not know enough about all of this to figure it out..I have tried three times with the same results

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; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log

; Wednesday, 09 February 2011, 10:22:01

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I 10:21:24 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 10:21:24 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 10:21:24 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 153,580 KB

W 10:21:24 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 10:21:24 Initialising SPTI...

I 10:21:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 10:21:24 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 10:21:24 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 10:22:01 Close Request Acknowledged

I 10:22:01 Closing Down...

I 10:22:01 Shutting down SPTI...

I 10:22:01 ImgBurn closed!

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; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log

; Wednesday, 09 February 2011, 10:13:52

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I 09:55:42 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 09:55:42 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 09:55:42 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 208,400 KB

W 09:55:42 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 09:55:42 Initialising SPTI...

I 09:55:42 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 09:55:42 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 09:55:42 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 10:13:52 Close Request Acknowledged

I 10:13:52 Closing Down...

I 10:13:52 Shutting down SPTI...

I 10:13:52 ImgBurn closed!

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; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log

; Wednesday, 09 February 2011, 09:53:06

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I 09:46:33 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 09:46:33 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 09:46:33 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 206,788 KB

W 09:46:34 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 09:46:34 Initialising SPTI...

I 09:46:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 09:46:34 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 09:46:34 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 09:46:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 09:50:21 Operation Started!

I 09:50:21 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 09:50:22 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM

I 09:50:22 Source Media Sectors: 2,294,912 (Track Path: PTP)

I 09:50:22 Source Media Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes

I 09:50:22 Source Media File System(s): None

I 09:50:22 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x

I 09:50:22 Destination File: C:\Brunswick Bowling.iso

I 09:50:22 Destination Free Space: 73,049,772,032 Bytes (71,337,668 KB) (69,665 MB) (68 GB)

I 09:50:22 Destination File System: NTFS

I 09:50:22 File Splitting: Auto

I 09:51:54 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

I 09:51:54 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

W 09:51:56 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:51:56 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 09:51:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:51:58 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 09:51:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:51:59 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 09:52:01 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:01 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 09:52:02 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:02 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 09:52:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:03 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 09:52:05 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:05 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 09:52:06 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:06 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 09:52:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:08 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 09:52:09 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:09 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 09:52:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:10 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 09:52:12 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:12 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 09:52:13 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:13 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 09:52:15 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:15 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 09:52:16 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:16 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 09:52:17 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:17 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 09:52:19 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:19 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 09:52:20 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:20 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 09:52:22 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:22 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 09:52:23 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 09:52:23 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 09:52:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 09:52:48 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 09:52:48 Failed to Read Sectors!

I 09:52:48 Exporting Graph Data...

I 09:52:48 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Joseph Wilkins\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-ROM_GDR8163B_0B15_WEDNESDAY-FEBRUARY-09-2011_9-50_AM_N-A.ibg

I 09:52:48 Export Successfully Completed!

E 09:52:48 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:02:27

E 09:52:48 Average Read Rate: N/A - Maximum Read Rate: N/A

I 09:53:04 Close Request Acknowledged

I 09:53:04 Closing Down...

I 09:53:06 Shutting down SPTI...

I 09:53:06 ImgBurn closed!

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; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log

; Sunday, 06 February 2011, 13:51:33

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I 13:36:25 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 13:36:25 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 13:36:25 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 311,260 KB

W 13:36:25 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 13:36:25 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:36:25 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:36:25 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 13:36:25 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 13:36:25 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 13:41:09 Operation Started!

I 13:41:09 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 13:41:10 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM

I 13:41:10 Source Media Sectors: 2,294,912 (Track Path: PTP)

I 13:41:10 Source Media Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes

I 13:41:10 Source Media File System(s): None

I 13:41:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x

I 13:41:10 Destination File: C:\Image.iso

I 13:41:10 Destination Free Space: 73,292,099,584 Bytes (71,574,316 KB) (69,896 MB) (68 GB)

I 13:41:10 Destination File System: NTFS

I 13:41:10 File Splitting: Auto

I 13:42:40 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

I 13:42:40 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

W 13:42:43 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:43 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 13:42:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:44 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 13:42:46 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:46 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 13:42:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:47 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 13:42:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:48 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 13:42:50 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:50 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 13:42:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:51 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 13:42:52 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:52 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 13:42:54 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:54 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 13:42:55 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:55 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 13:42:56 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:56 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 13:42:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:58 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 13:42:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:42:59 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 13:43:01 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:01 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 13:43:02 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:02 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 13:43:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:03 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 13:43:05 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:05 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 13:43:06 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:06 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 13:43:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:08 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 13:43:09 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:43:09 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 13:43:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 13:43:19 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 13:43:19 Failed to Read Sectors!

I 13:43:19 Exporting Graph Data...

I 13:43:19 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Joseph Wilkins\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-ROM_GDR8163B_0B15_SUNDAY-FEBRUARY-06-2011_1-41_PM_N-A.ibg

I 13:43:19 Export Successfully Completed!

E 13:43:19 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:02:09

E 13:43:19 Average Read Rate: N/A - Maximum Read Rate: N/A

I 13:49:04 Operation Started!

I 13:49:04 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 13:49:04 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM

I 13:49:04 Source Media Sectors: 2,294,912 (Track Path: PTP)

I 13:49:04 Source Media Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes

I 13:49:04 Source Media File System(s): None

I 13:49:04 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x

I 13:49:04 Destination File: C:\WII GAMES\Image.iso

I 13:49:04 Destination Free Space: 73,292,058,624 Bytes (71,574,276 KB) (69,896 MB) (68 GB)

I 13:49:04 Destination File System: NTFS

I 13:49:04 File Splitting: Auto

I 13:50:35 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

I 13:50:35 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)

W 13:50:37 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:37 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 13:50:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:39 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 13:50:40 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:40 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 13:50:41 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:41 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 13:50:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:43 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 13:50:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:44 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 13:50:46 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:46 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 13:50:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:47 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 13:50:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:48 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 13:50:50 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:50 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 13:50:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:51 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 13:50:53 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:53 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 13:50:54 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:54 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 13:50:55 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:55 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 13:50:57 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:57 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 13:50:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:50:58 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 13:50:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:51:00 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 13:51:01 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:51:01 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 13:51:02 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:51:02 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 13:51:04 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 13:51:04 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 13:51:05 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 13:51:22 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 13:51:22 Failed to Read Sectors!

I 13:51:22 Exporting Graph Data...

I 13:51:22 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Joseph Wilkins\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-ROM_GDR8163B_0B15_SUNDAY-FEBRUARY-06-2011_1-49_PM_N-A.ibg

I 13:51:22 Export Successfully Completed!

E 13:51:22 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:02:17

E 13:51:22 Average Read Rate: N/A - Maximum Read Rate: N/A

I 13:51:30 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:51:30 Closing Down...

I 13:51:33 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:51:33 ImgBurn closed!

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; Sunday, 06 February 2011, 13:36:19

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I 13:35:42 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 13:35:43 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 13:35:43 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 316,008 KB

W 13:35:43 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 13:35:43 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:35:43 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:35:43 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 13:35:43 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0B15 (J:) (USB)

I 13:35:43 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 13:36:19 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:36:19 Closing Down...

I 13:36:19 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:36:19 ImgBurn closed!

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; Sunday, 06 February 2011, 13:01:13

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I 12:59:40 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 12:59:40 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 12:59:40 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 399,812 KB

W 12:59:40 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 12:59:40 Initialising SPTI...

I 12:59:40 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 12:59:40 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 12:59:40 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 13:01:13 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:01:13 Closing Down...

I 13:01:13 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:01:13 ImgBurn closed!

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; Friday, 04 February 2011, 12:11:04

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I 12:09:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 12:09:49 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 12:09:49 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 344,108 KB

W 12:09:49 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 12:09:49 Initialising SPTI...

I 12:09:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 12:09:50 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 12:09:50 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 12:11:04 Close Request Acknowledged

I 12:11:04 Closing Down...

I 12:11:04 Shutting down SPTI...

I 12:11:04 ImgBurn closed!

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; Friday, 28 January 2011, 17:12:21

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I 17:09:10 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 17:09:10 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 17:09:10 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 322,312 KB

W 17:09:10 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 17:09:10 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:09:10 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:09:10 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 17:09:10 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 17:12:21 Close Request Acknowledged

I 17:12:21 Closing Down...

I 17:12:21 Shutting down SPTI...

I 17:12:21 ImgBurn closed!

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I 17:02:25 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 17:02:25 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 17:02:25 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 322,404 KB

W 17:02:25 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 17:02:25 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:02:25 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:02:25 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 17:02:25 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 17:08:55 Close Request Acknowledged

I 17:08:55 Closing Down...

I 17:08:56 Shutting down SPTI...

I 17:08:56 ImgBurn closed!

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I 13:43:46 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 13:43:46 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 13:43:46 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 378,792 KB

W 13:43:46 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 13:43:46 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:43:46 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:43:46 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 13:43:46 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 13:43:58 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:43:58 Closing Down...

I 13:43:58 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:43:58 ImgBurn closed!

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; Friday, 28 January 2011, 13:42:45

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I 13:39:19 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!

I 13:39:19 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 13:39:19 Total Physical Memory: 981,604 KB - Available: 398,400 KB

W 13:39:19 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 13:39:19 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:39:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:39:19 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GSA-H10N JX05 (D:) (ATA)

I 13:39:19 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!

I 13:42:44 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:42:44 Closing Down...

I 13:42:45 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:42:45 ImgBurn closed!

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