jorgk3 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Computer configuration: ASUS F2A85-V motherboard, AMD A10 5700 APU, 4 GB RAM. Motherboard is all SATA, no IDE. Two optical drives: 1) LG HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NS95 (SATA) 2) LG HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10N (IDE, connected via DeLOCK 61719 IDE to SATA adaptor). The second drive has givem me problems today after working before. A while ago l I successfully copied a few audio CDs (Read/Write) using this drive. Here are the last lines of a log for one of them: === I 23:48:28 Operation Started!I 23:48:28 Source Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10N JL11 (F:) (SATA)I 23:48:28 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s16f, Sony Corp.)I 23:48:28 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40xI 23:48:28 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48xI 23:48:28 Image File: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.cueI 23:48:28 Image File Sectors: 244,460 (AUDIO/2352)I 23:48:28 Image File Size: 574,969,920 bytesI 23:48:28 Image File File System(s): NoneI 23:48:28 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 23:48:30 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (2 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 244459)I 23:48:30 Verifying Track 1 of 2... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 0 - 121501)I 23:49:44 Verifying Track 2 of 2... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 121502 - 244459)I 23:50:42 Exporting Graph Data...I 23:50:42 Graph Data File: C:\Users\jorgk\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10N_JL11_SATURDAY-27-APRIL-2013_23-40_97m24s16f_8x.ibgI 23:50:42 Export Successfully Completed!I 23:50:42 File Successfully Deleted: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.binI 23:50:42 File Successfully Deleted: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.cueI 23:50:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:06I 23:50:42 Average Verify Rate: 4,528 KB/s (30.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 6,155 KB/s (41.0x)I 23:51:03 Close Request AcknowledgedI 23:51:03 Closing Down...I 23:51:03 Shutting down SPTI...I 23:51:03 ImgBurn closed!=== I also wrote a few CDs using (FLAC) audio data. So far so good. Today I wanted to copy a few more CDs and suddenly, what had worked before, now no longer worked. The process hung during the writing of the LeadIn. It was so badly blocked, that I had to kill the process. No log was written. The CD drive was still locked. Even after a restart it was locked and I couldn't get the CD out. I actually had to power the PC down and start it up again, before I could take my coaster out. Then I swapped the LG GSA-H10N (with firmware JL11) for the same model, this time with firmware JL10. I tried again, and it hung again. I killed ImgBurn, so no log was written. Second coaster for the day. I tried copying different CD, and now it worked: == I 19:53:00 Verifying Track 11 of 11... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 294769 - 327947)I 19:53:18 Exporting Graph Data...I 19:53:18 Graph Data File: C:\Users\jorgk\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10N_JL10_WEDNESDAY-22-MAY-2013_19-40_97m17s06f_8x.ibgI 19:53:18 Export Successfully Completed!I 19:53:18 File Successfully Deleted: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.binI 19:53:18 File Successfully Deleted: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.cueI 19:53:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:37I 19:53:18 Average Verify Rate: 4,859 KB/s (32.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 6,829 KB/s (45.5x)=== Then I tried one more CD and it failed again, third coaster for the day. This time I didn't kill ImgBurn, instead I shut down and got a log: === I 20:12:48 Operation Started!I 20:12:48 Source File: H:\SCRATCH\ImgBurn\Image.cueI 20:12:48 Source File Sectors: 310,961 (AUDIO/2352)I 20:12:48 Source File Size: 731,380,272 bytesI 20:12:48 Source File File System(s): NoneI 20:12:48 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10N JL10 (F:) (SATA)I 20:12:48 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m17s06f, Moser Baer India)I 20:12:48 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48xI 20:12:48 Destination Media Sectors: 359,847I 20:12:48 Write Mode: CDI 20:12:48 Write Type: SAOI 20:12:48 Write Speed: 8xI 20:12:48 Lock Volume: YesI 20:12:48 Test Mode: NoI 20:12:48 OPC: NoI 20:12:48 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 20:12:48 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 1,411 KB/s (8x)I 20:12:48 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)I 20:12:49 Writing LeadIn...I 20:26:34 Abort Request Acknowledged=== Note that it hung 14 minutes writing the LeadIn. Summary: Before today I had no problem to write CDs on my old LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10N, firmware JL11. Today three out of four attempts failed with this model, I tried two units, the one with firmware JL11 (one failure), the other with firmware JL10 (two failures, one success). On the newer drive LG HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NS95 I haven't had a failure so far.
jorgk3 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Posted May 22, 2013 I did a little more research: The blanks I am using are labelled "Sony", but actually made by Moser Baer India. It's a new batch, perhaps the drive doesn't like them. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=18685 says that the drive may not report a failure early enough, so that makes ImgBurn hang. There is a firmware update available for the drive (JL12). Looking at the release notes, I doubt that the update will help. So what's the best approach? Forget about the old drive? Or at least forget about using this particular media in the old drive? Im using the old drive since it allows 8x write, and I prefer that over 16x for audio CDs. Perhaps that's just foolish?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Personally, I'd try burning them at 24x and if there's a firmware update available, do it regardless of what the release notes say it addresses. If it still won't burn to those discs, either forget about using the drive with them and stick to using your newer one or try those drives again with some better (Taiyo Yuden) discs.
jorgk3 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Posted May 23, 2013 Hi, thank you for your reply. First of all, I'd like to say that ImgBurn is fantastic software! As I have two units of type LG GSA-H10N, I copied three CDs (same media) successfully (as usual) today on a PC where the unit is connected via an IDE-cable. I suspect that the IDE to SATA adaptor is the cuplrit. I haven't had a coaster in many years, it only started again yesterday and only in the configuration where this adaptor is used. So my question is: Do you have any experience with these adaptors? There are a few adaptors on the market using different chipsets. Mine is the DeLOCK 61719 IDE to SATA adaptor, I'd have to open the machine to check which chipset it uses.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Try bringing up the 'Family Tree' info on the drive - right click the destination drive box and you'll see it on the context menu. It may mention which chipset is being used. Feel free to copy + paste the info from the log.
jorgk3 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Posted May 24, 2013 I wasn't aware of the "Family tree" and the all the other super-cool features you get by right-clicking on the drive selection menu. Great stuff! On XP I used DiskInfo, but they stopped development in 2008 and it doesn't work on Windows 7. Anyway, the chipset of the IDE to SATA converter didn't show there, it's completely transparent to Windows. However, I opened the machine and looked at the little adaptor. It's a: Sunplus IT, SATALink, SPIF223A-HL022 So, does anyone have any experience with IDE to SATA adaptors and this one in particular? As I said, I have a couple of (old) spare IDE optical drives. Now I swapped the LG GSA-H10N out and put in an LG GCE-8526B (CD-R/W only). I flashed the latest firmware onto it (1.05). Log says: I 15:50:42 Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8526B 1.05 (F:) (SATA) Surely it's not a native SATA drive. So I will see how I go with that.
jorgk3 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 Last night I attempted to burn two audio CDs on the (old) LG CD-RW GCE-8526B as follows: A CD from FLAC audio files (using Xiph open Codecs - http://www.xiph.org/dshow/downloads/). When writing the lead-in, a progress is displayed in percent. This disk burned successfully. A CD copy, so a CD gets read and a new CD is written with a CUE file that looks like this: FILE "Image.bin" BINARY. This time it didn't work. The process hung while writing the lead-in. Sorry, no log, since I killed the process. On the new burner that always works I noticed that for "binary" images, no progress is displayed when writing the lead-in. So I note that writing a lead-in is different depending which type of data is written to the CD. Maybe there is some room for improvement when writing "binary" images.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 It's only a bit different when writing a CD-TEXT leadin - because the program has to do a bit more work. Otherwise, it's all down to the drive.
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