MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Hi, having been a big fan of ImgBurn for some time now I am very puzzled as to the problems I've been having recently I have backed up Wii games in the past without any problems at all, but recently I am experiencing the same error time after time. I am using Verbatim DVD-R'S, burning on a HP DVD RW AD-7561S ATA to be precise I am selecting the correct option to burn the ISO, selecting 4x speed and closing other programmes running when doing so. ImgBurn isn't flagging up any errors during the actual burn, but once the burn has completed I am only ending up with about 1/10 data actually burned on the disc. I know from past experience the data should literally fill the underside of the disc When I go to play the backup I am unable to. I have no other problems playing other backups that I have made in the past I have tested the actual burner by burning a DVD movie which was done successfully, adding to my confusion What am I doing wrong as I am lost? Any help would be very very much appreciated PS I am getting the warning about the Duplex Secure SPTD Driver come up when loading ImgBurn but have read online that this shouldn't cause an issue. I have also tried changing the way of writing to Incremental as suggested on here
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Please post the log of you burning + verifying such a disc... as per the pink box up the top
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Will do but the log doesn't seem to have much happening or anything as clear error. Have wasted quite a few discs but will use one more to hopefully get to the bottom of this. The fact that the burner done a movie fine has really stumped me or I'd be putting burner in bin
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Here is log from most recent attempt. Same result, only around 1/10 of data burned
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It's easier if you just copy + paste the text rather than posting a screenshot. You appear to have turned the Verify option off... I need to see the results of the verify process too. Put the disc back in the drive, go into Verify mode and compare it against that same image file. If it all comes back ok, there's nothing wrong with the burn. If your Wii can't read it, that's its problem I'm afraid. You shouldn't need to change the 'Write Type' to 'Incremental'. Put it back on 'DAO/SAO'.
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Put disc back in drive and just says disc not empty, no option to start verify although it is ticked
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 You're in Write mode, go into Verify mode. You're going to be doing this verify operation as a standalone task - as you're doing it after the fact. Leaving the 'Verify' checkbox ticked in 'Write' mode is enough to at least have the program verify the disc automatically next time you burn one.
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Started new burn incl verify before picking reply up. Will copy and paste soon as done
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Latest log, to me only some sectors are being burned.... I 19:27:18 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!I 19:27:18 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)I 19:27:18 Total Physical Memory: 3,074,996 KiB - Available: 1,394,844 KiBW 19:27:18 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.I 19:27:18 Initialising SPTI...I 19:27:18 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 19:27:19 -> Drive 1 - Info: hp DVD RW AD-7561S AH73 (D:) (SATA)I 19:27:19 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!I 19:28:32 Operation Started!I 19:28:32 Source File: C:\Users\windows 7\Downloads\[Wii]Mario_Kart[PAL][ESPALWII.com]\ISO\MarioKart(Compress).isoI 19:28:32 Source File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)I 19:28:32 Source File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytesI 19:28:32 Source File Volume Identifier: MarioKartWiiI 19:28:32 Source File File System(s): SpecialI 19:28:32 Destination Device: [1:0:0] hp DVD RW AD-7561S AH73 (D:) (SATA)I 19:28:32 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20)I 19:28:32 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8xI 19:28:32 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888I 19:28:32 Write Mode: DVDI 19:28:32 Write Type: DAOI 19:28:32 Write Speed: 4xI 19:28:32 Link Size: AutoI 19:28:32 Lock Volume: YesI 19:28:32 Test Mode: NoI 19:28:32 OPC: NoI 19:28:32 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 19:28:34 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)I 19:28:35 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 19:28:36 Writing LeadIn...I 19:29:20 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)I 19:29:20 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)I 19:45:36 Synchronising Cache...I 19:46:11 Exporting Graph Data...I 19:46:11 Graph Data File: C:\Users\windows 7\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7561S_AH73_21-JANUARY-2014_19-28_MCC_03RG20_4x.ibgI 19:46:11 Export Successfully Completed!I 19:46:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:38I 19:46:11 Average Write Rate: 4,707 KiB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,473 KiB/s (4.0x)I 19:46:11 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 19:46:24 Waiting for device to become ready...I 19:46:49 Device Ready!I 19:46:51 Operation Started!I 19:46:51 Source Device: [1:0:0] hp DVD RW AD-7561S AH73 (D:) (SATA)I 19:46:51 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20)I 19:46:51 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8xI 19:46:51 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8xI 19:46:51 Source Media Sectors: 2,294,912 (Track Path: PTP)I 19:46:51 Source Media Size: 4,699,979,776 bytesI 19:46:51 Image File: C:\Users\windows 7\Downloads\[Wii]Mario_Kart[PAL][ESPALWII.com]\ISO\MarioKart(Compress).isoI 19:46:51 Image File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)I 19:46:51 Image File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytesI 19:46:51 Image File Volume Identifier: MarioKartWiiI 19:46:51 Image File File System(s): SpecialI 19:46:51 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 19:46:52 Read Speed - Effective: 3.3x - 8xI 19:46:53 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)I 19:46:53 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)W 19:49:46 Failed to Read Sectors 176864 - 176895 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:49:51 Failed to Read Sector 176864 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:50:03 Retrying (1)...W 19:50:08 Retry Failed - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:50:10 Retrying (2)...W 19:50:15 Retry Failed - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:50:21 Failed to Read Sector 176864 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:50:26 Failed to Read Sector 176865 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 19:50:57 Failed to Read Sector 176866 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 19:50:59 Failed to Read Sector 176866 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 19:50:59 Failed to Verify Sectors!I 19:51:02 Exporting Graph Data...I 19:51:02 Graph Data File: C:\Users\windows 7\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7561S_AH73_21-JANUARY-2014_19-28_MCC_03RG20_4x.ibgI 19:51:02 Export Successfully Completed!E 19:51:02 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:08I 19:51:02 Average Verify Rate: 1,437 KiB/s (1.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 2,748 KiB/s (2.0x)
MM1978 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 ? you confused as I am I can't see it being the discs as they are genuine Verbatim and I have gone through 5/6 of them now. Fact movie also burned fine doesn't really point to media or burner being problem
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Now go through the other discs you've burnt that image to and see where they error out during verification. It shouldn't make a difference what you burn to the discs, it's not like the drive knows and can be selective as to what it burns successfully or not. As far as I'm concerned, your drive hasn't reported a single error during the write phase - so it doesn't think anything has gone wrong with the burn. If the disc is then unreadable, there's some issue between the drive and the media. Can I assume that you're saying you think it's only burning a bit of the disc because the colour of the dye isn't uniform over the entire surface? You're going to have to waste some more discs and do some more tests. Ideally I'd like to see a 'Discovery' mode burn + verify. That'll burn zeros to the entire disc and will soon tell us (me) if the issue is a general one or not.
MM1978 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 Hello again LIGHTENING, have had a busy few days hence not looking into this further. I have however now done a Discovery mode test as you suggested Here is the log from that test, again using a Verbatim DVD-R What has been burnt looks very similar to the amount burned before, around 1/10th of a normal Wii burn (from decent experience with backups) I 16:56:53 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2297887)I 17:13:33 Synchronising Cache...I 17:14:07 Exporting Graph Data...I 17:14:07 Graph Data File: C:\Users\windows 7\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7561S_AH73_25-JANUARY-2014_16-56_MCC_03RG20_4x.ibgI 17:14:07 Export Successfully Completed!I 17:14:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:01I 17:14:07 Average Write Rate: 4,595 KiB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,475 KiB/s (4.0x)I 17:14:07 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 17:14:20 Waiting for device to become ready...I 17:14:35 Device Ready!I 17:14:39 Operation Started!I 17:14:39 Source Device: [1:0:0] hp DVD RW AD-7561S AH73 (D:) (SATA)I 17:14:39 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20)I 17:14:39 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8xI 17:14:39 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8xI 17:14:39 Source Media Sectors: 2,297,888 (Track Path: PTP)I 17:14:39 Source Media Size: 4,706,074,624 bytesI 17:14:39 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==-I 17:14:39 Image File Sectors: 2,297,888 (MODE1/2048)I 17:14:39 Image File Size: 4,706,074,624 bytesI 17:14:39 Image File Volume Identifier: IMGBURN_DISCOVERY_IMAGEI 17:14:39 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 2297888_SECTORSI 17:14:39 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!I 17:14:39 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0I 17:14:39 Image File File System(s): ISO9660I 17:14:39 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 17:14:40 Read Speed - Effective: 3.3x - 8xI 17:14:40 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2297887)I 17:14:40 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2297887)W 17:14:52 Failed to Read Sectors 384 - 415 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:15:14 Failed to Read Sectors 11680 - 11711 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:15:28 Failed to Read Sectors 16160 - 16191 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:15:33 Failed to Read Sector 16160 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:15:56 Retrying (1)...W 17:16:01 Retry Failed - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:16:04 Failed to Read Sector 16160 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:16:12 Failed to Read Sectors 16912 - 16943 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 17:16:20 Failed to Read Sector 16928 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 17:16:22 Failed to Read Sector 16928 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 17:16:22 Failed to Verify Sectors!I 17:16:23 Exporting Graph Data...I 17:16:23 Graph Data File: C:\Users\windows 7\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7561S_AH73_25-JANUARY-2014_16-56_MCC_03RG20_4x.ibgI 17:16:23 Export Successfully Completed!E 17:16:23 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:01:43I 17:16:23 Average Verify Rate: 331 KiB/s (0.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 2,148 KiB/s (1.6x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Your drive has probably developed a fault. You could try cleaning it with a cleaning disc but you may just want to invest in a new one.
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