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I am using my laptop to burn a movie that i took on my handycam. everytime it says ' write error' IMGBurn tried 20 times and could not burn on the memorex dvd-r that i had in my drive.

 

What am i doing wrong?

Posted

RalliKid04, One possibility is that your using bad media, Memorex generally uses CMC MAG dye which is not the best, actually crap, dye there is. Another thing might be that laptop burners are generally a little more finicky then desktop models and your machine may not like the media your trying to burn to. Maybe try some different media. :)

 

 

 

If this happens again could you please post a log so we can see exactly whats happening. :thumbup:

Posted

Now this is happening...

 

I 14:54:26 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 14:54:26 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 14:54:26 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4084N KQ09 (E:) (ATA)

I 14:54:26 Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: RITEK-004-48) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)

I 14:54:26 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104

I 14:54:26 Write Mode: DVD

I 14:54:26 Write Type: DAO

I 14:54:26 Write Speed: MAX

I 14:54:26 Link Size: Auto

I 14:54:26 Test Mode: No

I 14:54:26 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 14:58:26 Filling Buffer...

I 14:58:27 Writing LeadIn...

W 15:02:26 Failed to Write Sectors 544 - 575 - No Seek Complete

W 15:02:26 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 15:02:26 Retry Failed - No Seek Complete

W 15:02:26 Retrying (2 of 20)...

I 15:02:26 Writing LeadIn...

I 15:02:26 Writing Image...

W 15:06:19 Failed to Write Sectors 1088 - 1119 - No Seek Complete

W 15:06:19 Retrying (1 of 20)...

I 15:06:19 Writing Image...

W 15:12:40 Failed to Write Sectors 1632 - 1663 - No Seek Complete

W 15:12:40 Retrying (1 of 20)...

I 15:12:40 Writing Image...

 

 

I don't know why it won't burn anything. I matched my settings to the ones in the tutorial exactly.

Posted

basically, your drive does not like that brand/ink/dye of media. its having difficulty seeing it.

a firmware update for your drive "may" cure the problem , but better off getting a good media like taiyo yuden or verbatim

Posted

As volvo stated media is the problem, your drive doesn't like it. This must be in a HP laptop machine and fairly new since there is no firmware updates for your LG burner yet. :/

Posted
RalliKid04, One possibility is that your using bad media, Memorex generally uses CMC MAG dye which is not the best, actually crap, dye there is. Another thing might be that laptop burners are generally a little more finicky then desktop models and your machine may not like the media your trying to burn to. Maybe try some different media. :)

 

 

 

If this happens again could you please post a log so we can see exactly whats happening. :thumbup:

 

Is this the same proble as mine?

I am getting burn errors while trying to copy Hollowman 2

 

I am running:

Rip4me, ver #1.4.10.0

DVD Decripter, ver# 3.5.4.0

DVD Shrink, ver#3.2.0.15

ImgBurn, ver#2.0.0

Verbatim, part #341814 Verbatim 94852 8X DVD-R 4.7GB

 

I checked my DMA access, for reader and burner, and they both are DMA 5

NEC DVD RW ND-3520A

HL_DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B

Windows Media Edition 2002, ver. #2 operating system

Pentium 4, 3.4 GHz

2.00 GB Ram

wireless keyboard and mouse

---------------------------------------------------

I start ri4m v1.4.10.0, put DVD in F: drive. [Full dvd, drive G selected.]

Wizard mode. Hit 'create psl'. Clicked fixvts, Hit rip button. DVDD 3.5.4.0

 

is launched and write drive is G.

Everything works with no errors, till DVD Decripter tries to burn!

 

this is is the error window:::

DVD Decrypter:

 

I/O Error!

Device: (0:1:0)_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04(G:) (ATA)

 

ScsiStatus: 0x02

Interpretation: Check Condition

 

CDB: 2A 00 00 00 03 40 00 00 20 00

Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors 832 - 863

 

Sense Area 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0CV 00 00 00 00 00

Interpretation: Write Error

-----------------------------------------------------

This is the window I receive in ImgBurn, ver 2.0:

 

Error log:

I 13:54:07 ImgBurn Version 2.0.0.0 started!

I 13:54:07 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 :

 

Service Pack 2)

W 13:54:07 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB

I 13:54:07 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:54:07 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:54:13 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW!

I 14:08:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 14:08:35 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW!

I 14:08:44 Operation Started!

I 14:08:44 Source File: C:\temp\HOLLOW_MAN_II.ISO

I 14:08:44 Source File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048)

I 14:08:45 Source File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes

I 14:08:45 Source File Volume Identifier: HOLLOW_MAN_II

I 14:08:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 14:08:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 14:08:45 Destination Device: [0:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04 (G:) (ATA)

I 14:08:45 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 2x,

 

4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)

I 14:08:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 14:08:45 Write Mode: DVD

I 14:08:45 Write Type: DAO

I 14:08:45 Write Speed: MAX

I 14:08:45 Link Size: Auto

I 14:08:45 Test Mode: Yes

I 14:08:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 14:08:45 Filling Buffer...

I 14:08:45 Writing LeadIn...

I 14:09:15 Writing Image...

W 14:17:10 Failed to Write Sectors 2066016 - 2066047 - No Seek Complete

W 14:17:10 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:10 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 14:17:10 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:25 Retrying (21)...

W 14:17:25 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:26 Retrying (22)...

W 14:17:26 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:27 Retrying (23)...

W 14:17:27 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:28 Retrying (24)...

W 14:17:28 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:28 Retrying (25)...

W 14:17:28 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 14:17:29 Retrying (26)...

W 14:17:29 Retry Failed - Write Error

E 14:21:54 Failed to Write Sectors 2066016 - 2066047 - No Seek Complete

I 14:21:54 Synchronising Cache...

I 14:21:55 Cycling Tray after Test Write...

E 14:23:01 Failed to Write Image!

E 14:23:02 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:14:17

I 14:23:02 Average Write Rate: 5,444 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate:

 

11,474 KB/s (8.3x)

 

----------------------------------------------------

This is the equiptment specs in Imgburn (right window)

 

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

Posted (edited)

I have checked the link you provided and I am concerned that I may botch the flashing on my drive. Can you point me to a "Flashing for Dummies" guide? I am new to all of this and I do appreciate the replies and help. Thanks, Rastus2

Never mind, I have bit the bullet and downloaded the file(s) and they seem to have the info I am looking for, I'm just worried about my skill in this, is all.

Edited by Rastus2
Posted

Flashing your drive for the first time can be a bit nerve-wracking. (You're lucky they aren't $600 each anymore. That was nerve-wracking). :) There's a couple of things you can do to make it a little less scary like taking any CD/DVDs out of the drive and shutting down all unnecessary programs (less chance of crashing). Read any documentation that comes with the new firmware if there is any and once you've decided to flash your drive, start the process and let it do its job without playing with the mouse and keyboard.

 

Good luck.

Posted

I remember my first firmware flash too Shamus - I was cacking it as I was just getting into all this, I think in the end all the assurances I got from the regulars over at DVDD ("Do it you nob", "Just f'in flash it" etc) :D made me take the plunge !! =))

 

Have done it loads now for my NEC and BenQ drives without any probs.

Posted (edited)

I flashed the drive and it shows as the newer firmware, the problem now is every blank disc I put in shows as "not empty" in ImgBurn's tool bar, bottom left. I have encluded the right window from the session.

 

I am using Verbatim DataLife Plus, DVD-R 8-X (up till now, -o- failures)

and I should add that I am running ImgBurn in the test mode because os -8- disc failures BEFORE the flashing of my drive.

 

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

Edited by Rastus2
Posted
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

 

These look the same to me.

 

Going by what's being returned by the drive, the discs aren't empty.

 

Do you have anything other than those Verbatim DVD-R discs?

Posted
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

 

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

These look the same to me.

 

Going by what's being returned by the drive, the discs aren't empty.

 

Do you have anything other than those Verbatim DVD-R discs?

 

No, I have purchase ALOT of these and so far I have had great luck with them, no that I am in love with them , they were working, so no need to change. These failures begain when I updated Ripit4forme. I was hoping some one else would know if it was because of Ripit's update. Is there another way to test my burner?

Posted

Unless you have a rogue filter driver in your system somewhere, your drive just isn't seeing the discs (any more) in the way you need it to in order to burn them.

 

It's not seeing that there's any free space on them and it thinks the track/session is 'complete' rather than 'empty'.

 

afaik, ripit4me is just an exe. It would take a proper driver to mess anything like this up.

Posted
afaik, ripit4me is just an exe

 

doesn't even write to the registry, entry in prefetch, just remembering settings

 

my nec 3550 got a little lint in it(cat fuzz?) saw all burned dvd's as

dvd-rw's, still burned blanks ok. blowing it out fixed?

 

go figure

Posted (edited)
I open the tray and power down computer, then blow it out

 

compressed air

I opened tray and blew it out and low and behold it begain to write,,,, then it failed with this error in ImgBurn:

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-R

 

Disc Information:

Status: Empty

Erasable: No

Free Sectors: 2,298,496

Free Space: 4,707,319,808 bytes

Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

 

Pre-recorded Information:

Manufacturer ID: MCC 02RG20

 

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):

Book Type: DVD-R

Part Version: 5

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,495,103

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

 

ImgBurn Log:

I 11:53:08 ImgBurn Version 2.0.0.0 started!

I 11:53:08 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

W 11:53:08 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB

I 11:53:08 Initialising SPTI...

I 11:53:08 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 11:53:14 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW!

I 16:10:24 Operation Started!

I 16:10:24 Source File: C:\temp\AKEELAH_16X9.ISO

I 16:10:24 Source File Sectors: 2,277,735 (MODE1/2048)

I 16:10:24 Source File Size: 4,664,801,280 bytes

I 16:10:24 Source File Volume Identifier: AKEELAH_16X9

I 16:10:24 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 16:10:24 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 16:10:24 Destination Device: [0:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (G:) (ATA)

I 16:10:24 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)

I 16:10:24 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 16:10:24 Write Mode: DVD

I 16:10:24 Write Type: DAO

I 16:10:24 Write Speed: 8x

I 16:10:24 Link Size: Auto

I 16:10:24 Test Mode: Yes

I 16:10:24 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 16:10:24 Filling Buffer...

I 16:10:25 Writing LeadIn...

I 16:10:49 Writing Image...

W 16:14:07 Failed to Write Sectors 452192 - 452223 - No Seek Complete

W 16:14:07 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:07 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 16:14:07 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:17 Retrying (21)...

W 16:14:17 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:17 Retrying (22)...

W 16:14:17 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:17 Retrying (23)...

W 16:14:18 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:21 Retrying (24)...

W 16:14:21 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:22 Retrying (25)...

W 16:14:22 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:22 Retrying (26)...

W 16:14:22 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:22 Retrying (27)...

W 16:14:22 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:23 Retrying (28)...

W 16:14:23 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:23 Retrying (29)...

W 16:14:23 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:23 Retrying (30)...

W 16:14:23 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:23 Retrying (31)...

W 16:14:23 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:23 Retrying (32)...

W 16:14:23 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (33)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (34)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (35)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (36)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (37)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:24 Retrying (38)...

W 16:14:24 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:25 Retrying (39)...

W 16:14:25 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:25 Retrying (40)...

W 16:14:25 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:25 Retrying (41)...

W 16:14:25 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:14:25 Retrying (42)...

W 16:14:25 Retry Failed - Write Error

E 16:14:38 Failed to Write Sectors 452192 - 452223 - No Seek Complete

I 16:14:38 Synchronising Cache...

I 16:14:39 Cycling Tray after Test Write...

E 16:15:03 Failed to Write Image!

E 16:15:03 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:39

I 16:15:03 Average Write Rate: 3,949 KB/s (2.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,750 KB/s (4.2x)

I 16:18:53 Operation Started!

I 16:18:53 Source File: C:\temp\AKEELAH_16X9.ISO

I 16:18:53 Source File Sectors: 2,277,735 (MODE1/2048)

I 16:18:53 Source File Size: 4,664,801,280 bytes

I 16:18:53 Source File Volume Identifier: AKEELAH_16X9

I 16:18:53 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 16:18:53 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 16:18:53 Destination Device: [0:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (G:) (ATA)

I 16:18:53 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)

I 16:18:53 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 16:18:53 Write Mode: DVD

I 16:18:53 Write Type: DAO

I 16:18:53 Write Speed: 8x

I 16:18:53 Link Size: Auto

I 16:18:53 Test Mode: Yes

I 16:18:53 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 16:18:53 Filling Buffer...

I 16:18:54 Writing LeadIn...

I 16:19:19 Writing Image...

W 16:22:37 Failed to Write Sectors 452192 - 452223 - No Seek Complete

W 16:22:37 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

W 16:22:37 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 16:22:37 Retry Failed - Write Error

E 16:22:46 Failed to Write Sectors 452192 - 452223 - No Seek Complete

I 16:22:47 Synchronising Cache...

I 16:22:48 Cycling Tray after Test Write...

Edited by Rastus2
Posted
try reflashing it to the firmware before, maybe the one you got was corrupt

Well, I blew it out three more times and re-flashed it and it will burn to 19% each time, then fail. I hate to use one of those DVD cleaners if it isn't a "dirt" issue because I have it that they can scratch the lens.

Posted

Rastus2;

 

I have used the same cleaning disc for the past 3 years and haven't done a bit of damage. Follow the directions and you shouldn't hurt the drive.... :)

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