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hello

 

i decided to try burning at 2x speed on imgburn with blu-ray's when i noticed that recently i've had a small handful of faulty burns with bd's at 4x. they were burned over the course of a couple of months. but since then i've had no problems. but i wanted to be sure that i never have that problem again. so i asked some friends who use Imgburn to burn blurays and they suggested burning at 2x and when i asked if it's necessary to verify they said no. They said to just check the disc by scanning some chapters and playing some of the extras to see if they work or just watch the disc in its entirety. I use Verbatim BD-R DL 4x or Verbatim BD-R 4x for single layer. so i don't think it's my blanks. And when i burn bd's on imgburn i always make sure that software that doesn't need to be running isn't on and that there's no downloads going on. Last night i tried my friends advice at burning at 2x and without verify and i got this log:

 

I 22:14:53 ImgBurn Version 2.5.6.0 started!

I 22:14:53 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 22:14:53 Total Physical Memory: 8,125,624 KB - Available: 5,335,776 KB

I 22:14:53 Initialising SPTI...

I 22:14:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 22:14:53 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00-A9 (D:) (ATA)

I 22:14:53 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON BD B LH-2B1S AL09 (E:) (ATA)

I 22:14:53 -> Drive 3 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (M:) (SCSI)

I 22:14:53 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 2 BD-REs!

I 22:15:11 Operation Started!

I 22:15:11 Building Image Tree...

I 22:15:12 Calculating Totals...

I 22:15:12 Preparing Image...

I 22:15:12 Contents: 353 Files, 20 Folders

I 22:15:12 Content Type: BD Video

I 22:15:12 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 22:15:12 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 22:15:12 Volume Label: [Not Configured]

I 22:15:12 Size: 49,288,944,087 bytes

I 22:15:12 Sectors: 24,067,093

I 22:15:12 Image Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 22:15:12 Image Sectors: 24,068,288

I 22:15:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 22:21:10 Operation Started!

I 22:21:10 Building Image Tree...

I 22:21:12 Calculating Totals...

I 22:21:12 Preparing Image...

I 22:21:12 Contents: 353 Files, 20 Folders

I 22:21:12 Content Type: BD Video

I 22:21:12 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 22:21:12 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 22:21:12 Volume Label: Red State - Blu-ray™

I 22:21:12 Size: 49,288,944,087 bytes

I 22:21:12 Sectors: 24,067,093

I 22:21:12 Image Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 22:21:12 Image Sectors: 24,068,288

I 22:21:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:06

I 22:21:17 Operation Started!

I 22:21:17 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 22:21:17 Source File Sectors: 24,068,288 (MODE1/2048)

I 22:21:17 Source File Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 22:21:17 Source File Volume Identifier: Red State - Blu-ray™

I 22:21:17 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4079B2A5016F3EF5

I 22:21:17 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.6.0

I 22:21:17 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 22:21:17 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 22:21:17 Destination Device: [2:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 22:21:17 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMd-000)

I 22:21:17 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x

I 22:21:17 Destination Media Sectors: 24,438,784

I 22:21:17 Write Mode: BD

I 22:21:17 Write Type: DAO

I 22:21:17 Write Speed: 2x

I 22:21:17 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes

I 22:21:17 Link Size: Auto

I 22:21:17 Lock Volume: Yes

I 22:21:17 Test Mode: No

I 22:21:17 OPC: No

I 22:21:17 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 22:21:17 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,991 KB/s (2x)

I 22:22:00 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 22:22:03 Writing LeadIn...

W 22:24:03 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Reason: No Seek Complete

W 22:24:03 Retrying (1 of 20)...

I 22:24:03 Writing LeadIn...

W 22:25:43 Failed to Write Sectors 928 - 959 - Reason: Program Memory Area Update Failure

W 22:25:43 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:43 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 22:25:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:44 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 22:25:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 22:25:44 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 22:25:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 21:38:01 Retrying (21)...

W 21:38:01 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 21:38:07 Retrying (22)...

W 21:38:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 21:38:08 Retrying (23)...

W 21:38:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

E 21:38:09 Failed to Write Sectors 928 - 959 - Reason: Program Memory Area Update Failure

E 21:38:09 Next Writable Address: 0

I 21:38:09 Synchronising Cache...

I 21:38:16 Closing Track...

I 21:41:39 Finalising Disc...

W 21:45:03 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 21:47:11 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 21:47:11 Failed to Write Image!

E 21:48:53 Operation Failed! - Duration: 23:25:54

I 21:48:53 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)

 

 

you might notice a difference in time near the end of the log. that's cause i checked the computer the next night. just so you know. i also got this error message on the screen. i think i forgot to write something down when i originally copied it but i hope it's sufficent to help.

 

I/O Error!

Device: [2:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00-A9 (D:) (ATA)

scsi status: 0x02

Interpretation: check condition

CDB AA 00 00 00 03 A0 00 00 00 20 40 00

Interpretation: Write (12) - Sectors: 928-959

Sense area: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 D4 73 04 00 00 00 00

Interpretation: program memory area update failure

 

also i have my BDs that i burn stored on two drives for backup. one that i erase the BD right after i finish burning and the other for erasing after i know for sure the whole bd plays fine. i know it sounds strange but the reason is that i am still not sure if my new internal drive which is one of the drives is working 100% correctly. so i am doing this for a few more months until i feel safe. the drive crashed one time but it worked fine after it rebooted. that drive is a Seagate. all my internal drives i installed are 2 TB Seagates.

 

i tried again tonight burning this bd this time from a different internal drive that i use for BDs. here is the log:

 

I 23:09:29 ImgBurn Version 2.5.6.0 started!

I 23:09:29 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 23:09:29 Total Physical Memory: 8,125,624 KB - Available: 6,140,872 KB

I 23:09:29 Initialising SPTI...

I 23:09:29 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 23:09:30 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00-A9 (D:) (ATA)

I 23:09:30 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON BD B LH-2B1S AL09 (E:) (ATA)

I 23:09:30 -> Drive 3 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (M:) (SCSI)

I 23:09:30 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 2 BD-REs!

I 23:09:39 Operation Started!

I 23:09:39 Building Image Tree...

I 23:09:39 Calculating Totals...

I 23:09:39 Preparing Image...

I 23:09:39 Contents: 353 Files, 20 Folders

I 23:09:39 Content Type: BD Video

I 23:09:39 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 23:09:39 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 23:09:39 Volume Label: [Not Configured]

I 23:09:39 Size: 49,288,944,087 bytes

I 23:09:39 Sectors: 24,067,093

I 23:09:39 Image Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 23:09:39 Image Sectors: 24,068,288

I 23:09:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 23:11:30 Operation Started!

I 23:11:30 Building Image Tree...

I 23:11:32 Calculating Totals...

I 23:11:32 Preparing Image...

I 23:11:32 Contents: 353 Files, 20 Folders

I 23:11:32 Content Type: BD Video

I 23:11:32 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 23:11:32 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 23:11:32 Volume Label: Red State - Blu-ray™

I 23:11:32 Size: 49,288,944,087 bytes

I 23:11:32 Sectors: 24,067,093

I 23:11:32 Image Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 23:11:32 Image Sectors: 24,068,288

I 23:11:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03

I 23:11:34 Operation Started!

I 23:11:34 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 23:11:34 Source File Sectors: 24,068,288 (MODE1/2048)

I 23:11:34 Source File Size: 49,291,853,824 bytes

I 23:11:34 Source File Volume Identifier: Red State - Blu-ray™

I 23:11:34 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 407AB96F016F3EF5

I 23:11:34 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.6.0

I 23:11:34 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 23:11:34 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 23:11:34 Destination Device: [2:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 23:11:34 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMd-000)

I 23:11:34 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x

I 23:11:34 Destination Media Sectors: 24,438,784

I 23:11:34 Write Mode: BD

I 23:11:34 Write Type: DAO

I 23:11:34 Write Speed: 2x

I 23:11:34 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes

I 23:11:34 Link Size: Auto

I 23:11:34 Lock Volume: Yes

I 23:11:34 Test Mode: No

I 23:11:35 OPC: No

I 23:11:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 23:11:35 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,991 KB/s (2x)

I 23:12:23 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 23:12:28 Writing LeadIn...

I 23:13:24 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 24068287)

I 23:13:24 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 24068287)

I 23:13:24 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)

I 23:59:56 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 24068287)

I 00:45:05 Synchronising Cache...

I 00:47:37 Closing Track...

I 00:47:38 Finalising Disc...

I 00:49:33 Exporting Graph Data...

I 00:49:33 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH10LS30_1.00_MONDAY-MARCH-26-2012_11-11_PM_VERBAT-IMd-000_2x.ibg

I 00:49:33 Export Successfully Completed!

I 00:49:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:37:54

I 00:49:33 Average Write Rate: 8,750 KB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 9,080 KB/s (2.0x)

I 01:02:33 Close Request Acknowledged

I 01:02:33 Closing Down...

I 01:02:34 Shutting down SPTI...

I 01:02:34 ImgBurn closed!

 

i tried playing this copy on my ps3 and my other bd player and it didn't play correctly. it would freeze at startup and not start. and then other attempts it would freeze and skip. video breakups and another time the menu wouldn't display correctly. so that's another coaster. can someone please help me? i'd like to have some advice before i attempt to make another burn. Blu-ray blanks as we know aren't exactly cheap...

 

thanks in advance.

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Performing a (successful) verify operation proves the disc is 100% readable in the drive that just burnt it. My advice would be to ignore your friends and let ImgBurn do it's *full* job.

 

If you then want to double check the disc by trying it on your intended playback device then so be it.

 

The 'VERBAT-IMd-000' dye/mid is rated for 4x burning but the only way you'd know how well your drive can burn them at that speed (or any speed) is to do some disc quality scans - for which you'd need a LiteOn blu-ray drive and something like Opti Drive Control / CDSpeed.

 

If you're getting bad burns at 2x and 4x, you might want to start looking at getting some different discs (perhaps the 2x or 6x versions of the Verbatims) or doing something with your drive (cleaning it or replacing it).

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hey lightning

 

thanks for the speedy reply. i have some questions i'd like to ask you. i forgot to mention that i've always used the verify feature with my BDs until i tried the two burns mentioned above. what i don't get is how that small handful of discs that i burnt months ago that i also mentioned above were faulty. i burnt those at 4x and used verify and yet they still were faulty.

 

you say my verbatim media is rated for 4x. so that means i can only burn at 4x on that type of blank correctly? on the actual discs it lists just 4x not 2x-4x. that's why i ask. i will try Opti Drive Control / CDSpeed. i found opti drive control in google but is cdspeed the name of the developer or another app? i just wanna be sure.

 

isn't it true that for bd burning it's safest to burn at the slowest speed to get the best error free burn? like 2x? i've been using 4x speed for BD's for over a year now and i've had pretty good sucess with it.

 

my last question is do you know by any chance how i got that I/O error?

 

thanks in advance for your further answers. :)

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you say my verbatim media is rated for 4x. so that means i can only burn at 4x on that type of blank correctly?

 

No, it just means that's what they're designed for.

 

You burn at whatever speed your drive does the best job at.

 

That varies by drive/firmware/media - hence the reason for burning a disc at each 'supported' speed and then checking the quality via the likes of opti drive control.

 

cdspeed and opti drive control are both program names and the programs were made by the same person. Opti drive control is just the newer of the two.

 

You got the I/O error because your drive didn't like something about the disc. The drive reports the error, ImgBurn simply displays it to the user.

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hey lightning

 

thanks again for the info. one more inquiry. i just looked at the site for Opti drive control. downloaded it but i didn't see cdspeed on there. is it discontinued? am i good with just opti drive control?

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cdspeed comes as part of the Nero suite. You can find it on their site or on various generic software news/download sites. You don't need both programs though, ODC will do. Notice I did state you need a LiteOn Blu-ray drive to perform the quality tests though, not all drives are capable of it.

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I 23:09:30 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON BD B LH-2B1S AL09 (E:) (ATA)

 

Ah yes, sorry, I misread the drive's identifier for something from an old DVD drive.

 

All of LiteOn's new BD drives (including the 2 I own) have iHBSxxx / iHESxxx type names.

 

You should be good to go then :)

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