MichaelM Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) hi everyone sorry if this has been posted before. i searched around and all i found was old posts and not bluray. i have a Lite-On ATAPI iHBS212 with the latest firmware. Recently i have been getting this message appear while burning a bd. there are three things i think may be causing this. 1 i cleaned out my cpu tower and there was a lot of dust and stuff which i cleaned out and i may have by accident sprayed the dust away on part of the bd drive im having trouble with. 2nd is my friend suggested me to use ccleaner to remove registry entries that were taking up useless space. and 3 is the drive may be just at the end of its lifecycle. i use a lens cleaner after getting the message below. after using the lens cleaner it burnt without that message appearing. I am using Verbatim bd-r dl 4x. i choose 4x cause that's basically the only speed i find at a decent price for this brand on ebay. EDIT: i just thought of something. could it be the discs i wanna burn on my hdd could that hdd be becoming bad? ive been using one drive for tons of discs and have had it for a few years now and constantly deleteing stuff off it. here is my logfile: ; //****************************************\\; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log; Tuesday, 10 December 2013, 11:29:18; \\****************************************//;;I 10:30:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!I 10:30:39 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)I 10:30:39 Total Physical Memory: 8,125,620 KiB - Available: 6,436,840 KiBI 10:30:39 Initialising SPTI...I 10:30:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 10:30:39 -> Drive 1 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (I:) (SCSI)I 10:30:40 -> Drive 2 - Info: ATAPI iHBS212 2 HL05 (G:) (ATA)I 10:30:41 -> Drive 3 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.00-A9 (H:) (ATA)I 10:30:41 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 2 BD-REs!I 10:33:33 Operation Started!I 10:33:33 Source File: E:\Blu-rays\BD50\FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VI.isoI 10:33:33 Source File Sectors: 22,380,512 (MODE1/2048)I 10:33:33 Source File Size: 45,835,288,576 bytesI 10:33:33 Source File Volume Identifier: FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VII 10:33:33 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 02C97E5A FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VII 10:33:33 Source File Application Identifier: SonicScenaristBDI 10:33:33 Source File Implementation Identifier: SonicScenaristBDI 10:33:33 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 10:33:33 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHBS212 2 HL05 (G:) (ATA)I 10:33:33 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMd-000)I 10:33:33 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4xI 10:33:33 Destination Media Sectors: 24,438,784I 10:33:33 Write Mode: BDI 10:33:33 Write Type: DAOI 10:33:33 Write Speed: 4xI 10:33:33 Hardware Defect Management Active: NoI 10:33:33 BD-R Verify Not Required: YesI 10:33:33 Link Size: AutoI 10:33:33 Lock Volume: YesI 10:33:33 Test Mode: NoI 10:33:33 OPC: NoI 10:33:33 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 10:33:35 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 17,980 KB/s (4x)I 10:33:35 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: YesI 10:33:35 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 356 - CD/DVD Record Count: 49I 10:33:35 BD Life Record Count: 172 - BD Record Count: 28I 10:34:30 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 10:34:34 Writing LeadIn...I 10:34:36 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 22380511)I 10:34:36 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 22380511)I 10:34:36 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)I 10:57:45 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 22380511)I 11:17:06 Synchronising Cache...I 11:17:08 Closing Track...I 11:17:09 Finalising Disc...I 11:17:27 Exporting Graph Data...I 11:17:27 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Michael\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHBS212_2_HL05_TUESDAY-DECEMBER-10-2013_10-33_AM_VERBAT-IMd-000_4x.ibgI 11:17:27 Export Successfully Completed!I 11:17:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:43:53I 11:17:27 Average Write Rate: 17,560 KiB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 18,157 KiB/s (4.1x)I 11:17:27 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 11:17:34 Waiting for device to become ready...W 11:18:34 Device Not Ready - Incompatible Medium InstalledW 11:18:34 Retrying (1 of 3)...I 11:18:34 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 11:18:40 Waiting for device to become ready...W 11:19:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Incompatible Medium InstalledW 11:19:39 Retrying (2 of 3)...I 11:19:39 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 11:19:45 Waiting for device to become ready...W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Incompatible Medium InstalledW 11:20:44 Retrying (3 of 3)...I 11:20:44 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 11:20:50 Waiting for device to become ready...W 11:21:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Incompatible Medium InstalledW 11:23:12 Retrying (4)...I 11:23:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 11:23:18 Waiting for device to become ready...I 11:23:45 Device Ready!I 11:23:49 Operation Started!I 11:23:49 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHBS212 2 HL05 (G:) (ATA)I 11:23:49 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMd-000)I 11:23:49 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 1x, 2x, 4x, 6x, 8xI 11:23:49 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4xI 11:23:49 Source Media Sectors: 22,380,512I 11:23:49 Source Media Size: 45,835,288,576 bytesI 11:23:49 Image File: E:\Blu-rays\BD50\FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VI.isoI 11:23:49 Image File Sectors: 22,380,512 (MODE1/2048)I 11:23:49 Image File Size: 45,835,288,576 bytesI 11:23:49 Image File Volume Identifier: FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VII 11:23:49 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 02C97E5A FRIDAY_THE_13TH_PART_V_PART_VII 11:23:49 Image File Application Identifier: SonicScenaristBDI 11:23:49 Image File Implementation Identifier: SonicScenaristBDI 11:23:49 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 11:23:49 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 11:23:50 Read Speed - Effective: 3.2x - 8xI 11:23:51 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 22380511)I 11:23:51 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 22380511)I 11:23:51 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)I 11:23:57 Abort Request AcknowledgedE 11:23:58 Failed to Verify Sectors!I 11:23:59 Exporting Graph Data...I 11:23:59 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Michael\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHBS212_2_HL05_TUESDAY-DECEMBER-10-2013_10-33_AM_VERBAT-IMd-000_4x.ibgI 11:23:59 Export Successfully Completed!E 11:23:59 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:00:08I 11:23:59 Average Verify Rate: 12,629 KiB/s (2.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14,962 KiB/s (3.4x)I 11:29:17 Close Request AcknowledgedI 11:29:17 Closing Down...I 11:29:18 Shutting down SPTI...I 11:29:18 ImgBurn closed!; Edited December 15, 2013 by MichaelM
MichaelM Posted December 16, 2013 Author Posted December 16, 2013 i guess it's time to retire this drive huh? any help would be greatly appreciated. i have the firmware HL05 for this Lite-On ATAPI iHBS212 and i cannot find any newer. i thought maybe there was a conflict with Windows 8.1?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Your drive appears unable to re-initialise the disc it just burnt... so either it's just really bad at reading (where you then get this issue with almost all discs) or it did a really bad job of burning the 'VERBAT-IMd-000' disc you used. If it's been ok with them in the past, trying discs from another spindle or cleaning the drive with a cleaning disc may help. You may still end up buying a new drive though.
MichaelM Posted December 16, 2013 Author Posted December 16, 2013 hi ive been getting this message with every bd i try to burn recently. i tried a cleaning disc from maxell. i ran it two separate times. i am going to try a 25gb verbatim and see if it works. but now i have a new problem. i just tried burning a bd on my other disc drive "HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30" and it gave a error message. i was burning a bd25 and i updated the firmware earlier today. before i updated the firmware on it i tried burning the same bd25 and it hung on verifying it. it wouldn't go past 0% in verfirying it. my only 2 guesses at this point why im having all these troubles with these drives is that either i scratched the lens or messed them up somehow when i was cleaning inside the computer tower with dust away or the hdd's my backups are on are failing. heres the log tht i got just now for the 2nd bd drive that i tried burning a bd25. this is the drive i just updated the firmware on. I 10:06:21 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!I 10:06:21 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)I 10:06:21 Total Physical Memory: 8,125,620 KiB - Available: 6,416,236 KiBI 10:06:21 Initialising SPTI...I 10:06:21 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 10:06:21 -> Drive 1 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (I:) (SCSI)I 10:06:22 -> Drive 2 - Info: ATAPI iHBS212 2 HL05 (G:) (ATA)I 10:06:22 -> Drive 3 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.02-A0 (H:) (ATA)I 10:06:22 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 2 BD-REs!I 10:06:52 Operation Started!I 10:06:52 Building Image Tree...I 10:06:52 Calculating Totals...I 10:06:52 Preparing Image...I 10:06:52 Contents: 94 Files, 16 FoldersI 10:06:52 Content Type: BD VideoI 10:06:52 Data Type: MODE1/2048I 10:06:52 File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 10:06:52 Volume Label: [Not Configured]I 10:06:52 Size: 18,861,647,816 bytesI 10:06:52 Sectors: 9,209,851I 10:06:52 Image Size: 18,863,161,344 bytesI 10:06:52 Image Sectors: 9,210,528I 10:06:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00I 10:07:58 Operation Started!I 10:07:58 Building Image Tree...I 10:07:59 Calculating Totals...I 10:07:59 Preparing Image...I 10:07:59 Contents: 94 Files, 16 FoldersI 10:07:59 Content Type: BD VideoI 10:07:59 Data Type: MODE1/2048I 10:07:59 File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 10:07:59 Volume Label: AIRPLANE_II_THE_SEQUEL_v99I 10:07:59 Size: 18,861,647,816 bytesI 10:07:59 Sectors: 9,209,851I 10:07:59 Image Size: 18,863,161,344 bytesI 10:07:59 Image Sectors: 9,210,528I 10:08:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03I 10:08:01 Operation Started!I 10:08:01 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-I 10:08:01 Source File Sectors: 9,210,528 (MODE1/2048)I 10:08:01 Source File Size: 18,863,161,344 bytesI 10:08:01 Source File Volume Identifier: AIRPLANE_II_THE_SEQUEL_v99I 10:08:01 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 439050FD008C89DBI 10:08:01 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0I 10:08:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurnI 10:08:01 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 10:08:01 Destination Device: [2:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.02 (H:) (ATA)I 10:08:01 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000)I 10:08:01 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10xI 10:08:01 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392I 10:08:01 Write Mode: BDI 10:08:01 Write Type: DAOI 10:08:01 Write Speed: 4xI 10:08:01 Hardware Defect Management Active: NoI 10:08:01 BD-R Verify Not Required: YesI 10:08:01 Link Size: AutoI 10:08:01 Lock Volume: YesI 10:08:01 Test Mode: NoI 10:08:01 OPC: NoI 10:08:01 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 10:08:01 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 17,982 KB/s (4x)I 10:08:12 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 10:08:14 Writing LeadIn...I 10:08:16 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 9210527)I 10:08:16 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 9210527)W 10:22:41 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 7413888)W 10:22:48 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level...I 10:22:56 Writing Sectors...W 10:23:49 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 7818016)W 10:23:56 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level...I 10:24:07 Writing Sectors...W 10:24:57 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 8204544)W 10:25:02 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level...I 10:25:05 Writing Sectors...I 10:27:00 Synchronising Cache...I 10:27:04 Closing Track...I 10:27:05 Finalising Disc...I 10:27:17 Exporting Graph Data...I 10:27:17 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Michael\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH10LS30_1.02_MONDAY-DECEMBER-16-2013_10-08_AM_VERBAT-IMe-000_4x.ibgI 10:27:17 Export Successfully Completed!I 10:27:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:15I 10:27:17 Average Write Rate: 16,403 KiB/s (3.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,710 KiB/s (4.0x)I 10:27:17 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 10:27:27 Waiting for device to become ready...I 10:27:39 Device Ready!I 10:27:39 Operation Started!I 10:27:40 Source Device: [2:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH10LS30 1.02 (H:) (ATA)I 10:27:40 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMe-000)I 10:27:40 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 4.8xI 10:27:40 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 10xI 10:27:40 Source Media Sectors: 9,210,528I 10:27:40 Source Media Size: 18,863,161,344 bytesI 10:27:40 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-I 10:27:40 Image File Sectors: 9,210,528 (MODE1/2048)I 10:27:40 Image File Size: 18,863,161,344 bytesI 10:27:40 Image File Volume Identifier: AIRPLANE_II_THE_SEQUEL_v99I 10:27:40 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 439050FD008C89DBI 10:27:40 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0I 10:27:40 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurnI 10:27:40 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 10:27:40 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 10:27:41 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 4x, 4x - 4.8xI 10:27:41 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 9210527)I 10:27:41 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 9210527)I 10:49:40 Exporting Graph Data...I 10:49:40 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Michael\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH10LS30_1.02_MONDAY-DECEMBER-16-2013_10-08_AM_VERBAT-IMe-000_4x.ibgI 10:49:40 Export Successfully Completed!I 10:49:40 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:21:53I 10:49:40 Average Verify Rate: 14,051 KiB/s (3.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 19,270 KiB/s (4.4x)
MichaelM Posted December 16, 2013 Author Posted December 16, 2013 update to my situation. i burnt another bd50 on the drive that was causing the original problem and it showed the same message. however i burnt two bd25's without any problem messages on that same drive today. so i guess it is a bad last batch at the end of the spindle. its a spindle of 50 verbatim bd50gb. im gonna have to seek verbatim taiyo yuden's next time to avoid a bad batch. so any further help to my situation to both drives? i found a good drive i wanna buy but i was wondering whats the problem with the drive that says I 10:22:56 Writing Sectors...W 10:23:49 Waiting for buffers to recover... (LBA: 7818016)W 10:23:56 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... that was my drive that i updated firmware to today...do you think that maybe the reason why? i burnt a dvd using a different program and it seemed to burn ok on this drive. it was a verbatim btw
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 That buffer warning is because your machine (mainly the hdd) was too busy with other stuff to provide ImgBurn with a steady stream of data. It's taking 7 - 8 seconds to refill the 80MiB buffer... that isn't great performance for a hdd (it's awful).
MichaelM Posted December 16, 2013 Author Posted December 16, 2013 hi crap. i don't know what else was running that would do that. i mean i always try to make sure nothing's running before burning. and i don't surf the net while its burning either. the hdd that disc comes from is my backup drive for bds. are you saying that drive is failing? if not anything i can do to get it to work better? iike i said i burnt two bd25s earlier that were off that drive and no buffering messages appeared. however like i said it only seems to show the buffering message on the drive i updated the firmware to.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 How is that drive connected? Is it internal or external? I'm not saying it's failing, it's just slow for some reason. You can always increase the buffer in the Settings (on the I/O tab, Page 2). Try 256 MiB or something.
MichaelM Posted December 17, 2013 Author Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) the two bd drives are both internal. the hdd with the bds stored on them is internal. i tried the buffer increase to 256mb on my bd drive that i updated the firmware to and it burnt successfully without a buffer error. i burnt a bd50gb from my other hdd that has bds stored on it and it burnt fine with the blu burner ATAPI iHBS212 2 HL05 (the drive that i first reported having troubles with). with that same drive i was able to burn a bd25 earlier that was on the hdd that is full of bds stored on it. could a hdd that is going bad cause bad bluray burns? i know its sounding confusing but if you have any other advice id love to hear it. im out of bd50's now and i only have bd25's. but i don't have any bd25 backups right now that i can burn. im planning on buying some more bd50 blanks and a new burner sometime this week... P.S. Are the taiyo yuden bd-r dl's sold on ebay from japan good? i wasn't sure cause i thought the one that verbatim users recommend has verbatim in the name with taiyo yuden. im confused. can someone tell me the right brand to look for that is the best for bd-r dl's? Edited December 17, 2013 by MichaelM
MichaelM Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 hey lightning uk could you tell me if a hdd that is going bad cause bad bluray burns? i ran a scan (using Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for Windows) on the drive i use most for bd backups and it passed both tests. nothing seems to be wrong with it according to it. that drive is a internal hdd. my second question is what exact brand of taiyo yuden bd-r dl's do you recommend? i usually get my bd blanks off ebay and have seen them there. usually i just get the Verbatim brand. thanks in advance.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 No, your hdd makes no difference to burn quality. Either the source files can be read from it ok or they can't. Taiyo Yuden only made LTH discs last time I checked. They're the cheaper BD discs and should probably be avoided.
MichaelM Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 hey lightning uk got a new burner and it seems to be working good. its a LG WH14NS40. i noticed however on the last few burns i made that there is 2 inner circles on the data surface. there werent there before burning the disc. i still have to watch those discs to check they work ok but i wasn't sure if they would degrade over time because of those marks. the blanks im using are Verbatim Mitsubishi Kagaku Media BD-R DL from Japan. I didn't know where else to ask this. if this isnt the right place to ask this can you please suggest where it would be appropriate. Thanks in advance.
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